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Old 12-22-2006, 08:05 AM
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Here's one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned...

Now that Sage has the ability to convert videos to MPEG4, how about a way to do it automatically (like a setting in favorites)?
FYI: SageMC has auto-compression for favorites

Edit: tooooo slow for jds

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Old 12-22-2006, 08:27 AM
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My wish list in no particular order:
  • Ability to play a CD through SageTV
  • Ability to rip a CD through SageTV (or launch a batch file to accomplish this)
  • Ability to rip a DVD through SageTV (or launch a batch file to accomplish this)
  • Have SageTV pull in relevant meta data for imported music and videos from various sources (CDDB, IMDB)
  • Blade's multi-user features
  • Picture-in-picture (PIP,POP,or PNP)
  • More UI look-and-feel options, ie: "skins" or color selections
  • "Official" development and support of SageMC
  • More Online options (not sure, but news, sports, stocks, etc. comes to mind)
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Old 12-22-2006, 08:29 AM
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Well the Mac Mini is only an example. But you can probably build a mini PC with slightly better hardware and for less, probably not below $300, but it is a full PC after all, not just a playback device.
That's where silence becomes a huge factor. Building a dead quiet PC isn't cheap. I have one of the quietest desktop drives ever made according to SPCR and IMO it's almost too loud. I haven't priced any lately, but I'd guess you're still looking at $60-80 for a really quiet drive. Small form factor power supplies are also a problem. I have a silverstone case and my PS is relatively quiet until the fan ramps up. The only way I can see to silence my power supply is to replace it with something like the PICO ($50 I think) and an external power brick. Not exactly a cost effective solution. By the time you add a nice case, ram, video card, mobo, and cpu you're looking at a good bit of cash compared to a $200-250 extender. I know many people go with something like a shuttle, but I honestly doubt I'd be happy with the amount of noise they generate because I'm very touchy about sound coming from my HTPC.

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As for picture quality, is it that terrible with something like an nvidia 6 series?
I think the PQ is fine. For me any solution whether it's a HD extender or a mini pc it must be on par with what Nvidia offers. Anything less would be unacceptable.

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Old 12-22-2006, 09:08 AM
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But what if you don't like SageMC?

I like the fact that Sage provides a customizable interface, but I think there needs to be a concerted effort to add some of these cool features (like the extra unsupported features) into the core product.

I like the notion of having a conversion feature as a settings in Favorites.

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Old 12-22-2006, 09:32 AM
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But what if you don't like SageMC?

I like the fact that Sage provides a customizable interface, but I think there needs to be a concerted effort to add some of these cool features (like the extra unsupported features) into the core product.

I like the notion of having a conversion feature as a settings in Favorites.

Stu
Of course it would be desirable to have this functionality in the Sage core (I could rip out all the extra stuff needed for this in SageMC ). We were just trying to point out that this feature is already available if someone wants it right now.

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Old 12-22-2006, 09:42 AM
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Having far to many tv's/clients in my household it would be extremely cool to have multizone audio/video!
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:48 AM
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My wishlist:

- Built in support for internet radio. I really like the SlimPlayer plug-in (now that I figured out how to use it!) but would prefer if it were built-in.
Unfortunately, SlimPlayer is not an option for us MVP users.

PLEASE Sage, either provide for internet radio support, or allow plugins access to the Sage Media Player input stream so we can have internet radio on the Mvp!
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:49 AM
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:53 AM
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My wife and I have watched the show "Kidnapped" on NBC..about 1/2 way through the season, NBC decided to only show the remaining episodes via the NBC.com website.

I've noticed that ABC and Fox and CBS are starting to follow suit.

Thus, it would be nice if Sage could somehow be pointed to the website and pick up the video/audio feed and play / record them.

Looks like internet TV maybe on the way and we'll need an interface.

Still my number 1 request is an HD extender.

Second, and coming on fast is CD player support through Sage. My wife tried to play a Christmas CD last week and couldn't figure out why Sage didn't have an option to do it.

Thanks for the great product.

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Old 12-22-2006, 10:14 AM
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Thus, it would be nice if Sage could somehow be pointed to the website and pick up the video/audio feed and play / record them.
To me this is a much more useful feature than Google Video or YouTube.
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Old 12-22-2006, 10:56 AM
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I'd like to be able to physically move recordings from one drive to another. I'd like to be able to edit the recording details and info.
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-Sports mode for favorites. This means always record first scheduled airing, not later re-airing of the same game.
And +1 on this one, too. I don't want to wait until 1:00 a.m. to watch my Devils' games...

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Old 12-22-2006, 11:07 AM
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I'd like to be able to physically move recordings from one drive to another.
+ another one!

Actually having this be automated would be even better. Something like "automatically archive recorded shows older than X to this drive or path...". A good intermediate step would be to just change the functionality of the built-in "archive" function to relocate the file to a preset location.
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:24 AM
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Thus, it would be nice if Sage could somehow be pointed to the website and pick up the video/audio feed and play / record them.
Don't they purposely try to make this hard to do? Are there any solutions out there which let you grab and store one of these feeds instead of playing them live?
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:38 AM
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Don't they purposely try to make this hard to do? Are there any solutions out there which let you grab and store one of these feeds instead of playing them live?
A commercial product such as Sage would need to ask permission and workout some sort of arrangement rather than poaching the videos. Even if they had a legal right to do it without asking they'd be foolish to risk potential lawsuits or waste valuable development time creating something that may be rendered useless at any time by the websites making changes.
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:53 AM
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A commercial product such as Sage would need to ask permission and workout some sort of arrangement rather than poaching the videos.
On what are you basing that conclusion? What's "poaching videos"?

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Old 12-22-2006, 12:07 PM
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On what are you basing that conclusion? What's "poaching videos"?
From dictionary.com:

poach·ing
Pronunciation[poh-ching]
–noun

2. any encroachment on another's property, rights, ideas, or the like.

No offense, but if you can't understand what I'm basing my conclusion on either you know nothing about business or you're once again intentionally trying to bait me into an argument. So unless someone else is curious I'm not going to waste my time explaining it. Common sense should be enough for even the most simple of people to figure out why it wouldn't be a good idea.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:14 PM
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From dictionary.com:

poach·ing
Pronunciation[poh-ching]
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2. any encroachment on another's property, rights, ideas, or the like.

No offense, but if you can't understand what I'm basing my conclusion on either you know nothing about business or you're once again intentionally trying to bait me into an argument. So unless someone else is curious I'm not going to waste my time explaining it. Common sense should be enough for even the most simple of people to figure out why it wouldn't be a good idea.
No, I mean, on what are you basing your legal conclusions?

I know the definition of poaching. How is what's been described "poaching"?

I may know a little about these topics, btw.

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Old 12-22-2006, 12:21 PM
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A commercial product such as Sage would need to ask permission and workout some sort of arrangement rather than poaching the videos. Even if they had a legal right to do it without asking they'd be foolish to risk potential lawsuits or waste valuable development time creating something that may be rendered useless at any time by the websites making changes.
Jeez, blade. Merry Christmas to you too.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:40 PM
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Jeez, blade. Merry Christmas to you too.
Sigh......some of you sure are sensitive.

I've already said I would like to see the feature as well. If Sage has permission then they wouldn't have to worry about the sites trying to make it more difficult for them to do it. They might even make it easier for them and there wouldn't be the risk of the sites moving or changing things out of the blue that breaks the feature. My point is a company designing their product to do something is quite different than you or I doing it. Not only do they have to worry more about lawsuits, but also lost development time if for some reason the feature is rendered useless.

Why would a business run the risk of a lawsuit instead of seeking permission. There are far more reasons to seek permission than not. The fact Sage would be using the 3rd party sites to improve their product without permission would be enough to tick a lot of companies off.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how what I said should have offended anyone.

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Old 12-22-2006, 01:51 PM
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Sigh......some of you sure are sensitive.

I've already said I would like to see the feature as well. If Sage has permission then they wouldn't have to worry about the sites trying to make it more difficult for them to do it. For that matter they might make it easier for them and there wouldn't be the risk of the sites moving or changing things out of the blue that breaks the feature.

As I've already said it would also reduce the probability of potential lawsuits. Honestly does anyone think that there is a 100% chance that Sage would not get sued? Why would a business run the risk of a lawsuit instead of seeking permission. There are far more reasons to seek permission than there are to simply download videos from a 3rd party site to improve your product and earn more revenue. The fact Sage would be using their site to increase their revenue without permission would be enough to tick a lot of companies off.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how what I said should have offended anyone.
It's not what you said (which I agree with), nor was the content offensive to me. It's the fact that as of late, most of your posts are sounding like a grumpy old man. Anytime someone posts an idea that you disagree with, you immediately jump in with "this is why you are wrong; if you disagree with me, you must be trying to pick a fight".

I agree, many of the ideas posted here are impractical, and may have a number of issues that need to be worked out, but describing something as a "waste of time" when it's merely an idea is killing the creative buzz.

Don't harsh the mellow, man.

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