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Old 10-16-2008, 10:28 AM
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Hauppauge HD-PVR v1.1 drivers released

Hauppauge has released v1.1 of their HD-PVR drivers. You can get them here http://hauppauge.com/site/support/support_hdpvr.html.
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:03 AM
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sweet....any changes from the beta?
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:31 AM
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Great! I'll give this a spin this tomorrow when i have time. Now, we just need the final release of the new sage demux!
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:12 PM
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I got my HD-PVR last week and on day one it locked up a few times with the Beta drivers. I uninstalled and went with the drivers on the retail disk and haven't had an issue yet...
It this a stable version. I'd like to hear some real world feedback on this as people start to use this...
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:45 PM
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Seeing that the beta version was 1.0.3.53 I am assuming there is some difference in the released 1.1 version. Any changelogs?

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:29 PM
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Looks like the exact same drivers we saw in beta from my first glance. I'll check it out some more later this evening.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:07 PM
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I think I'll wait a week or so so you all can test this out.

My HD-PVR's work perfectly right now.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:59 PM
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I'm still getting horrid Dolby sound with the v1.1 driver as I was with the 1.0.53 driver. I suspect the only difference with this driver is that its been through WHQL.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:04 PM
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I've sent an email to Hauppauge support asking for them to verify if they are aware of sound issues with their 1.1 and 1.0.53 drivers and if they are working on a resolution. I'll update when I hear back.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:01 PM
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Hopefully I won't get thrashed for the double post, but now my comments are more appropriate for the 1.1 drivers thread. By way of background, I've been having troubles with the HD-PVR for some time.

First of all, I checked all the recordings from last night, still using the beta drivers. I had about ten recordings, and playing and jumping around there seemed to be no problems in any of them, except for the sound occasionally dropping out, which could easily be fixed by hitting the jump back or forward button a couple of times (in other words a temporary playback glitch, no prob. with the recording). Live TV though was still a mess.

Installed the 1.1 drivers (did not clear out the old ones first), and things are definitely better with live TV. Channel changing was working most of the time, with smooth playback and good audo sync maybe 7 out of ten times, after waiting 5-10 seconds for things to smooth out. Sometimes though audio sync is just flat off though or the video jerky... if I switched off the channel and then back though sometimes that would fix it, sometimes not.

Also, I'm not certain but I think things got worse the more I switched around. After 10 minutes of channel changing, I got a signal lost error and had to power cycle the HD-PVR to get it working again (restarting the HD100 by itself didn't do the trick).

I'm still wondering if the lost signal error is a software thing or a hardware failure. Maybe the constant channels changes are somehow stressing the HD-PVR and causing it to fail whereas the only occasional channel changes from recording do not cause a problem.

Although there are still problems, at least it's good enough for the moment to put the HD100 in my living room and see how it goes for a day or two of watching. Things need to get better from a live TV watching point of view for me to embrace the solution.

I wonder if Sage can make things better with additional firmware and software updates.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:58 PM
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Criscic: Now that you seem to have some decent recordings from the HD PVR, I have thought of a way to test the thruput of your system independant of Sage.

On your server, set up your drive where your TV recordings are stored as a shared network drive allowing users full access.

On your Core 2 client machine, map a drive letter to the shared drive.

On your Core 2 client machine, install TME from the cd that came with your HD PVR (there's a setup or install utility in the Arcsoft/TME folder on the cd)

On your Core 2 client machine, go to My Computer, open the network drive, open the folder with your recordings and right click on one of the .ts files. Choose 'Open With' and select Arcsoft TotalMedia Theater from the list (you might have to browse if TME isn't in the default list).

If everything plays properly thru TME then your issue is with the HD100 or your Sage or Client install. If playback is bad then your server isn't feeding the data reliably or your client isn't up to it.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:28 AM
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My first HD PVR had a failed IR sensor so I swapped it, the new one is a model D1 I think, the old was C2 so I assume the new one is, well, newer.

I also switched to the new driver 1.1 and it seems to lock up a lot more, of course this is after a windows reinstall and a million other changes, so it's not a A B comparison, but I frequently have to powercycle the HD PVR now and I never did before.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:57 AM
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My first HD PVR had a failed IR sensor so I swapped it, the new one is a model D1 I think, the old was C2 so I assume the new one is, well, newer.

I also switched to the new driver 1.1 and it seems to lock up a lot more, of course this is after a windows reinstall and a million other changes, so it's not a A B comparison, but I frequently have to powercycle the HD PVR now and I never did before.
same here...i may revert back, give up the 5.1 for some more stability.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:06 PM
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Criscic: Now that you seem to have some decent recordings from the HD PVR, I have thought of a way to test the thruput of your system independant of Sage.
Thanks for the thoughts. The recorded files (at least the first 10 I did a couple of nights ago with the beta 5.1 drivers) seemed near perfect, as they played back near perfect on the HD100 and reasonably ok on my client PC as well (that system never plays back perfectly smoothly, and sometimes the video gets and stays garbled when I seek around).

I was using my WHS server the whole time. So I think the server is ok. I am going to try using the client PC as a server (both Sage client and server are installed on that machine) as well to the HD100 to see if that's any different, but based on past experience I don't expect that to work any better than from my WHS server.

I wonder why the HD-PVR seems to have a lot more problems with live TV, including losing the signal and having ot power-cycle the HD-PVR. I hope Hauppauge is aware of that and working on it.
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:16 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts. The recorded files (at least the first 10 I did a couple of nights ago with the beta 5.1 drivers) seemed near perfect, as they played back near perfect on the HD100 and reasonably ok on my client PC as well (that system never plays back perfectly smoothly, and sometimes the video gets and stays garbled when I seek around).

I was using my WHS server the whole time. So I think the server is ok. I am going to try using the client PC as a server (both Sage client and server are installed on that machine) as well to the HD100 to see if that's any different, but based on past experience I don't expect that to work any better than from my WHS server.

I wonder why the HD-PVR seems to have a lot more problems with live TV, including losing the signal and having ot power-cycle the HD-PVR. I hope Hauppauge is aware of that and working on it.

agreed, recordings seem fine and hardly have problems. Live tv is another story! maybe it needs to be buffered longer before trying to play the stream
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:22 PM
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Wild curiosity, how are you guys going about installing these? Because every time I install them, they blue-screen my server, and I have to drag out a mouse/keyboard to get it going again. But after that, all is well.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:26 PM
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Wild curiosity, how are you guys going about installing these? Because every time I install them, they blue-screen my server, and I have to drag out a mouse/keyboard to get it going again. But after that, all is well.
I've had no problems installing new or old drivers.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:28 PM
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same here...i may revert back, give up the 5.1 for some more stability.
Arcsoft Video Decoder (DXVA dissabled) and AC3Filter (SPDIF) / Overlay works for me now, however playing back live tv I had to hit the left arrow once or twice to allow more buffer room.

I cannot get the arcsoft audio HD codec to stream to my SPDIF. I suspect the ATI HDMI audio is confusing it.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:30 PM
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I've had no problems installing new or old drivers.
They "install" fine, ie the HD PVR works fine after the process. Unfortunately for me, the process involves a "bluescreen event" (per the Server 2003 crash notification).
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:06 PM
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Did anyone look at the hardware device manager page in control panel after upgrading? I ran hwclear, then ran the installer on the 1.1 version. My driver version reports 1.0.5.1 after the upgrade. is this right?
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