Simple Sage Server/Client/Service question (I hope)

[rwc]

Computer A has sage running as a service (and sage itself)

If I want to add Computer B running sage client alone, do I need to enable the sage server on Computer A? Or is it automatically enabled since sage is running as a service?

Thanks!

rwc

[stanger89]

Yes.

[mdmint]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Yes.

But he asked two questions with yes to one being different than yes to the other! Ok, almost the same since Sage Service IS Sage Server being run in Service Mode and Sage not in Service mode is of course also Sage Server if Sage Service not running. But since if Sage (UI) run after Sage run in Service mode makes that instance Sage (UI) load in Client Mode not in Sage Server mode could be confusing.

[rwc]

So as long as Sage is run as a service, I do not need to enable the 'Sage Server' setting in the Sage(UI) Detailed Setup screen?

rwc

[stanger89]

Sorry, that would be yes, I think you do need to enable Server in the Detailed setup. The local copy of SageTV (on the server) while much like SageClient interacts slightly differently than SageClient does.

[mdmint]

Originally Posted by rwc

So as long as Sage is run as a service, I do not need to enable the 'Sage Server' setting in the Sage(UI) Detailed Setup screen?

rwc

Are you referring to Detailed Setup in Sage Client proposed on machine B? There yes, you need to tell Sage Client what Sage Server to connect to. If referring to Sage (UI) loading in Client mode while Sage running as Service on machine A under setup>detailed setup>advanced I believe the answer is also yes. My understanding, and the way I did it, was to configure Sage Server from UI while not in Service mode, close Sage Server saving properties file, then enable Service and run in mode. Later if running Sage (UI) in Client mode it will already now be with Sage Server enabled in setup.

[salsbst]

My understanding was that the actual SageTV instance (the thing that shows up as a little SageTV icon when sleeping, aka "pseudoclient") is still required to be running on the server machine, and that the service only did the recordings....but my understanding was wrong (as you can see below, the service is all that is required).

[mdmint]

Originally Posted by salsbst

My understanding was that the actual SageTV instance (the thing that shows up as a little SageTV icon when sleeping, aka "pseudoclient") is still required to be running on the server machine, and that the service only did the recordings.

For full 100% functional use by Clients only the Service needs to run on the Server.

[thatdude90210]

The service mode also functions as server... my server spends most of the time in the service mode. That's because on my setup, even if Sage is sleeping in the tray, it's always logging stuff, preventing my system from going into standby. Btw, I don't remember having to activate "server" the first time I ran service mode.

[stanger89]

Just to confirm, you don't need the psedoclient running to use the server, that's part of the service app.

Re: activating the service, I think you have to but I don't know for sure, I've done enough combinations of fresh installs and installs with restored properties files I'm not exactly sure anymore.

[Opus4]

I'm not entirely sure if I'm just repeating things from above, but...

If you want to connect to the server with _any_ client, you have to enable the "SageTV Server" in Detailed Setup - Advanced. I believe this is true regardless of whether the client is on the same PC or on one of your networked PCs.

When running in service mode, the pseudo-client UI automatically connects to the service whether or not the server is enabled in Detailed Setup. If this were not the case, you wouldn't be able to use the UI if you mistakenly disabled the server. (The service acts as the server.)

- Andy