DirecTV on your PC

[LYU370]

Here's a couple more links:

http://hr20.dbstalk.com/images/ces2008/hdpc20_front.jpg

http://hr20.dbstalk.com/images/ces2008/hdpc20_back.jpg

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1375844

Sounds like the official announcement is supposed to be today at 4:00 EST

I was about to sign up with Dish, but just may hold off for a while to see what happens. Hope Sage will support it.

[bialio]

Chris Lanier (Windows Media Center Guru) jumped on the thread over at DBSTalk - he's got some interesting input on this thing.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=126

Bottom line speculation is that the Satelite media will be wrapped in WMDRM, rendering it useless for anything except Vista Media Center and it's extenders.

btl.

[Jesse]

Bottom line speculation is that the Satelite media will be wrapped in WMDRM, rendering it useless for anything except Vista Media Center and it's extenders.

btl.

I fear that this will be the case. Man, that is just gonna break my heart.

Jesse

[jpaddock3000]

Do you think that the higher ups at Sage might be able to talk with directv to find out if this system will work with their software? Maybe even buy their way into being able to use it. I'm willing to pay a little extra to make it so I can use this with Sage.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Jesse

I fear that this will be the case. Man, that is just gonna break my heart.

Jesse

agreed. Damn that M$...

Originally Posted by jpaddock3000

Do you think that the higher ups at Sage might be able to talk with directv to find out if this system will work with their software? Maybe even buy their way into being able to use it. I'm willing to pay a little extra to make it so I can use this with Sage.

I would guess SageTV would be willing - it's just dependant as to whether:
1. Microsoft has an exclusive deal with DirecTV (likely)
2. DirecTV has a deal worked out with thier content providers to "protect their content" (likely)
3. DirecTV is willing to work with smaller vendors such as SageTV (not sure)

I really hope a satellite tuner will come to SageTV and not just Microsoft, but I'm not going to get too excited until I see a reason to be hopeful.

[jphipps]

How about SageTV support for this...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/d...tuner-is-real/

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[Fluffdaddy]

Originally Posted by jphipps

How about SageTV support for this...

Knowing Soft and DirecTV the way I think I do..............I doubt it.

[Djc208]

Originally Posted by Fluffdaddy

Knowing Soft and DirecTV the way I think I do..............I doubt it.

Yea probably not, but I'd drop my cable in a hartbeat if it did.

[Jesse]

I talked with a friend of mine in senior management at DirecTV. Let's just say, I wouldn't expect anything serious to come of this soon... They are very focused on making their own DVR a media center, interlinking boxes, shared recording and programming the DVR's as a pool, etc...

So don't get too excited...

Posted by MikeSM on the AVS forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post12747307

Lets hope narflex comes through with component capture....

Jesse

[trini0]

Originally Posted by Jesse

Lets hope narflex comes through with component capture

Tru dat...

[CanadianEh]

Originally Posted by Jesse

Posted by MikeSM on the AVS forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post12747307

Lets hope narflex comes through with component capture....

Jesse

Component capture? Did I miss something??

[TBacker]

See this thread...

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29780

[jpaddock3000]

So I have another question about SageTV and Media Center then. I was just looking some stuff up and Microsoft uses the file format .dvr-ms. Well, Sage is able to view these files, from what I read in the sage.properties file. So why wouldn't we be able to view the content on the HDPC-20?

[mikesm]

Originally Posted by jpaddock3000

So I have another question about SageTV and Media Center then. I was just looking some stuff up and Microsoft uses the file format .dvr-ms. Well, Sage is able to view these files, from what I read in the sage.properties file. So why wouldn't we be able to view the content on the HDPC-20?

My understanding is that like the ocur, the hdpc20 tuner requires some form of windows drm on it's recordings, but since it's not really a product yet, the details are still sketchy. There is no technical issue with recording it in the clear, but I don't think the direcTV guys want to do that.

[morikaweb]

This seems ridiculously and needlessly complected compared to the systems they use in Europe. Why cant we simply use a cam/CI based DVB-S2 system in North America?

[ke6guj]

Originally Posted by morikaweb

This seems ridiculously and needlessly complected compared to the systems they use in Europe. Why cant we simply use a cam/CI based DVB-S2 system in North America?

Probably the same reason that we have multiple competing wireless telephone technologies such as CDMA and GSM. And add Blu-Ray/HD-DVD & DVD+R/DVD-R to the mix as well. Nobody can agree on a standard anymore.

HDTV has been a cluster since it was introduced with multiple resolutions and transmission types. Add DRM into the mix and the cable/satellite companies wanting to force you into using their DVR solutions, and you see the results.

[morikaweb]

Originally Posted by ke6guj

Probably the same reason that we have multiple competing wireless telephone technologies such as CDMA and GSM. And add Blu-Ray/HD-DVD & DVD+R/DVD-R to the mix as well. Nobody can agree on a standard anymore.

HDTV has been a cluster since it was introduced with multiple resolutions and transmission types. Add DRM into the mix and the cable/satellite companies wanting to force you into using their DVR solutions, and you see the results.

Grrr... Your right of course. We relay need the government to force these clowns to agree on standardized equipment/systems so the consumers are not screwed over like this.

But at least in Canada that is not going to happen until the CRTC is brought down. So in the mean time at least we have the component capture card :-)

[tmiranda]

We relay need the government to force these clowns to agree on standardized equipment/systems so the consumers are not screwed over like this.

Let the clowns fight it out in a free market. The clowns will screw us a lot less than the goverment.

[morikaweb]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Let the clowns fight it out in a free market. The clowns will screw us a lot less than the goverment.

Not so sure about that. An example I always give people is my experience with phone company's. I grew up in Saskatchewan where the phone company is a crown corp. That phone company is one of the most advanced in Canada, with cheap prices, good services, and good costumer support.

I then moved to Ontario where the phone company is bell. My phone bill tripled as soon as I got here, services available went down, quality of the service went down, and customer support is non exsistint.

My point is government control is not necessarily a bad thing. Sure you get bad apples like the CRTC but over all I would prefer some government control than simply having the corporations left to their own devices. And as far as the bad apples like the CRTC... We have no one to blame but our selves. After all we voted the government in.

[camus]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/d...tuner-is-real/

Lot more hd options starting to hit the market.

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