Utility: ShowAnalyzer Beta

[Jere_Jones]

The only way that any service can interact with the desktop (e.g. put an icon in the taskbar) is if it running as LocalSystem and "Allow service to interact with desktop on".

Running a service as a user logs the service on as the user. Then when you log on as the user, the user is logged on twice with two different Security ID's. Each desktop is associated with a SID and only processes with that SID can write to the desktop. Sorry. There is a microsoft article on it somewhere but I can't seem to find it.

Jere

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by bcjenkins

Hi Jere,

I am running into an issue with SA where I can't get the icon to show in my taskbar. I am assuming it is because I have two simultaneous user sessions running and it is popping to the first one.

I setup dirmon2 to run as a service using a specific use which logs on solely via terminal session in hopes that the icon would show in the task bar. It doesn't seem to.

Included is the Dirmon2 Config:

The password for the webserver is unencrypted in the SA config. Can this be changed to the same as DirMon2?

Think I found our answer here. It was for me anyway.

BobP.

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

The only way that any service can interact with the desktop (e.g. put an icon in the taskbar) is if it running as LocalSystem and "Allow service to interact with desktop on".

Running a service as a user logs the service on as the user. Then when you log on as the user, the user is logged on twice with two different Security ID's. Each desktop is associated with a SID and only processes with that SID can write to the desktop. Sorry. There is a microsoft article on it somewhere but I can't seem to find it.

Jere

Okay, I get that part. However, when I had the option set up to log on as LocalSystem, it was not putting the icon on the taskbar of my TS users. I am not sure it put one on the TV either due to overscan.

Is it supposed to put it on every taskbar? Or just the task bar of 1 user? Is there a way to view the current SA progress without refreshing a text document?

TIA

B

[bcjenkins]

Hi Jere,

I am deleting shows as soon as they are done, hope this makes sense, unless I want them recorded. This seems to be creating issues with SA. For instance, this morning I had 2 instances of SA running (which is the max I set) but not processing anything. According to Dirmon2, they were working on files which were no longer there.

Log files attached

TIA

B

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by bcjenkins

Okay, I get that part. However, when I had the option set up to log on as LocalSystem, it was not putting the icon on the taskbar of my TS users. I am not sure it put one on the TV either due to overscan.

Is it supposed to put it on every taskbar? Or just the task bar of 1 user? Is there a way to view the current SA progress without refreshing a text document?

TIA

B

Don't know if your setup is similar to mine but will describe it. I am runing SA on a partially headless SageTV server. I remote desktop in to configure because it uses fewer resources and is faster than RealVNC. I now get an icon in the system tray and on screen (with LocalSystem) but that is only for the logged in user on the SageTV server - I probably shouldn't auto login but I do have a KVM and monitor and keyboard to share between the servers so I sometimes configure them from a real login. Anyway when I RealVNC into the server with SA on it I see the system tray icon and the SA window. But when I remote desktop in I do not see them.

Hope my rambling helps.
BobP.

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by bcjenkins

Is it supposed to put it on every taskbar? Or just the task bar of 1 user?

I don't know. I think it only puts it on the desktop that is up when SA starts, since that is the only time that the icon is created.

But I could be completely off. I don't even know where to point you for more information. Sorry...

Originally Posted by bcjenkins

Is there a way to view the current SA progress without refreshing a text document?

As of now, no.

Jere

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by bcjenkins

I am deleting shows as soon as they are done, hope this makes sense, unless I want them recorded. This seems to be creating issues with SA. For instance, this morning I had 2 instances of SA running (which is the max I set) but not processing anything. According to Dirmon2, they were working on files which were no longer there.

Sure, makes sense. How much CPU were they using?

Jere

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by BobPhoenix

Don't know if your setup is similar to mine but will describe it. I am runing SA on a partially headless SageTV server. I remote desktop in to configure because it uses fewer resources and is faster than RealVNC. I now get an icon in the system tray and on screen (with LocalSystem) but that is only for the logged in user on the SageTV server - I probably shouldn't auto login but I do have a KVM and monitor and keyboard to share between the servers so I sometimes configure them from a real login. Anyway when I RealVNC into the server with SA on it I see the system tray icon and the SA window. But when I remote desktop in I do not see them.

Hope my rambling helps.
BobP.

My SageTV server is only connected to my RPTV. All admin is done through RDP (faster than VNC) The server is set to logon automatically to a user in order to watch TV. The desktop is left at 1920x1080i with no overscan correction done by the video drivers. I use SageTV's overscan correction to display the menus and fit the video playback within the actual viewing area of the screen.

This works very vell for me, but the drawback is that I cannot see any of the taskbar. I don't have VNC loaded, nor do I want to. I assume they are showing there, but not in the TS client when I am logged on to that. In essence, we have a very similar setup.

I have been using SageTV for about 10 months now and am just starting to become interested in commercial detection as I understand it is much improved for HD content. I am noticing some minor issues with SA and would like to be able to view progress from my TS session.

As of right now with the latest version of SA, it does not seem to be closing out correctly. I turned on the kill switch in Dirmon2 and set the timeframe to 6 hours. It will eventually close itself out..

[geogecko]

I'm getting consistant hang ups with 7.10. I've installed it 3 times now, making sure no process were running, and with DM2 stopped. It doesn't appear to matter if the show is SD or HD material.

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by geogecko

I'm getting consistant hang ups with 7.10. I've installed it 3 times now, making sure no process were running, and with DM2 stopped. It doesn't appear to matter if the show is SD or HD material.

What do you mean by hang ups?

Jere

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

What do you mean by hang ups?

Jere

I think this is the same as I was seeing and as mentioned above. According to the log the file finishes, but SA does not terminate. If there is any data I can provide, please let me know. I have downgraded to 0.7.9 in the meantime. If it matters I did an upgrade instead of an uninstall and reinstall of the utility.

B

[Jere_Jones]

When SA is running, right click on the tray icon. Is there a check mark by "Close when finished"?

Jere

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

When SA is running, right click on the tray icon. Is there a check mark by "Close when finished"?

Jere

Ahh.. There's the rub, I can't see the tray on my TV due to overscan. If I could get it to show up in a RDP session, mo problem.

B

[Jere_Jones]

Can anyone having this problem confirm or deny the check mark in question?

Jere

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

Can anyone having this problem confirm or deny the check mark in question?

Jere

LOL, I don't even see a tray icon. Is it in the SA configuration? It's been so long, Jere!

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by geogecko

LOL, I don't even see a tray icon. Is it in the SA configuration? It's been so long, Jere!

Ah, found them. Yes, the "Close when done" item is checked.

I'm running a show right now, to get a log, and see if I get anything...

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by geogecko

Ah, found them. Yes, the "Close when done" item is checked.

I'm running a show right now, to get a log, and see if I get anything...

Umm...okay. Well, since "Close when done" was checked, I guess this time it actually closed, because the log window disappeared, and I don't see a process running anymore.

I'm going to try and set the options back to what they were (invisible mode, no log, and no icon), and see what happens this time...

[geogecko]

Jere.

I did another test. I set "Invisible Mode" to "No," and reran the test. Guess what? It appears that the "Invisible Mode" setting is overiding the "Close when done" setting, and making that setting set to "No," even though it's set as "Yes" in the configuration.

Seems like that's the issue.

So, to clarify, if I set "Invisible Mode" to "No," then SA does not hang up.

[Jere_Jones]

0.7.11 - 17 August 2006
- Fixed "SA won't close when invisible mode is turned on".

Thanks geogecko! Your help let me repro the problem and if I can repro then I can fix.

Jere

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

0.7.11 - 17 August 2006
- Fixed "SA won't close when invisible mode is turned on".

Thanks geogecko! Your help let me repro the problem and if I can repro then I can fix.

Jere

Thank you, sir! Looking forward to being invisible again. Once the problem was determined, I just deleted all my edl files, since it's been a long time since the files have been processed with the latest version of SA. They should all be done processing sometime today, I imagine.