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Old 05-16-2006, 07:22 PM
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3d acceleration makes UI slow and CPU usage...
An other 2.x to 5.02 upgrade question.
If I use the 3D acceleration option the Sage Ui becomes very slow. Is this expected?

Furthermore, I noticed an increase in CPU usage with Sage 5 independent from the 3D setting. It uses now more than 50%! Any thoughts?
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:03 PM
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What's your system? Sounds like you don't have a DX9 graphics card.
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:39 AM
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I have an ATI 9600. Is this a DX9 card?
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Old 05-17-2006, 10:06 AM
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Yeah, do you have the latest DX9 installed?
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Old 05-17-2006, 10:08 AM
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I'm having the same problem and did not have it before but I now use OVERLAY so my resources dropped from 60-90% down to 10.

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Old 05-17-2006, 05:21 PM
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Yes, I have the very latest DX9. I downloaded after having the new problems the latest DX9 and Java.


mike1961,
Do you have 3D acceleration switched on? Whenever I do that the Sage UI becomes unresponsive (slow). Did you change it to overlay in the video options?(default - overlay - DX9 choice)?
Do you have the hardware only disabled?
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Old 05-17-2006, 10:02 PM
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I've always had 3D acceleration on. But, Sage is not a problem as long as I'm in Overlay in the Detailed Setup, Video/Audio, Video Renderer = Overlay

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Yes, I have the very latest DX9. I downloaded after having the new problems the latest DX9 and Java.


mike1961,
Do you have 3D acceleration switched on? Whenever I do that the Sage UI becomes unresponsive (slow). Did you change it to overlay in the video options?(default - overlay - DX9 choice)?
Do you have the hardware only disabled?
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Old 05-18-2006, 06:17 PM
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When I switch from default to overaly I'm loosing the video in the Sage window on my control screen (secondary display). Why would that be?

Can we expect a fix for this 5x problem? All worked smooth on 2.x
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Old 05-18-2006, 06:22 PM
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If you don't have video on a secondary monitor for SageTV or SageTVClient, then you should look into updating your video card drivers or using a different decoder. Video can play perfectly fine on the secondary monitor using Overlay -- that's what I use all the time.

(The Placeshifter has an issue w/video on the secondary monitor at the moment, but I don't think that's part of the discussion here.)

Also, using 3D Acceleration can be slower on a secondary monitor because DirectX hardware acceleration is only on the primary monitor.

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Old 05-18-2006, 06:32 PM
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Well, I didn't upgrade my ATI 9600 driver for a while, since everything worked fine. I'm uisng powerstrip on the main display for DVD. How easy is it to upgrade the driver? anything to watch out for?
Is Catalyst 6.4 a "good" driver?
Do I get away upgrading the driver only:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...k_dd_31959.exe
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:22 PM
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I upgraded to the catalyst 6.4 driver (using the link from before).
No luck. With overlay still no video on the secondary screen.

The upgrade went rather easy. But I checked the driver version in the advanced tab: 8.241.000 (March 06). If I look in the driver details I find a lot of older 6.x files. Is this expected?
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Old 05-27-2006, 05:08 AM
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Any other ATI users out there that still have the problem?
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:57 PM
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Any other ATI users out there that still have the problem?

I have a Ati 9600XT and i get the same issue.. if you close sage and reopen it it runs fast then it gets slower and slower not sure why...

I have the newest drivers.
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Old 11-22-2006, 09:31 PM
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I have a Ati 9600XT and i get the same issue.. if you close sage and reopen it it runs fast then it gets slower and slower not sure why...

I have the newest drivers.
What version of Java are you running? The 1.5 versions have memory leaks that cause Sage to come to a crawl when using VMR9.
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Old 11-22-2006, 09:32 PM
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What version of Java are you running? The 1.5 versions have memory leaks that cause Sage to come to a crawl when using VMR9.

Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_09-b03)
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Old 11-22-2006, 09:47 PM
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Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_09-b03)
That may very well be your problem then.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:59 PM
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That may very well be your problem then.

well it's odd it only happens if I run it full Screen, but if I run sage in window mode in a small manner it's very fast.
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:44 AM
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well it's odd it only happens if I run it full Screen, but if I run sage in window mode in a small manner it's very fast.
I don't know if it is your problem or not. All I can tell you is that there is a well known memory leak with the v1.5 releases of java. If you do a search you'll find plenty of information about it. Both Sage and Sun have acknowledged the problem. I don't recall which versions it affects because I've always just stuck with the version Sage recommends using since I assume they're not testing with java versions known to have problems.
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:52 AM
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With my GeforceFX5200 and PureVideo I was having awful CPU usage until i switched OFF of Overlay and went to VMR9.

After doing that my cpu hangs around 1%

Odd.
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:49 PM
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With my GeforceFX5200 and PureVideo I was having awful CPU usage until i switched OFF of Overlay and went to VMR9.

After doing that my cpu hangs around 1%

Odd.

both run slow.
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