SageTV V6.1.3 Release Candidate is Available!!

[AngelofDeth]

Originally Posted by RAlfieri

Yes. I get that far and it stops as well.

I was about to ask the same thing... stopping at around 34.4MB. (tried both IE and Firefox)

[ptaylor]

Umm.... I also can't download the RC of Sage... ???

[sainswor99]

Originally Posted by salsbst

I think what he's saying is that you've been elected the "anti-beta-tester." Everything you like in the application must go.

No, actually I read it that they were going for a less geeky image.

I keep hearing "It's Magically Delicious!" in my head whenever I look at it.

[pvrpenguin]

Has anyone been able to download the latest RC release? I tried again this morning and it still stops around 34 MB.

[Lahr]

Someone must have kicked the server and got it going again!

[pawn]

I just installed this, first upgrade since version 5.04. My first impression is well done. No glitches I can see, and lots to dig into and play with.

Thanks.

[xj-boonie]

Just installed - looks great!!

One question: when Sage goes to sleep and the screen saver comes on, it says "untitled" at the bottom of the screen while the screen saver is going. How can I change that?

BTW - I'm running SageMC16x9 also, if that matters... * This is a function of that STV. Please ask about customizations in that section of the forum *

Mike

[archcommus]

If anybody is using this RC in Vista with DX10, can you tell me if 3D acceleration functions properly, and what video card and driver version you're using? Thanks.

[pawn]

OK: A couple of little nits....

- The buttons on the YouTube and Google Video menus are wider than the semi transparent frame behind them, resulting in parts of the buttons being discoloured (attached).

- Probably related to above: I use overlay and have to agree with the prevalent opinion about the solid bitmapped buttons on the context menu and the YouTube/Google Video menus. Not pretty and not consistent with the rest of the UI.

That's it so far.

[archcommus]

Originally Posted by pawn

OK: A couple of little nits....

- The buttons on the YouTube and Google Video menus are wider than the semi transparent frame behind them, resulting in parts of the buttons being discoloured (attached).

- Probably related to above: I use overlay and have to agree with the prevalent opinion about the solid bitmapped buttons on the context menu and the YouTube/Google Video menus. Not pretty and not consistent with the rest of the UI.

That's it so far.

I think it is in anyone's best interest who is using Overlay to try to figure out how to fix their issues with 3D acceleration so they can use that and VMR9 instead. The benefits and enhanced looks are numerous.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by archcommus

I think it is in anyone's best interest who is using Overlay to try to figure out how to fix their issues with 3D acceleration so they can use that and VMR9 instead. The benefits and enhanced looks are numerous.

It's not in my best Interest... I get a much better picture with overlay than I do with VMR also my cpu usage is much lower when using overlay. I prefer performance and picture quality over eye candy.

[pawn]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

It's not in my best Interest... I get a much better picture with overlay than I do with VMR also my cpu usage is much lower when using overlay. I prefer performance and picture quality over eye candy.

Amen. I've used all of overlay, VMR7 and VMR9 *extensively* over the last 4 or 5 years and consistently get a more stable system using overlay.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by pawn

- The buttons on the YouTube and Google Video menus are wider than the semi transparent frame behind them, resulting in parts of the buttons being discoloured (attached).

That's a strange one... if there is no filled background at all, the semi-transparent images for non-selected buttons are displayed incorrectly -- they are just a silver/gray gradient. That will have to be checked out... Actually, I suppose we just have to make sure there is a background of some sort behind them so they aren't directly on top of the video.

- Andy

[archcommus]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

It's not in my best Interest... I get a much better picture with overlay than I do with VMR also my cpu usage is much lower when using overlay. I prefer performance and picture quality over eye candy.

That's exactly why I said you should "try to figure out how to fix [your] issues with 3D acceleration." Because, if you experience a better picture and performance with Overlay, I would say you are having issues with VMR9. I too experimented with both extensively, and once I got other issues figured out VMR9 had absolutely no disadvantages to Overlay. Interface performs just as fast (once you disable menu fading, that never seems to work nice and smoothly for some reason) and the picture quality to me looks exactly the same. My CPU usage with Overlay is between 8-13%, with VMR9 10-15%, so that is completely negligible.

In the end, it's not a big deal, if you are fine with the appearance and performance of Overlay then great. I'm just saying that VMR9 definitely looks a lot nicer, and I know it's possible to use VMR9 and experience the same speed and picture as Overlay. There must be some variable making that not be the case for you.

[salsbst]

Originally Posted by archcommus

That's exactly why I said you should "try to figure out how to fix [your] issues with 3D acceleration." Because, if you experience a better picture and performance with Overlay, I would say you are having issues with VMR9. I too experimented with both extensively, and once I got other issues figured out VMR9 had absolutely no disadvantages to Overlay. Interface performs just as fast (once you disable menu fading, that never seems to work nice and smoothly for some reason) and the picture quality to me looks exactly the same. My CPU usage with Overlay is between 8-13%, with VMR9 10-15%, so that is completely negligible.

In the end, it's not a big deal, if you are fine with the appearance and performance of Overlay then great. I'm just saying that VMR9 definitely looks a lot nicer, and I know it's possible to use VMR9 and experience the same speed and picture as Overlay. There must be some variable making that not be the case for you.

You need to recalibrate your display when switching between overlay and VMR9. If your display is properly calibrated for one, you will experience deterioration by switching to the other until you recalibrate. There was some pretty hot and pretty technical debate on avsforum.com a while back as to which is better for film and video playback, from TV and DVD sources. In my opinion, the VMR9 crowd won that debate fairly handily, but it was nonetheless a very long debate.

[archcommus]

Originally Posted by salsbst

You need to recalibrate your display when switching between overlay and VMR9. If your display is properly calibrated for one, you will experience deterioration by switching to the other until you recalibrate. There was some pretty hot and pretty technical debate on avsforum.com a while back as to which is better for film and video playback, from TV and DVD sources. In my opinion, the VMR9 crowd won that debate fairly handily, but it was nonetheless a very long debate.

What do you mean by calibrate? I never change any settings when switching between Overlay and VMR9 and the picture looks exactly the same.

[NEOSG]

Originally Posted by Narflex

That hasn't been done yet which is why I said in my original post "(there will be more added after the first full release of V6.1)" I was referring to H.264 specifically. It *may* make it in there in the first full 6.1 release; and if not it'll be in a 6.1.x update shortly afterwards. We'll evaluate the state of this tomorrow and let you know. Sorry for the delay on this one.

Hi, any update on this.

Thank you

[pawn]

Another few items, likely intentional, but I'll mention them anyway:

- when I browse a folder in the imported video library, then go back to Sage's main menu, the next time I go to the video library, it defaults to displaying that last folder of videos. Very confusing (took me a minute to figure out why I couldn't see all of my video folders). In my opinion, Sage should default back to the full list of video folders if a user exits the video library.

- more on the video library: it would be nice if the folder icon wasn;t shown when there's only one video in a folder, like the way it used to be. Users like me, who spent endless hours organizing imported videos into separate folders so that cover art could be displayed get a raw deal with the new method that shows a tiny little cover art icon with a folder beside it.

Thanks.

[pawn]

Sorry to go on, but this one is serious:

I can't change channels right now. Sage says "...all encoders are in use by clients watching "Live" TV"

My wife is watching the Oscars and I'm watching a favourite recording. There are no other active clients and I have two tuners. I should be able to change channels. Server log attached (and I'll submit a formal bug report).

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by pawn

I can't change channels right now. Sage says "...all encoders are in use by clients watching "Live" TV"

My wife is watching the Oscars and I'm watching a favourite recording. There are no other active clients and I have two tuners. I should be able to change channels.

If your favorite is still in the process of being recorded, then no, you shouldn't be able to change channels (and Sage will report it as Live TV since it can't tell the difference).

If that's not the case, check System Information to see what the tuners are doing.