Audio & Video not in sync w/HD PVR and HD100

[popechild]

Any new word on this from anyone in the know? I feel like we've been hearing "any day now" from Hauppauge for the last 2 weeks.

[zoop]

Originally Posted by Opus4

As far as I know, SageTV doesn't need samples for audio/video sync problems with HD-PVR recordings because it is an HD-PVR driver issue; possibly similar to this issue.

Wait for the next HD-PVR driver to see if that helps.

- Andy

is there a way to get older firmware for the HD extender? i made the mistake of upgrading to the latest firmware and now my HD recordings from my HD-PVR are stuttering, no doubt due to the problem referenced above.

thx

/jer

[Shield]

I think I'm totally happy now to have ditched the idea of multiple HD PVR's, multiple Directv receivers, and the HD-100. Not worth the hassle and these posts frighten me!

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by zoop

is there a way to get older firmware for the HD extender?

For info on using older firmware, see above & below this post.

You may run into other problems running old firmware, of course.

- Andy

[Chriscic]

Originally Posted by Shield

I think I'm totally happy now to have ditched the idea of multiple HD PVR's, multiple Directv receivers, and the HD-100. Not worth the hassle and these posts frighten me!

It's life as an early adopter, life on the bleeding edge! If you're not willing to futz around a lot and maybe/maybe not get it to work perfectly, then definitely hold out.

If the audio sync thing can just be fixed, think I'm going to be very happy with the HD-PVR to HD-100. Then it would be time to implement what you're talking about.

[thomaszoo]

I am the OP and although the issue has not been resolved, it is being worked on. Some times the sync is off so much it is almost unwatchable. But most of the time it is bearable, just irritating. I am really hoping the new driver fixes this and gives me my 5.1. But in the meantime, the PQ is definitely worth it.

Wayne

[sic0048]

I agree that it must be a HD-PVR issue. I was watching several recorded shows last night. One was a HDNet concert where the audio was way off. I couldn't tell exactly how much, but I would say close to two seconds. Then I watched several other recorded shows and the synch was much closer to being correct - perhaps a 1/10 of a second off. Obviously nothing changed in my set up between rcording the shows or watching them. So unless there was a synch issue with the HDNet channel (which I doubt), then the HD-PVR must insert this synch problem during the recording.

I just wish the new firmware would be released. They must have found some pretty glaring problems to delay it's release for so long. The beta testers have had it several weeks now and we were all lead to believe the beta test would be very short unless they experienced some problems.

[Taddeusz]

I don't think this delay problem is universal. I don't have a delay problem with any of the HD-PVR recordings I play on my HD100. Everything appears to be synced up properly.

[jerryt]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

I don't think this delay problem is universal. I don't have a delay problem with any of the HD-PVR recordings I play on my HD100. Everything appears to be synced up properly.

Maybe you could post how your set up is configured, because to the people who have the audio sync (Me), it does not seem possible that the problem is not accross the board effecting everyone. But it could be some dumb choice I made during setup.

VIP211 component to HD PVR, audio is composition (RCA plugs not optic). Sync is so bad on HD100 that it is unuseable.

@ Sic0048 here is a cut and paste of what one person is finding with the Beta drivers;
Thxkid wrote "well 5.1 driver is a bust, 3 main problems

1. video lockups and qlitches while capturing with it
2. audio is out of sysnc at 45-60 minutes of capture
3. the stupid arch software changes the 5.1DD audio back to 2.0 AC-3, there is no way at this time to just keep the oriqinal audio when using archsoft"

Also some reports of the 5.1 chip running hot with the Beta drivers. I would hold off on purchasing any HD PVR's until they work out these problems.

[Taddeusz]

My HD-PVR is connected to the server listed in my sig. It is connected to my SA 4240HD via component video and optical audio. The STB is set to output the native resolution of the channel and is, of course, set to output PCM audio.

My HD100 is connected to my TV through my Sony surround-sound receiver via s-video and optical audio.

I'm running SageTV 6.4.8 with the latest HD100 firmware.

[jerryt]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

It is connected to my SA 4240HD via component video and optical audio.

I am on Vista, maybe I should try connecting between the VIP211 and HD-PVR with an Optical cable? It has to be something that simple.

[popechild]

Originally Posted by jerryt

I am on Vista, maybe I should try connecting between the VIP211 and HD-PVR with an Optical cable? It has to be something that simple.

It's been confirmed a number of times that there is a sync problem with the current drivers. It may not manifest itself in everyone's setup, probably depending on how sensitive certain people are to it compared to others, and how "off" the source already is from certain people's cable/sat boxes and whether or not the added sync problem from the HD PVR puts it "over the edge" or not. But I wouldn't take the fact that some people don't notice a problem to mean that you should be able to get your setup so that you don't see a problem either. Obviously, there's a reason they've been saying there's a problem that will hopefully be addressed whenever they release this driver.

[jerryt]

Originally Posted by popechild

It may not manifest itself in everyone's setup, probably depending on how sensitive certain people are to it compared to others, and how "off" the source already is from certain people's cable/sat boxes and whether or not the added sync problem from the HD PVR puts it "over the edge" or not. But I wouldn't take the fact that some people don't notice a problem to mean that you should be able to get your setup so that you don't see a problem either.

I am just exploring options until we discover the fix, whether that is drivers or hardware.

Sensitive?? on my HD100 it is so bad that, trust me, no one could be that unsensitive as to not see the sync problem.

[Chriscic]

Originally Posted by jerryt

I am just exploring options until we discover the fix, whether that is drivers or hardware.

Sensitive?? on my HD100 it is so bad that, trust me, no one could be that unsensitive as to not see the sync problem.

Agree, the audio is often off by so much it's impossible not to notice. So please Popechild, no suggestions of overly sensitive users

[popechild]

Originally Posted by Chriscic

Agree, the audio is often off by so much it's impossible not to notice. So please Popechild, no suggestions of overly sensitive users

Who said I wasn't suggesting "under-sensitive" users? Trust me, I have the problem.

[Chriscic]

Originally Posted by jerryt

@ Sic0048 here is a cut and paste of what one person is finding with the Beta drivers;
Thxkid wrote "well 5.1 driver is a bust, 3 main problems

1. video lockups and qlitches while capturing with it
2. audio is out of sysnc at 45-60 minutes of capture
3. the stupid arch software changes the 5.1DD audio back to 2.0 AC-3, there is no way at this time to just keep the oriqinal audio when using archsoft"

Also some reports of the 5.1 chip running hot with the Beta drivers. I would hold off on purchasing any HD PVR's until they work out these problems.

Ugh, that's real bad. Especially the part about the 5.1 chip (guess there's a dedicated chip for that in the HD-PVR?) running hot. I'm not sure how you'd fix that, and a real pessimist would say Haupaauge would rather never release 5.1 drivers rather than do a recall. Without eventual 5.1, SageTV and HD-PVR does not equal a viable solution for me.

I guess at least I'll try the optical inputs rather than RCA, since that seems to work for at least someone. Come to think of it, I'm not even sure my Comcast box has optical output; hope it does.

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by Chriscic

I guess at least I'll try the optical inputs rather than RCA, since that seems to work for at least someone. Come to think of it, I'm not even sure my Comcast box has optical output; hope it does.

If it at least has a coaxial SPDIF out you can get a little box that turns a coax output into an optical one.

[jerryt]

Tried the optical connector between VIP211 and HD-PVR, disconnect stereo RCA plugs into HD-PVR, and ended up with no sound.

Tried changing settings in VIP211, and Arcsoft preview software, but no joy.

Any suggestion on where I enable the Optical in? Maybe in Sage?

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by jerryt

Tried the optical connector between VIP211 and HD-PVR, disconnect stereo RCA plugs into HD-PVR, and ended up with no sound.

Tried changing settings in VIP211, and Arcsoft preview software, but no joy.

Any suggestion on where I enable the Optical in? Maybe in Sage?

I believe you need to tell SageTV you're using the optical input.

[jerryt]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

I believe you need to tell SageTV you're using the optical input.

I can't find any place to tell Sage what audio to use. The only choice I see is "input type" "Composite".

Can someone dumb this up for me?