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Old 11-20-2006, 06:56 PM
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Kernel Streaming/Bitperfect SPDIF Output in Sagetv

Is it possible to bypass kmixer and resampling with sagetv? I don't particularly want to use a different package for music as it would be a pain for me to incorporate.

I'm thinking the new ac3filter might be worth a shot. I just started using my onboard soundmax analog devices 1986A sound with SPDIF to my receiver (instead of my AV-710) and the spec sheet on the ADL website suggests it supports 44.1khz output over spdif - so I should atleast be able to output 44.1khz directly. If I can get it to output 44.1khz, am I bypassing kmixer?

Or do I need kernel streaming support or something like ASIO4ALL? But neither will work in sagetv, is that correct?

As I understand it, vista is more geared towards doing this with less headaches or atleast the mixer is much better quality?

Thanks for any help.

(With my AV-710 I could get it to auto switch output 44.1-48khz sampling rates simply with the via drivers and the windows volume had no effect on spdif volume; so was I bypassing kmixer then?)
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:12 PM
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Reclock might be able to do it. I found out by accident once that reclock provided bit-perfect output in WMP.
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:30 PM
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Or do I need kernel streaming support or something like ASIO4ALL? But neither will work in sagetv, is that correct?
I am using my AV710 and ASIO4ALL within SageTV to play my FLAC music files (via Winamp plugin) bitperfect to my receiver, works fine. I control the volume directly with my receiver.

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Old 11-20-2006, 10:39 PM
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I am using my AV710 and ASIO4ALL within SageTV to play my FLAC music files (via Winamp plugin) bitperfect to my receiver, works fine. I control the volume directly with my receiver.

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Are you doing this in Sage 6beta? I tried to get this working but I'm getting these really long pauses between some tracks (like 5-10 seconds). I'm using an ASIO output plugin with Winamp 5.3, to a M-Audio Delta 410. I have gapless mode enabled in the output plugin, and everything works fine when using Winamp directly. It's only when using the Sage Winamp plugin that I have this issue. When I don't get the pause, I'm getting bit-perfect gapless playback, but the pause happens about 1/3 of the time making this setup too annoying to actually use.

I'm not familari with ASIO4ALL, I wonder if that's a different plugin from the one I'm using (which I got from an asian webpage written in Chinese I think).
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:16 PM
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I am using my AV710 and ASIO4ALL within SageTV to play my FLAC music files (via Winamp plugin) bitperfect to my receiver, works fine. I control the volume directly with my receiver.

Dirk

Any chance of a walk through on how you did this.

I had exactly the same problem as jkohn when I tried to use the winamp plugin. I posted on the forums but never could identify what was causing the problem. To skip the whole winamp stage entirely would be great.

I'm currently just playing lossless wma files in version 5 and just living with kmangler.
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:45 AM
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Any chance of a walk through on how you did this.

I had exactly the same problem as jkohn when I tried to use the winamp plugin. I posted on the forums but never could identify what was causing the problem. To skip the whole winamp stage entirely would be great.

I'm currently just playing lossless wma files in version 5 and just living with kmangler.
I have problems with ASIO4ALL driver with my Chaintech AV-710 too, and I ended up using Winamp Kernel Streaming to do trick.
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:25 PM
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I had just trouble with this back when I was running MCE I just rebuilt my client with a motherboard that had a realtek 882 codec on it. The driver just does the right thing. No winmap plugin etc... needed.

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Old 05-06-2007, 11:53 PM
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I had just trouble with this back when I was running MCE I just rebuilt my client with a motherboard that had a realtek 882 codec on it. The driver just does the right thing. No winmap plugin etc... needed.

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Are you able to play back DTS CD through a external decoder or DTS file from http://www.sr.se?

My onboard audio (SoundMax) is able to switch between 44K and 48K, but it is still not able to play back my DTS CD through Winamp or any other players.


Also what motherboard do you have?


Vincent
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:22 AM
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Are you able to play back DTS CD through a external decoder or DTS file from http://www.sr.se?

My onboard audio (SoundMax) is able to switch between 44K and 48K, but it is still not able to play back my DTS CD through Winamp or any other players.


Also what motherboard do you have?


Vincent
Yes, not a DTS CD, but DTS test files that I have downloaded. It plays those in all players just fine.

I have an Abit AT8 32X, a socket 939 motherboard. But most of the intel motherboards come with a realtek 88X HD codec, and by and large they all have the same features. Autoswitching of sampling rates to SPDIF is one of those things taht should just work, except for the fact that MS software is broken, and so the driver guys need to do more work to get it to work well.

This is all XP of course. Vista is COMPLETELY different.

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