New XMLTV Import Tool

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by michaeldjcox

09-06-2009 21:50:21,579 Cannot parse Channels File

The java XML parser seems to choke on the Lineup.xml file (in the "GuideData" subfolder in the Importer's Config & Log directory).

Try to open this file in Internet Explorer to see if anything wrong is in there. The .Net XML parser may very well accept something the Java XML parser can refuse (some special character). It is possible that you added a channel recently and this one contains something special in its name.

Regards,
Stéphane.

[michaeldjcox]

Originally Posted by StephaneM

The java XML parser seems to choke on the Lineup.xml file (in the "GuideData" subfolder in the Importer's Config & Log directory).

Try to open this file in Internet Explorer to see if anything wrong is in there. The .Net XML parser may very well accept something the Java XML parser can refuse (some special character). It is possible that you added a channel recently and this one contains something special in its name.

Regards,
Stéphane.

Thanks I'll check that out.

In the meantime I have just uninstalled my importer version 2.0 and installed the latest version 4.0.

It doesn't seem to have remembered my lineups.

The xml files are still in the directory:

C:\Program Files\LM Gestion\SageTV XMLTV Importer

and the new installation is in:

C:\Program Files\LM Gestion\XMLTV Importer for SageTV

How can I restore my previous configuration please?

Regards,

Michael

[michaeldjcox]

Originally Posted by michaeldjcox

T
It doesn't seem to have remembered my lineups.

The xml files are still in the directory:

C:\Program Files\LM Gestion\SageTV XMLTV Importer

and the new installation is in:

C:\Program Files\LM Gestion\XMLTV Importer for SageTV

Fixed.

I uninstalled and reinstalled but quoting the old name for the installation directory.

The settings were then migrated.

Michael

[michaeldjcox]

Originally Posted by StephaneM

The java XML parser seems to choke on the Lineup.xml file (in the "GuideData" subfolder in the Importer's Config & Log directory).

Try to open this file in Internet Explorer to see if anything wrong is in there. The .Net XML parser may very well accept something the Java XML parser can refuse (some special character). It is possible that you added a channel recently and this one contains something special in its name.

Regards,
Stéphane.

The exception I get with the new version is

10-06-2009 10:00:08,218 Start EPG update for lineup n°1
10-06-2009 10:00:08,640 Reading Channels File
10-06-2009 10:00:09,078 Cannot parse Channels File
10-06-2009 10:00:09,078 Unexpected error for 'updateGuide'
java.lang.NullPointerException
at xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin.updateGuideEx(XMLTVImportPlugin.java:198)
at xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin.updateGuide(XMLTVImportPlugin.java:87)
at sage.ab.t(Unknown Source)
at sage.ay.d(Unknown Source)
at sage.a5.di(Unknown Source)
at sage.ab.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Is the exception with the new version of the importer.

The bit highlighted in red looks a bit suspect.

But I cannot see where it comes from.

I cannot find the GuideData file you mention with the new version.

Attached is all xml files in the config directory except "lookup.xml"

Another piece of information is that I recently had a meltdown and reinstalled sagetv as if first time. I then copied my SageTV properties, wiz.bin, the xmltv directory into the new installation before running it.

Michael

[michaeldjcox]

Originally Posted by michaeldjcox

The exception I get with the new version is

10-06-2009 10:00:08,218 Start EPG update for lineup n°1
10-06-2009 10:00:08,640 Reading Channels File
10-06-2009 10:00:09,078 Cannot parse Channels File
10-06-2009 10:00:09,078 Unexpected error for 'updateGuide'
java.lang.NullPointerException
at xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin.updateGuideEx(XMLTVImportPlugin.java:198)
at xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin.updateGuide(XMLTVImportPlugin.java:87)
at sage.ab.t(Unknown Source)
at sage.ay.d(Unknown Source)
at sage.a5.di(Unknown Source)
at sage.ab.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Is the exception with the new version of the importer.

The bit highlighted in red looks a bit suspect.

But I cannot see where it comes from.

I cannot find the GuideData file you mention with the new version.

Attached is all xml files in the config directory except "lookup.xml"

Another piece of information is that I recently had a meltdown and reinstalled sagetv as if first time. I then copied my SageTV properties, wiz.bin, the xmltv directory into the new installation before running it.

Michael

Ignore the above please.

Is now fixed.

I just ran an upgrade of EPG data and it all started working again.

The file you mention was regenerated in the GuideData directory.

Thanks,

Michael

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by michaeldjcox

I uninstalled and reinstalled but quoting the old name for the installation directory. The settings were then migrated.

Indeed. Settings cannot be migrated from a version older than 2.3 to version 4.0 (due to the path change).

[bjkiller]

Hi StephaneM,

this issue tested with donated version 4.0

i have few xmltv files that includes few different EPG (different providers).
few of xmltv files has same channels numbers, so there like 2 of channel of number 10 (in different xmltv files)
i want to create 2 separate lineup one with channels from one provider, and 2nd from channels from 2nd one.

when i go inside of created lineup and choice channels from specific XMLTV file, i do not see in "XMLTV data" listbox the corrent channel, i only see channels from 1st imported XMLTV file, but not from 2nd.

Please advice.

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by bjkiller

i have few xmltv files that includes few different EPG (different providers).
few of xmltv files has same channels numbers .../... when i go inside of created lineup and choice channels from specific XMLTV file, i do not see in "XMLTV data" listbox the corrent channel, i only see channels from 1st imported XMLTV file, but not from 2nd.

The Importer creates a global channel list, as if all your XMLTV files where merged. If channels in your different XMLTV files share the same XMLTV ID (that is <channel id="XMLTV ID">) they will be merged : channel ID must be unique as per XMLTV specifications :

Each channel has one id attribute, which must be unique and should
preferably be in the form suggested by RFC2838 (the 'broadcast'
element of the grammar in that RFC, in other words, a DNS-like name
but without any URI scheme)

Regards,
Stéphane.

[bjkiller]

Originally Posted by StephaneM

The Importer creates a global channel list, as if all your XMLTV files where merged. If channels in your different XMLTV files share the same XMLTV ID (that is <channel id="XMLTV ID">) they will be merged : channel ID must be unique as per XMLTV specifications :


Regards,
Stéphane.

from my expirience channel id is unique per provider.
like channel 1 in UK, it's different as channel 1 in France.

Мay be good idea to merge xmltv file name into channel?

like file yestv.xml = visible 10th channel will be yestv-10.
and in file platformahd.xml will be platformahd-10

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by bjkiller

from my expirience channel id is unique per provider.
like channel 1 in UK, it's different as channel 1 in France.

No it is a mistake to give channel number as channel ID. The channel ID identify the channel, whereas a channel number is the number for tuning this channel on a broadcast source.

For instance you have SciFi channel in France, this channel is broadcasted on Cable and Satellite. You also have SciFi channel in USA, it is broadcasted on Calbe and Satellite.

SciFi France and SciFi USA are two different channels, therefore, they must have a unique channel ID:

SciFi France = scifi.fr
SciFi USA = scifi.us

SciFi France can have two channel numbers : 101 on Cable, 17 on Satellite. It wouldn't be smart to use the channel number as an ID, because you would have two different channels 101 and 17, whereas it is really not needed (the programs are the same, airing time are the same). SciFi USA on cable would be channel 501, and 17 on satellite. Again if the number was used as an ID, it would imply that channel 17 is the same in France and USA (if you can of course receive both French and US stalletites) whereas it is not.

The XMLTV specification is very clear about this the RFC2838 should be followed.

You should contact the author grabber, so that it doesn't use channel numbers as channel ID (channel numbers can be given as display names instead)

Regards,
Stéphane.

[bjkiller]

thank you for the explanation.
I getting my XMLTVs direct from the dish, the software that generate them, uses channel number that appears in even information on the DVB stream. the channel names comes in different languages, encodings(that is very importat) from different providers, so it's really not good to use as reference. i took original mporg epgdvbfrom and fixed a bit, and added option "channelbase" that allow me separate same number channels from different providers.

I also have strange issue with xmltv, i have 2 lineups, and 2nd lineup (that include channels from 3 different xml files) it's disappears time to time from the lineup dialog. i just today did it, it's already disappears 3 times

what the issue can be?

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by bjkiller

I also have strange issue with xmltv, i have 2 lineups, and 2nd lineup (that include channels from 3 different xml files) it's disappears time to time from the lineup dialog.

Send me all the files in the Importer Config & Log folder, as well as your XMLTV files at lmgestion@hotmail.com and also try to describe what you are doing when the lineup disappears (for instance is it missing when you launch the Importer Gui, then go into lineups; or is it removed after you edit the lineups?)

Regards,
Stéphane.

[alfi33]

Can I use this tool to import custom data into the guide for a custom channel (which happens to be a baby monitor camera)?

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by alfi33

Can I use this tool to import custom data into the guide for a custom channel (which happens to be a baby monitor camera)?

Maybe, but it will be like using a canon to kill a fly ;-).

The XMLTV Importer is intended to use XMLTV data as the EPG for all lineups in SageTV.

For the BNC channel (Baby News Channel), I don't think you have a XMLTV file describing the shows airing on the channel. You would have to create one. This XMLTV file then could be used by the Importer to inject it in SageTV.

SageTV does allow native EPG and XMLTV EPG with some tricks:

1) You must set up native EPG first
2) Install a XMLTV plugin
3) Edit the properties file to maintain native EPG on your existing lineup
4) Import the XMLTV EPG

Once you have set up the XMLTV Plugin you have to uninstall it to be able to regain access to native EPG configuration (for SageTV the XMLTV Plugin is to be used as a replacement of the native EPG, that's why you loose native EPG configuration)

Regards,
Stéphane.

[alfi33]

Ah, ok....that makes sense. Using the XMLTV import tool for this job doesn't sound like a very efficient way to do what I want. Thanks for the explanation.

[reeven]

In Romania, Spain, Sueden, Hungary, Danemark we use for analog guide tv without set-top-box a guide that looks like this: http://www.lhsite.hu/tv/xmltvro.xml

When i import this xmltvro.xml in XMLTV FILE, it tells me that : XMLTV file parsing error(could not find file c:/xmltv/xmltv.dtd)

Could anyone help me?

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by reeven

When i import this xmltvro.xml in XMLTV FILE, it tells me that : XMLTV file parsing error(could not find file c:/xmltv/xmltv.dtd)

You'll have to download the missing DTD.

Regards,
Stéphane.

[reeven]

Yes, i found your faq on lm remote site.
After 3 hours my channels config are ok, i upload my config to you.
thank you.

[reeven]

My cable analog has one problem:

Channel 19, let's say, from 8 AM till 20.00 PM is Cartoon Network
After 20.oo PM is TCM Channel

How do i set the guide in this situation?

If i set Cartoon Network Guide i have guide until 20.00, after that nothing.

If i set ch 19 on both Cartoon and TCM it make me 2 tv programs in live tv, one with Cartoon Guide, other with TCM guide.

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by reeven

Channel 19, let's say, from 8 AM till 20.00 PM is Cartoon Network After 20.oo PM is TCM Channel.
How do i set the guide in this situation?

Either you found a XMLTV file with the correct guide data, or you just go with one TCM channel and one Cartoon Network channel, both having 19 as their channel numbers.

You'll have two channels in the guide, but both will be functionnal.

Regards,
Stéphane.