Pay per view titles in EPG?

[kevthor]

jkaisre: Any update on this? Are you going to go ahead and try to get it to work. Like I said I'm sure there are alot of people that would benefit from this, as long as the TITAN TV listing has First Run/Rerun info.

Thanks

[Grey_Goose]

Was there ever a resolution to this?

[kevthor]

Not that I know of. I wish it was resolved but its not. I have just lived with not having pay-per-view information.

[jdbrown]

What format and where is the EPG data stored within SageTV? Is it updateable or appendable if someone could extract the PPV info from TitanTV javscript file?

[kevthor]

**BUMP**

[Jeremy]

Bump...

I understand this issue completely, but there are a couple ways of adding the data I've been thinking of.

1. Intercepting the TCP traffic from SageTV to the EPG server and inserting Titan TV PPV data into the stream. (Likely the cleanest way.)

2. Decoding the EPG file and writing the data directly

3. Creating an add on scheduler that could read the PPV data and manually set up recording inside Sage.TV (likely the best bet)

The problem is that Sage.TV has to loosen their butts up and let the community build a solution outside of their coperate umbrella - while they can't do it themselves, they can help us implement a solution.

This single problem is making me lean more and more towards BeyondTV.

[insomniac]

DVB cards (w/ software) have the ability to read and parse PPV EPG data direct from stream. If somene who has any experience in access feels like writing a script to extract that data in XML format, we can have sage just import the guide data on a regular schedule....any takers?

[PGPfan]

I wonder if it might be possible to treat the PPV guide data as another 'tuner'. It could be told specifically to seek data from TitanTV, perhaps with a modification of the existing xmltv plugin.

Just thinking out loud, but it sucks that we know that the data IS available, we just can't use it.

-PGPfan

[Jeremy]

I still think the best bet is to intercept the data stream comming from sagetv to the EPG server and modify it directly, easily done through a host entry and some simple TCP/IP software. I've written stuff to redirect AS400 communications from local host over a secure tunner to a server then back down to the client's site.

Problem is that if SageTV wants to mess with us on this they could easily do that and we really need to get them involved in fixing this flaw in their software.

[insomniac]

FWIW, the guide data looks like untouched (just exported) from DVB stream:
<EIT>
<EID>3</EID>
<NIDSID>268697911</NIDSID>
<BUnixTime>1126315800</BUnixTime>
<EUnixTime>1126322400</EUnixTime>
<Lang>6647399</Lang>
<EventName>The Girl Next Door</EventName>
<ShortDescr></ShortDescr>
<ExtDescr>Movie. Emile Hirsch, Elisha Cuthbert, Timothy Olyphant. (2004) A high-school senior falls for a beautiful new neighbor, then learns she used to be a porn star. (CC) (Stereo)</ExtDescr>
</EIT>

This is the format that you need to meet in order for sage to import:

- <Display_x0020_EPG>
<EID>321</EID>
<NID>1006</NID>
<SID>248C</SID>
<Language>ENG</Language>
<StartTime>2005-09-27T15:00:00</StartTime>
<EndTime>2005-09-27T16:00:00</EndTime>
<EventName>Sesame Street</EventName>
- <ShortDescr>
- <![CDATA[
]]>
</ShortDescr>
- <ExtDescr>
- <![CDATA[ Family/Children. (2003) Ernie respects Bert's birthday plans for a quiet

day. (CC) (Stereo)
]]>
</ExtDescr>
</Display_x0020_EPG>

seems to me that we could just make a quick conversion and use the sage supported xmltv plugin.

food for thought...

I.

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by insomniac

FWIW, the guide data looks like untouched (just exported) from DVB stream:
<..snip..>

I'm assuming it's comming down Port 80 right? This looks actually easy, I already have software that monitors port 21 on a telnet session to see if a user goes into certain screens on a VAX system and capture what records they pull up. I can likely use the same code, the rest is all about cookies, logins, etc.

[insomniac]

this is actually captured and parsed from actual satellite stream into an access database. I then exported it into XML without any modifications. I have read up much on sat stream, but i would not think that there would be a specific port at all..

My thought is that anyone with DVB could pull this data and host it. I guess that the real problem is that this particular solution would only work for a very small amount of users and providers.

Originally Posted by Jeremy

I'm assuming it's comming down Port 80 right? This looks actually easy, I already have software that monitors port 21 on a telnet session to see if a user goes into certain screens on a VAX system and capture what records they pull up. I can likely use the same code, the rest is all about cookies, logins, etc.

[CarlG]

Virtual Remote for progdvb somehow gets the listings for the PPV's....

[insomniac]

they get them the same way Mytheatre does. They capture the listings direct from satellite stream

Originally Posted by CarlG

Virtual Remote for progdvb somehow gets the listings for the PPV's....