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Old 01-13-2007, 06:57 PM
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I have VMR9 set ,,,don't know where to find FSE...I'm using purevideo, I have a 6200TC, Aspect is set to "fill"
AMD 3200+, 1 gb memory. And the HDHR is attached to the router.
FSE is on the advanced tab of detailed setup.
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:39 AM
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any little problems seem to be ironing themselves out....Picture looks great, recordings work great..etc..

I've found that recorded HD plays just fine across the MVP. But live HD TV is out of sync. The picture is fine and the sound is fine, just the sound is about 10 to 15 seconds ahead of the picture only in live HD TV across the MVP. Any way to fix this?

Also, this morning after recording my first shows and running Comskip monitor, I noticed that the time line did not have the "skip" blocks on it, as recordings normally do with Comskip. The EDL and txt files were created, just nothing showing on the timeline for HD recordings..Hopefull just a setting in Comskip to tell it to work with a .ts file.

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Old 01-14-2007, 06:44 AM
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Gary,
This may not be the ideal viewing scenario for you, but (temporarily!) change your output from VMR9 to overlay. At least then you'll see if the problems lie in the HDHomeRun or Sage. It's possible your PC is plenty fast enough to handle DVD's, but HD is a different story. Just make sure you're troubleshooting the right thing.

-Robert
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:09 AM
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I finally had a chance to set up my new HDHR yesterday. I have it all working and I actually got 27 unencrypted qam channels! Granted a few are shopping channels, but a few are also HD channels! Now I'm all set to start recording the new season of 24 in HD tonight. I am a happy camper.

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Old 01-14-2007, 11:19 AM
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Ok..one more new problem....not with the HDHR..but because I am now doing HD instead of SD.

I switched from S-video to Component Video this morning..specifically to
1080I....what was a pretty smooth picture became very jerky...I switched back to S-video and the video was fine for live TV in HD.

So, I would guess that its the either the 6200TC video card or the processor...(AMD 3200+)

I knew I was pushing the edge using the 6200TC for HD and I thought my processor would handle it...

Comments? which is more likely the problem?

Thanks,

Gary Ellis
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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I would look into purchasing a better video card for viewing HD content. I would not buy any less than a 7600GT.
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:41 PM
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Ok..one more new problem....not with the HDHR..but because I am now doing HD instead of SD.

I switched from S-video to Component Video this morning..specifically to
1080I....what was a pretty smooth picture became very jerky...I switched back to S-video and the video was fine for live TV in HD.

So, I would guess that its the either the 6200TC video card or the processor...(AMD 3200+)

I knew I was pushing the edge using the 6200TC for HD and I thought my processor would handle it...

Comments? which is more likely the problem?

Thanks,

Gary Ellis
It's the video card. I have a 6200 and am waiting for the new HD extender instead of buying a new video card.
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Old 01-14-2007, 04:36 PM
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yes,me too...I'll weigh the HD extender pricing / function against a new card pricing / function. Right now the HD programs played through S-video are outstanding...almost as good as at 1080i...

Since I just spent the money on the HDHR, I have to wait a couple of months before considering a new video card...Maybe the HD extender will be out by then.

Thanks,

Gary
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:44 PM
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I have always had problems with Nvidia NICs! Lets just say that I have had Time Warner out several times to fix a problem that a $10 NIC took care of. I got bad performance with my cable modem and it affected other PCs at the house. When hooked to a small switch, the PC would show connected and disconnected every few minutes.

The fix was putting another NIC in my PC and all of the issues went away.
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:58 PM
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I have always had problems with Nvidia NICs! Lets just say that I have had Time Warner out several times to fix a problem that a $10 NIC took care of.
Amen. Now that Intel is on top again with the Core2Duo, I won't need to stray from Intel chipsets or their CPU's again! Thank God. I'm $aving up for my next PC...

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PS. AMD fanboys keep to yourself.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:15 PM
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I'm having a problem with tuning HD channels with my HD Homerun.
I get good signal strength on all channels (Houston OTA), but most channels show NO Signal.

Basically I get one channel of ABC, one Channel of NBC and two channels of PBS.

And to make matters worse found out my analog reception on FOX is horrible right now (24 premiere). I'll have to catch that on ITunes.

Any idea why I'm getting no signal on most channels even though the HD Configuration shows a strong signal?

Help!
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Old 01-14-2007, 09:34 PM
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As much as I love my HDHomeRun, tuner0 doesn't seem to want to connect automatically with Sage when I reboot my HTPC.

I've posted about on the Silicondust forum here. http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2429

Anyone else having this issue?
Robert
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Old 01-14-2007, 10:21 PM
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As much as I love my HDHomeRun, tuner0 doesn't seem to want to connect automatically with Sage when I reboot my HTPC.

I've posted about on the Silicondust forum here. http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2429

Anyone else having this issue?
Robert
I was the one that posted just before you on the Silicondust forum. My issue is with tuner 1 and it is sporadic, maybe half the time when I reboot my PC. I too love my HDHomeRun but would be happiest if this little bug can be squashed. It didn't happen when I first got it so I am thinking it is a software or firmware induced problem that they can fix.

Wayne
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:15 AM
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I'm having a problem with tuning HD channels with my HD Homerun.
I get good signal strength on all channels (Houston OTA), but most channels show NO Signal.

Basically I get one channel of ABC, one Channel of NBC and two channels of PBS.

And to make matters worse found out my analog reception on FOX is horrible right now (24 premiere). I'll have to catch that on ITunes.

Any idea why I'm getting no signal on most channels even though the HD Configuration shows a strong signal?

Help!
i did do a scan for channels before and that didn't help.
But this morning, I finally upgraded to SageTV version 6. Readded the HD-Homerun, rescanned for channels and voila!

Now I just need some HD Extenders!
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Old 01-16-2007, 07:14 PM
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Well I thought I had all the problems worked out, but apparently not. When trying to tune a channel I get no signal a large part of the time. Also when rebooting the Sage Manager starts up before the service does, which requires me to VNC into the server, kill the manager, and then restart it.

I was really hoping to have everything running smooth before the new shows started back, but so far I've missed over half a dozen shows because of all the problems.

It's really frustrating since it seems to work for everyone else.
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:20 PM
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I was the one that posted just before you on the Silicondust forum. My issue is with tuner 1 and it is sporadic, maybe half the time when I reboot my PC. I too love my HDHomeRun but would be happiest if this little bug can be squashed. It didn't happen when I first got it so I am thinking it is a software or firmware induced problem that they can fix.

Wayne
If it turns out to be an order of execution issue, you can run a batch file from HKLM.. Run. In the batch file, place the HDHomeRun app first, then use the sleep utility to pause for a few seconds, then start the SageTV service with the command net start SageTV. (The SageTV service would have to be set to manual in the Services control panel.)
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:21 AM
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I have a story about how not to diagnose problems with HDHR and a direct (non-router) connection.

My system stopped working last night, getting a no signal message, and no information being sent through the network connection. I assumed it was an issue with a setting having changed in Magik (my DHCP server software), so started messing with that. Not knowing much about networking, I thought it had something to do with the "hardware lease" having expired at six days, and not renewed (I'd set it up last weekend so I was at the 6 day period). Another guess was that we'd been having power outages, and right before the problem was notice our UPS started acting up, so I thought perhaps something got messed up in the glitches.

Played and played and nothing. After about an hour I realized that 15 minutes before the power went off the first time, I disconnected the power and cable connection. I hadn't reconnected the cable! :headshake:

Once I discovered that I was an idiot, I could get the signal showing as uploading data to the computer through the network connection, but I couldn't get a signal. It was 2:00 a.m. or so at that point, so I went to bed. My guess on that, however, was that it might have been a cable issue--the signal being out.

Anyway, all working this morning.

The only good thing about this is I did learn how to run Magik as a service, so I can see how that works.
Well, I'm making a habit of being an idiot. About 10 minutes from the end of 24 the sound quit during a commercial. At first I thought it was just the station, but then I backed up to where we could hear things before, and it was also silent. I play audio through the stereo, so I tried turning up the TV, and that worked. I figured it was just a glitch that a reboot would cure.

Next day it still wasn't working. I tried messing with the audio settings in Sage's setup. Nothing.

Then I realized the receiver was set to the wrong input. Apparently my wife, one of the cats, or I hit the remote button and switched the input!

I'm not quite 50 yet. Somehow I have the feeling getting old won't be fun.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:21 AM
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... when rebooting the Sage Manager starts up before the service does, which requires me to VNC into the server, kill the manager, and then restart it....
Why do you have to kill the Sage Manager? Wouldn't you want the HDHR to be running before the Sage service?
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:42 AM
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Why do you have to kill the Sage Manager? Wouldn't you want the HDHR to be running before the Sage service?
Apparently not because I get an error message from the Sage manager upon rebooting. I kill it and restart and all is well until I reboot again. It may have nothing to do with starting up before the service, but something is wrong that I can't reboot the machine without the Sage manager giving me an error message. I never had this problem until yesterday and the only change I made was adding an ide controller card.

That is a major problem, but the even bigger problem is losing 5 minutes of at least one recording every night. I have no clue where to even begin troubleshooting.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:50 AM
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Apparently not because I get an error message from the Sage manager upon rebooting. I kill it and restart and all is well until I reboot again. It may have nothing to do with starting up before the service, but something is wrong that I can't reboot the machine without the Sage manager giving me an error message. I never had this problem until yesterday and the only change I made was adding an ide controller card.

That is a major problem, but the even bigger problem is losing 5 minutes of at least one recording every night. I have no clue where to even begin troubleshooting.
Is the HDHR Sage Manager running as an app (as opposed to as a service)? How is it being launched? There are ways to delay it a little bit -- it's quite possible that launching it prior to Sage is not the problem, but that something else isn't quite ready to run it.
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