Always tune channel bug?

[Mark SS]

I have the option to tune channels for every recording set and this does what it says on the tin. Annoyingly however, it also re-tunes the channel when watching live tv which causes a few seconds pause between each program. Not a disaster but its a WAF minus.

[Jackal24]

LiveTV is the same as recordings as far as Sage is concerned, so if you change a setting that affects one, it will affect the other.

[Mark SS]

Well yes, but my point is that it shouldn't behave the way its behaving now.

[reboot_this]

Mark

there is an option in the properties file labeled "mmc/always_tune_channel"... If this option is turned on it will "retune" (even to the same channel when you're watching live tv) between shows. This action is more noticable when using a set top box over an internal tuner in your sage box.

Reason: from what I remember in past threads, the folks at Sage included this option for those users that where having channel changing issues when using set top boxes (cable or satellite).

To further explain, say you set up two recordings (back to back) and those shows were on ch. 200. Sagetv would change the channel to 200 to record the first show, but if there was an issue with transmitting that channel change via a usb-uirt (for example) you would miss the first show because Sagetv would essentially record the wrong show... but with the "mmc/always_tune_channel" option in the properties file turned on, you increase your chances of maybe getting the second show properly recorded because Sagetv would "retune" again at the beginning of the second show.

You can turn the option off if you are not having any issues with channel changes. It's slightly annoying to me too but I leave it on for peace of mind that I have a 50/50 chance with each show recording as it should...

Hope this helps, heck I hope I explained about the right issue and it's not something else going on...

[Mark SS]

Originally Posted by reboot_this

Reason: from what I remember in past threads, the folks at Sage included this option for those users that where having channel changing issues when using set top boxes (cable or satellite).

That is the setting I'm referring to and I understand its purpose. My point however is that with this set SageTV retunes at the start of every program i.e. while watching live tv, not just for recordings. My suggestion is that it should only retune for a recording, not when watching livetv.

[jamjam]

From Sages point of view there is no difference between a recording and live TV.

I think this is one of the good things about Sage, it allows you to keep the whole program if you decide to record it half way through.

I'm sure MCE does not do this but only records form when you press the recoed button.

But back on topic,

As far as I know there are no other options to control this functionality. So if its set to always tune it will do it even if you are watching it live.

JJ

[Mark SS]

Originally Posted by jamjam

From Sages point of view there is no difference between a recording and live TV.

So nobody else agrees that it would make more sense for Sage to only tune for a scheduled recording?

[InvisiblePin]

To start off... yes, no stutter is better than a stutter.

My wife was watching live TV through our wireless Media MVP. When done she just turned off the TV, leaving Sage to record shows. I think what would happen is that each show would get recorded, and a few minutes after a show would end (and the next show is already being recorded) it would get deleted.

I'm thinking this means every show would have to be a separate MPEG file. If they weren't separate files, what a disaster it would be if someone left "Live TV" on all night. Certainly when considering the WAF, you have to consider the possibility that she'd do something you would never even consider, like leaving "Live TV" on for 3 days running.

If Sage could figure out a way to transition from one MPEG to another with no stutter, that would be ideal. But if I have to pick between a stutter or a mess if "Live TV" is left on for days, I'll pick the stutter.

[reboot_this]

Originally Posted by jamjam

From Sages point of view there is no difference between a recording and live TV.

This is true, there is absolutely no difference between the two... ANY video (that is not imported) created by sagetv is a recording... it doesn't matter if you just sat down to watch tv and tuned to something... everything is a recording, that is how Sagetv acts 24/7. Yes, with this, there are pros and cons... there are more pros to Sagetv, I think though.