New HDTV & Sage TV

[ToxMox]

What are your system specs and what are all the exact settings in your Detailed Setup - Video section? Also what resolution are you running at?

[turak]

Originally Posted by GbrNole

i finally have a working msi 6600gt (agp) and it's a great card. good pic.

the only benefit to running dvi or component over vga is that with vga you lose the ability to tweak overscan. if your output is decent re: overscan from the vga port then i would stick with that as it will eliminate some of the problems you get from running dvi and not having renderless exclusive mode in sage.

also as pointed out earlier you will have to use dvd43 or anydvd to strip macrovision so that you can resize to 1280x720.

What are the problems running DVI that you mention? I already spent $100 on a DVI to HDMI cable. It would be a shame not to use it.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by abbott_m

I've got a 6600GT (love the card) as an upgrade to my 5700 (a bit jumpy) card. I loaded up the 66.93 driver from Nvidia but was looking at the current Forceware driver 71.81. Is there any benefit to this if I'm using component out?

You should be using at least the 67.03s available from nVidia. I'm not sure when exactly but nVidia has added a lot of nice stuff in the more recent driver releases. That said, the 67.03 seem to be the best for me.

I'm also wondering about the Nvidia DVD codec. I tried it out and my CPU utilization went up as opposed to the Intervideo codec. Also when switching from live tv to a saved recording Sage just hangs with the Nvidia codec. Am I doing something wrong here?

Mike

What are your settings, in both Sage and the nVidia control panel.

[kny3twalker]

I prefer the 67.66 official beta

[stanger89]

Didn't realize there were newer ones

[abbott_m]

Strange,

Actually I followed one of your posts's directions on setting dvxa and deinterlace to default, setting the nvidia decoder to defaults as well (which are use hardware acceleration and best deinterlace mode). I did note that the picture was significantly better, just wondering why so much higher CPU (around 14% higher CPU as opposed to intervideo codec) and the lockup problems.

[DKT]

What about the 6200 card? If you don't intend to play games and find one with the component connection would this be a good card? Newegg has 3 listed for AGP.

Also, couldn't this be converted to a passive heat sink reducing noise?

[stanger89]

It's probably pretty good, but notably lacking are the 3:2 Pulldown and Bad edit correction found on the faster models (ie the Hardware VPP)

[turak]

My MSI 6600GT just arrived. I installed it in my client fully expecting to be able to do VMR9 at 1280x720 without problems. It's studdering like mad. Anyone have any ideas as to what my problem is? This client is a AMD 2600+ XP (barton) with 1024mb of Corsair XMS 3200 DDR ram. It has an Abit NF7-S2G mobo (nforce2). I have it hooked up to my Samsung HLP6163W via DVI. It's a fresh install of XP. I installed the latest NVDVD and tried with and without post processing. I installed SageClient 2.1.10. I tried replacing the quartz.dll. Didn't help.

[Opus4]

One quick question before someone has a better idea: is it playing on the primary or the secondary display? If secondary, set that one as the primary. If you already know this, then... never mind.

- Andy

[turak]

Originally Posted by Opus4

One quick question before someone has a better idea: is it playing on the primary or the secondary display? If secondary, set that one as the primary. If you already know this, then... never mind.

I only have one display hooked up. So it should be primary. I'll verify this when I get home from work. I should also mention that I have hardware acceleration turned on in NVDVD.

[turak]

After some more testing, I've found that for some reason if I watch in windowed mode (ctrl-shift-f) playback is smooth as silk. If I go fullscreen it gets choppy again.

[PGPfan]

Originally Posted by stanger89

It's probably pretty good, but notably lacking are the 3:2 Pulldown and Bad edit correction found on the faster models (ie the Hardware VPP)

Stanger,

Are you sure about this? I was under the impression that the 6200 AGP has basically all the features of the 6600 only not nearly as much 3D 'gaming' performance. It also seems to be a newer 'rev' of the NV4x chipset so I'd think (hope?) that the die would support the latest features.

-PGPfan

[stanger89]

See here:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

[PGPfan]

Thanks Stanger!

But, I think that is a little old since the AGP 6200 isn't even listed. If I remember correctly there has been alot of debate over what, if anything, PureVideo is, or means. Somehow, I think the jury may be out on this until someone (hardware review site) actually gets one and puts it through the paces.

I'd sure like to get one myself if it were in the sub-$100 range.

-PGPfan

[stanger89]

The only debate I've seen is about the name, the features that comprise it speak for themselves.

[kevthor]

I'm going to try and tag along this thread looking for some help. I just went out and purchased the TOSHIBA 52HM84 DLP TV. I'm pretty dissapointed with the ghosting that the TV displays via Sage or just via my satellite receiver using S-Video. Currently Sage is outputting on my PVR-350 which worked great on my 29" Tube television but like I said the ghosting now is driving me nuts. It seems worse on NBC feeds, for example if someone is walking across the screen a ghost of their body seems to follow close behind them.

Now I'm thinking/hoping out putting sage via DVI will help this problem. Currently I have a 5200 and will be going to purchase a DVI-HDMI cable as my TV only has a HDMI input. My question is, do you guys think I will notice a better picture quality with 5200 over my PVR350? Now I know most posts say to use a 6800 which I may purchase, but I just want to see the quality is like via my 5200. If it is good but I get studdering etc then I will purhcase the 6800.

And one more thing, if I hook up the 5200 via DVI-HDMI do I have to run VMR9 or can I just run Overlay to notice if the picture quality is better than the PVR350.

Thank you for any and all responces. Hope to hear from someone soon!

[jptaz]

The 5200 Picture will be very nice. I have mine setup with DVI and everything is very crisp at 720P.

I have a slower PC so all the video codecs I have tried to a bad job of playing back.

Other threads have suggested that the display will look better with 6800, but as I say still images over the DVI look great...way better than Svideo. I noticed the same ghosting issues with my MediaMVP and the SVideo out on my 5200. I suspect it is something about the scaler in the HD Sets.

EDIT: Interesting side note, My DVD player connected via SVideo does not have the same ghosting issue so it may be some difference in how the PC type SVideo output devices are configured or synch to the TV or maybe a cheaper DACs in those devices.

John

John

[GbrNole]

overlay will be ok but the biggest benefit comes from vmr9 and your 5200 and sage at 1280x720p in vmr9 will NOT be a happy combo.

by all means get a taste in overlay though

[jptaz]

I was pretty happy with overlay until the latest releases of SageTV made it stutter so badly and XCard support came along...My XCard has never Stuttered

John