Does your Fusion Card studder?? - What's your hardware?

[jbuszkie]

Are you happy with your fusion setup? Do you have any studder issues? Can you please let me know what your hardware config is!

Ok.. I had a fusion 2 for a long time. I never really used it because it studdered alot. I had thought that it would be better with the fusion 5. Well I bought a fusion 5 lite and just got around to trying it. Bummer! It still studdered. The only way I got the F2 to not studder was to install XP as a "STANDARD PC" I guess this is all due to IRQ stuff.. (I tried all the slot swapping stuff) Now later on I reinstalled fresh XP w/SP2 and even as a "standard PC" I don't think I ever got the F2 to work. Now I was hoping that Sage would be able to use the hardware better... I tried the F5 last night and it was horrible studdering, no better than the fusion app. So I guess now my options are to try to get the "STANDARD PC" working again (maybe sticking with SP1) or replace my hardware.

Can you guys send me your working MB/graphics card/OS combo's that work in case I decide to go that route!

Right now I have a Asus A7N8X-Deluxe with a Spahire ATI radeon 9600 PRO ATLANTIS. With and AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton) running at 2.06GHz with 512MB ram.

Thanks,

Jim

[paulbeers]

I have my fusion5 Lite in the following:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (newcastle)
MSI K8T Neo-V (via 8t800 chipset)*
1 gigabyte DDR400
Gigabyte 6600 AGP w/ 256 mb of Vid ram (silent)
cyberlink video codec
direct3d for sound decoding.

Couple of thoughts:

It looks like you should have a powerful enough system to handle HDTV.
What Codecs do you have installed?
Do you have DMA turned on?
Are you hitting 100% cpu usage ever?

* I would not recommend using a via chipset due to past issues with large amounts of sustained transfer over PCI in the past. While I have no issues with this board, I didn't build this computer originally to do any sustained PCI transfers and consider myself lucky I am not having problems. It currently is just a test bed for Sage 3.0/4.0 until I upgrade my Sage box.

[paulbeers]

After thinking about this after the fact, I am really thinking there must be some issue with your system. Driver conflict or DMA not turned on or something to that affect. When I first received my Fusion5 Lite, I was able to run it in Dvico's software almost studder free, with the hardware mentioned in my previous post BUT using an old geforce4 MX440 w/ SDRam (i believe) @ 720P (on an LCD monitor). I really don't think it is hardware constraints, but maybe someone else has a different opinion.

[jbuszkie]

YEah DMA is turned on.
I have a bunch of codecs
sonic
nvidia
the powerDVD one etc....
Not near 100% untilization....

I went to the "standard PC" yesterday with SP2 and it was a little better, but it still was unusable. The thing I found out about sp2 and the standard PC was that I couldn't automatically turn it off. I would have to manually hit the power button. The SP1 standard PC, I believe, would let me turn off the PC

ARGH!! What other systems are out there?

Jim

[flashbacck]

I know this may sound like a dumb idea, but try taking out all your PCI cards, leave nothing but your video card and the Fusion. And try moving your fusion card to different PCI slots and see if you get stuttering

[jbuszkie]

Yeah.. Right now there are no other cards...

[flashbacck]

Did you try moving the card around the different slots?

Here's another question:
If you startup the Fusion software, what happens when you turn OFF hardware acceleration via the configuration panel?

[jbuszkie]

I tried a long time ago with the fusion 2... If I recall.. any slot I tried it was still assigned the same IRQ...
I guess I'll try again...

What do you mean turn off hardware acceleration mode?
Do you mean turning off DXVA? In non standard PC mode it was still studdery.. maybe worse.. in standard PC mode I think it also didn't make a difference.. Maybe just a bit better with DXVA...

Jim

[mayamaniac]

just curious, what is "Standard PC"?

[jbuszkie]

It a driver selection for the CPU (a different HAL) that doesn't use APIC or IRQ rerouting... Stuff like that...

Ufortunatly a handful of us with early fusions and studdering issues are all to familiar with it... But it doesn't fix my sage.. At least with SP2.

So I'm thinking of changing my hardware to a known setup that uses the fusion. That's why I'm asking for know good fusion configs!

Jim

[flashbacck]

hmm.. I was wondering about the DxVA thing, because I had a similar problem with stuttering for a while. But the stuttering wasn't present when I turned off DxVA, which indicated it wasn't a IRQ problem, but a video card issue.

Anyway, if you view how the IRQs are assigned via the Device Manager > View > Resources by type, is the Fusion sharing an IRQ w/ anything? You could try removing whatever device is sharing a similar IRQ.