What's the issue with -15 vs -16 Hauppauge cards ? How to use -15 350 with -16 250 ?

[psxjunky]

I have been seeing the -15 version -16 of the Hauppauge cards mentioned in several threads, but haven't yet found a thread that clearly describes what the real issue with these is, and if it is a problem mixing cards of two types.

I understand that the -15 vs -16 refers to the version of the Connexant chip on the cards as in 23415 vs 23416. However, that's as much as I know so far. What does the Connexant chip do anyway ? I mean what is its function in the card ?

Anyway, I am planning to use a 350 with a 250 in the same system. The 350 is with the black heatsink so I am guessing this is the old -15 version. The 250 is the new card without the heatsink, and I can clearly see that it is the -16 version.

My real questions are --

1. Will I have a problem using both these cards in the same system ?

2. Which driver(s) should I use for best compatibility ?

3. Is there a recommended sequence of steps in installing drivers when using a mixture of the -15 and -16 cards ?


Thanks for any feedback !

[aglennon]

I spent a lot of time trying to get a -15 & -16 pvr 250 card working in the same system. What I found out was, my problems had nothing to do with having different cards. It was a compatibility problem with my MSI motherboard. I changed to a Gigabyte board and all my problems went away. I did not have to do anything special to get them working. I have been upgrading the drivers as they come out and have not had problems using any of them.

[psxjunky]

Thanks for the feedback, aglennon !

Which drivers did you use - the original Hauppauge ones or the ones from SHSPVR ? Also, did you install any other software from the original Hauppauge CDs ?

Finally, did you have to use two different drivers for the two cards, or did you find a single driver that works with both ?

[JasonJoel]

Same situation here.

Have one -15 and one -16.

Could not get both cards to work AT ALL on my VIA KT333 chipset based motherboard, but as soon as I tried the same two cards and same driver on one of my old crappy SIS based motherboards it worked perfectly.

Other people couldn't get it to work on SIS based motherboards, but could on VIA based notherboards. So go figure.

I used whatever the last released (non-beta) drivers were off of Hauppage's website. Same driver for both cards.

I've never bothered upgradng them ever since. Everything is working fine, I see no reason to muck with the drivers.

Jason

Originally posted by psxjunky
Thanks for the feedback, aglennon !

Which drivers did you use - the original Hauppauge ones or the ones from SHSPVR ? Also, did you install any other software from the original Hauppauge CDs ?

Finally, did you have to use two different drivers for the two cards, or did you find a single driver that works with both ?

[aglennon]

I had originally used the drivers that came on the CD. I have since upgraded several times and did not have a problem with any of the versions. I just let windows detect the HW and install the version that it saw fit. I did nothing special at all.

I installed the Ulead DVD software from the Hauppauge CD onto another PC. It is very basic but I can get things to DVD pretty easily.

[psxjunky]

So sounds like none of you used the drivers from SHSPVR, right ?

Does anyone know what's different between the drivers from Hauppauge and those from SHS ? What extra features, if any, do the ones from SHS provide ?

Also, since I will be installing both these cards in a brand new system, I would like to know what is the best sequence of steps to follow.

Which of the following sequences should I follow

- Install the 350
- boot up the system
- Say NO when Windows asks for the driver
- install the driver for 350 from the Hauppauge disc
- reboot if necessary
- shutdown the system
- install the 250
- boot up the system
- Say NO when Windows asks for the driver
- install the driver for 250 from the second Hauppauge disc
- reboot if necessary
- Install SageTV

- OR -

- Install the 350
- install the 250
- boot up the system
- Say NO when Windows asks for the driver
- install the driver for 350 from the Hauppauge disc
- install the driver for 250 from the second Hauppauge disc
- reboot if necessary
- Install SageTV



If netiher of these sequences are right, please advise what would be the right sequence.

Thanks !

[salsbst]

SHS provides drivers that are essentially leaked by Hauppauge to him. They are newer than what is anonymously downloadable from Hauppauge. Many people here use these newer drivers. For me (2 250s iTVC 16) they are more stable than the older ones and they fixed an audio problem.

[psxjunky]

Thanks salsbst !

Any comment on the which of the install sequences is better ?

Is it better to install both the 250 and the 350 at the same time and then install the drivers ? Or is it better to do them one by one (with a restart of Windows) in between ?

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by psxjunky
Any comment on the which of the install sequences is better ?

Is it better to install both the 250 and the 350 at the same time and then install the drivers ? Or is it better to do them one by one (with a restart of Windows) in between ?

One final attempt to see if anyone can comment on which installation sequence is better.

If anyone has done this before (using 350 and 250 in a new PC), please let me know which installation sequence you followed.

Thanks very much in advance !

[dkardatzke]

I would do one card at a time.

[mikejaner]

I would just wait till SageTv 2.0 comes out. I can't get my 350 and 250 to work in conjunction on the same system for more than a day without a crash. Heck, I can't even get my 250 in a networked computer to send a clean signal to my box with the 350 in it. It looks like I have a satellite in bad weather with bad blocks on the screen and frame freezes while the audio keeps going. Before I got my 350 my system was stable for weeks.
mikejaner

Oh yeah, the cards will still record when in the same system, it's just the output of the 350 and the Sage Interface that die, So, I know it's an issue, but will wait till 2.0 to see what happens.

[insomniac]

Same...but I did find that if I tap rewind after I change the channel, it works a little better in buffer.

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Originally posted by mikejaner
I would just wait till SageTv 2.0 comes out. I can't get my 350 and 250 to work in conjunction on the same system for more than a day without a crash. Heck, I can't even get my 250 in a networked computer to send a clean signal to my box with the 350 in it. It looks like I have a satellite in bad weather with bad blocks on the screen and frame freezes while the audio keeps going. Before I got my 350 my system was stable for weeks.
mikejaner

Oh yeah, the cards will still record when in the same system, it's just the output of the 350 and the Sage Interface that die, So, I know it's an issue, but will wait till 2.0 to see what happens.