Different Channel Lineups

[JUC]

Hi all, I am almost ready to take the plunge and get a PVR 500. Few questions on how i will set the channels. I have DTV and one box that will tune all the channels via IR transmitter. The second box I have can only tune to channels above 100 (same provider, same linup--i just can't tune to below 100) by Serial Control---and this is not a problem with an update, just a limitation of the older Sat B3 boxes. So, when I am setting up the different tuner's for the PVR 500, do I just set up one tuner for all the DTV channels I want, and then for the other tuner, just select the same thing but remove the channels below 100?
Thanks
JUC

[JUC]

Okay, one more question as well. I only have one serial port on my Shuttle and that is currently used by an Actisys 200 to change channels on my box. I also have the Sony Satb3 which has a serial port that I plan on using a serial cable with to change channels. Is there such a thing as a 1 to 2 serial converter--and would it work? Or, can I get a USB-->serial converter and would that work (how would I designate Com1, 2,3... if it is USB?). I would prefer not to buy a USB-UIRT at this time but probably will when I add another tuner down the road.
Thanks
JUC

[gplasky]

Usually when you look at your providers listing there would a cable listing and a digital cable listing I thought.

Gerry

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by JUC

I have DTV and one box that will tune all the channels via IR transmitter. The second box I have can only tune to channels above 100 (same provider, same linup--i just can't tune to below 100) by Serial Control---and this is not a problem with an update, just a limitation of the older Sat B3 boxes. So, when I am setting up the different tuner's for the PVR 500, do I just set up one tuner for all the DTV channels I want, and then for the other tuner, just select the same thing but remove the channels below 100?

To do something like that, you'll have to be able to select 2 different providers, so that you end up using 2 different channel lineups. Channels are associated with a lineup, not a source, so when you enable/disable channels on a lineup, it affects all sources using that lienup.

- Andy

[JUC]

Originally Posted by Opus4

To do something like that, you'll have to be able to select 2 different providers, so that you end up using 2 different channel lineups. Channels are associated with a lineup, not a source, so when you enable/disable channels on a lineup, it affects all sources using that lienup.

- Andy

hmm, not really following you. Can I even do what I wanted to do? Two DTV receivers inputting to the PVR 500. One STB can only tune above channel 100 and the other can get them all. I thought I could just configure one source's linup to have all channel's and the other to have some---same provider though. If this is not possible, would it be possible if I had say 2 PVR 150's and not the single 500?
Thanks
JUC

edit: maybe there is a way for me to select another DTV lineup for the one i will not be using local channells on??

[Opus4]

It isn't related at all to the capture device(s) you are using -- it is just that if 2 sources use the same provider/lineup, they share the channel configuration. In order to have each source use differnt channels, they have to use different lineups. (I remember this coming up w/other people using DTV when they had boxes w/different capabilities, but I don't know what they might have done.)

- Andy

[JUC]

got it. I think DTV has multiple linups depending on the area code you enter so I think I should be able to enter a different area code and just enable the channels i want associated with that linup. We'll see though
Thanks
JUC

[Opus4]

Oh -- I remembered one other thing... I don't have DTV, but I thought people said that the channels below 100 were duplicated on some higher channels. _If_ that is true, then you could just disable all the lower channels & use only the higher numbers.

- Andy

[JUC]

thanks....but it doesn't work in my area. For some reason they don't offer my locals in the upper channels (why they do this for other areas and not mine--no clue). I guess I could just get myself another STB that supports serial control and tunes below 100 though.
Thanks for the help
JUC

[Wakecrash]

I had a similar issue, mine was one DRD486RH RCA that tuned to locals below 100, and two old RCAs that tuned to locals using channels in the 800s.

Only fix, I called direct TV and explained how having recievers that have to tune to local channels using different channel numbers is confusing and they gave me a $100 dollar credit to buy 2 new recievers.

I bought two D10-100s, it all worked fine until DTVs recent firmware upgrade to the D-10, now serial control does not work below 100, although I understand IR control still works. I ended up canceling local chanells and plugged an antenna into my PVRs to watch locals over the air.

Also, only the -100 supports serial control, -200, -300, and -400 do not.

So if they give you a credit, try to find an older reciever than the D10 on ebay, perhaps an RCA of the DRD486 vintage.