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			Well, here I go......I am using only MVP's to use Sagetv in Australia on 4:3 TV's. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The original Haupage(?) software will fill the screens fully with no image distortion no matter what aspect ratio the picture is. (i.e cut the edges off 16:9, and 4:3 video fills the screen.) Sage somehow overrides this and will show 16:9 in its full width, with bars top and bottom. This is the way I like it! That said, In Australia (or Melborne at least) all content is transmitted as 16:9, with 4:3 video having black bars added at the station on the ends (left and right) so it fills the screen on a 16:9 tv. this means that in Sage on the MVP I get a 4:3 image in the centre of the screen surrounded by black bars on all four sides!. If there was a way to "toggle" this "override" on and off I would have exactly what I need as I love watching some of the older movies/shows that were made as 4:3. This is for "live TV", so the utils that can change the aspect ratio of files is really not of any use to me as I want a transparent solution for the wife (no computer involvment) Any thoughts? Ta, Fraser  | 
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			In the client, I'd set up another AR to zoom appropriately (i.e. on my client I have Fill set to zoom in those 4:3 programs with 4-sided borders - works a treat).  Unfortunately, you can't switch ARs easily on a MVP, so I don't believe it's possible there...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			If there is any way at all to switch ARs on an MVP, I'd like to know too  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	 
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			You can actually switch ARs on the MVP BUT it only just places the black bars without scaling the video..... so no the ARs are not applicable to the MVP.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I realize this is a very old thread, but.... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Is there still no way to zoom with an MVP? I really wish I could get rid of the black bars on all 4 sides of the video when watching on my old 4:3 TV. (Unfortunately, I think I know the anwer to my question.)  | 
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			Isn't that just a matter of setting the overlay settings? You know, the screen with the 4 corners that you can move around?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Do you mean the overscan settings?   I have not tried that but I imagine that would work somewhat but it would then be way over-zoomed for the menus/UI and regular 16:9 video (without black bars on the sides).  I would want to be able to switch it quickly and easily depending on what I'm watching.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	What I have a problem with is 16:9 video that have black bars on the sides. So when I watch stuff formated like this with my MVP on my old 4:3 TV, I get black bars on all four sides....kinda annoying. Sage is displaying the video correctly as it is broadcasted. It just doesn't look right on a 4:3 TV. I hear you can zoom on the HD-100, but that doesn't help me too much right now. Alfie  | 
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			There is a plugin for SageTV but I don't believe it works with the MVP.  This is because of the way the MVP deals with the video.  It's really a very limited device in that reguard.  I don't know that it can display anything outside of 4:3 or 16:9 480i
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Yes, I think I've used the plugin that you're refering to and it works pretty well for for my SageTV client running on a PC....but you're right, I don't think it works for the MVP.  I guess, like you said, the limitation is on the MVP.  It is what it is.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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