Possible to play .mov in sage?

Wheemer · #1 08-13-2005, 12:30 AM

I download a few amateur shows, I'm sure some of you are aware of, such as Systm, CommandN, FromtheShadows, etc. One of them is the Diggnation weekly videocast, and they only offer it in .mov. I watch all these shows in sage with great results, except the .mov, which takes a while to convert to .avi.

So if it's possible to play them straight in sage, that would be great. If not, can someone recommend an easy, quick conversion program to go to .avi or .wmv?

Thanks!

aperry · #2 08-13-2005, 11:39 PM

I'm able to play .mov files in Sage. I've got the two Seinfeld Superman mini-movies that are in that format, and they play fine... You do have Quicktime installed, right?

Wheemer · #3 08-14-2005, 12:50 AM

I keep getting "sage.PlaybackException: ERROR (-4,0 x80040255)"

So it doesn't seem to want to work...

dvd_maniac · #4 08-14-2005, 07:17 AM

Could you check the file to see if it is QuickTime H.264 file? If it is, then I do not think you are going to get it to work in Sage.
If that is the case, you can do what I do and install a custom STV (Or Version 3 Beta I beleive) to give you external video player support. Then you can set it up to open quicktime, WMP or whatever you would like to play them with.

I use Nero Digital to encode my DVDs into mp4 format. I can get the ASP version to play in Sage but not the newer and better AVC version, so I use ShowTime as an external player along with Cayar's STV v17.

Hope this helps out...

Wheemer · #5 08-14-2005, 01:29 PM

I believe it is .h264, how do I tell?

I am using the 3.0.7 beta, I wasn't aware it supported external players...

What's my next step?

dvd_maniac · #6 08-14-2005, 04:44 PM

I haven't tried the betas yet but I actually think it is a plug-in
read about it here.

stanger89 · #7 08-14-2005, 04:56 PM

What you linked isn't a plugin itself, it's the API for creating a plugin.

Wheemer · #8 08-14-2005, 06:10 PM

I was thining that... I don't really understand why sage can play anything you've got a decoder installed for. Like windows media player...

stanger89 · #9 08-14-2005, 08:50 PM

WMP can't play everything. ie in general it can't play Quicktime or Real* files. (Granted I don't know how quicktime alternative or real alternative work). The reason is because QT/Real don't use the normal directshow playback path, and don't (normally) provide dshow splitters/filters for them. Sage should be able to play anything that plays in WMP*

*WMV is a bit tricky because it uses a combined filesource/splitter which is different from most file types which use a standard file source and then a container-specific splitter.

Wheemer · #10 08-15-2005, 04:49 AM

I was trying it with quicktime alternative... it installs a directshow option.

dvd_maniac · #11 08-15-2005, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Sage should be able to play anything that plays in WMP*

I can play my Nero MP4 (AVC/H.264) files in WMP but not in Sage.

stanger89 · #12 08-15-2005, 07:51 AM

Note the *, mp4 is much like WMV in that it doesnt' use the standard dshow architecture. If you could find an MP4 splitter filter, it would probably work.

RedCoat999 · #13 08-20-2005, 07:24 AM

How do you get the quicktime movies to show up in the Videos folder in the first place???

Wheemer · #14 08-20-2005, 09:10 AM

Just add .mov to the string of recognized extentions in your properties file.

Wheemer · #15 08-20-2005, 09:42 AM

Since I can't get these mov files to play in Sage, I've been attempting to convert them. I've gone through a few program, that convert to divx/xvid, without and good results.

What do you guys recommend to accomplish this?

eobiont · #16 08-20-2005, 09:32 PM

.MOV is not a compression per se, but rather a wrapper. .MOV format is a QuickTime encapsulation. So a .MOV file might be DV, mpeg-4, Sorenson3, Cinepak, or any number of other compressions. The QuickTime format is just a wrapper. You would still need the proper codec installed to both decode whatever format the QT .mov file was encoded in and antoehr codec to encode to whatever you want for your target comression. QuickTime is not a codec.

I am pretty sure Apple sells a version of QuickTime Pro for Windows (~$30). This program would be able to translate among any number of compression formats. You open a video in QT player and do a save as into the compression format you want to use.

I'm sure there are also free alternatives.

mightyt · #17 08-21-2005, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheemer

If not, can someone recommend an easy, quick conversion program to go to .avi or .wmv?

Thanks!

I just had this need ... My son's friend had a family video that he wanted to burn and play on his DVD. Problem was it was edited on a Mac, left in file format .MOV format and burned on a CD ... Great for playing on a PC, but he wanted to play it on his DVD Player and couldn't burn it to a DVD on his PC ... I just kicked off my Roxio and converted it to AVI (could have converted to MPEG as well) then burned him a SVCD ...

So ... all that to say ... If you have access to Roxio you can convert the MOV file.

T.

RedCoat999 · #18 08-24-2005, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheemer

Just add .mov to the string of recognized extentions in your properties file.

I think I did this after finding a line with .avi, .mpg, .divx etc and added .mov

But still nothing. I made sure I added the right directory, and rescanned, and restarted, and rescanned, but nothing.

Wheemer · #19 08-24-2005, 06:35 AM

are you sure that sage and sage service were completely shut down before you edited the property file? These setting won't stick if not.

Ryokurin · #20 08-24-2005, 09:14 PM

I didnt realize it could do this. Now if I can just get it to refresh and remove old items when it does I can use Sage exclusively.

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