STB Firewire (IEEE-1394) Support

[ChuckvB]

Originally Posted by timmmoore

I have updated channel.exe and channelw.exe to support channel change on the SA3250HD STB. Since that STB has 2 version of software I dont know which version it works on, so far its been tested and is working on 1 SA3250
The updated versions are at http://www.thegreenbutton.com/commun...ssageID=104152
No additional parameters are required, it checks for the SA3250HD and uses a different firewire command automatically

Seems there is a problem with the link or the file is missing.

[ChuckvB]

Originally Posted by turak

With my motorola 6200 I have three devices. Motorola Tuner, Motorola Panel and Unknown. I've disabled unknown so it doesn't prompt for drivers on reboot. You only need the panel device if you are using firewire to change channels.

With my SA3250 I have two devices and CAPDVHS is working. The two devices that show up are

Panasonic D-VHS AV/C Device
Scientific-Atlantic Tuner AV/C Device (Explorer 3250HD)


Are these the correct two or do I need to change something?

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by ChuckvB

With my SA3250 I have two devices and CAPDVHS is working. The two devices that show up are

Panasonic D-VHS AV/C Device
Scientific-Atlantic Tuner AV/C Device (Explorer 3250HD)


Are these the correct two or do I need to change something?

The links changed to
http://www.thegreenbutton.com/commun...ssageID=104152
Its an installer now, you should install the command line apps and the drivers. If you reinstall using these drivers, both devices should show up as Scientific-Atlantic devices. I would expect a SA Tuner and a SA AV/C Panel. The tuner is for recording and the Panel is for channel change.

[wad06]

Okay, the audio renderer error is starting to get really annoying. I get abc, nbc, INHD 1, INHD 2, discovery channel, and espn just fine. I do, however, not get tnt, cbs, or fox at all.

When I play the recorded files in theatertek from any of the audio render error channels, i get good video with no audio. Also, all of the channels work just fine when testing in Graphedit per the instructions (hitting play after creating the first graph).

Any new ideas on how to make this go away. Also, if anyone wants to save me the trouble of searching, my channel changing over firewire is still fairly hit or miss. I know there is a solution in this thread (read it a couple of days ago), but I forgot where.

Thanks,

Wad

[eobiont]

Just currious. Those of you receiving HDTV, which cable company do you subscrive to?

I have mediacom and in april, I lost firewire feeds of all HDTV that is not a rebroadcast of OTA, and all digital cable channels. The only channels that come in over firewire are the 2-98 range of analog channels and HDTV from local major broadcasters, NBC, FOX and soon PBS.

I dropped the HDTV tier because of this.

Is this totally at the whim of the cable provider, or do the program providers have a hand in this as well?

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by wad06

Okay, the audio renderer error is starting to get really annoying. I get abc, nbc, INHD 1, INHD 2, discovery channel, and espn just fine. I do, however, not get tnt, cbs, or fox at all.

When I play the recorded files in theatertek from any of the audio render error channels, i get good video with no audio. Also, all of the channels work just fine when testing in Graphedit per the instructions (hitting play after creating the first graph).

Any new ideas on how to make this go away. Also, if anyone wants to save me the trouble of searching, my channel changing over firewire is still fairly hit or miss. I know there is a solution in this thread (read it a couple of days ago), but I forgot where.

Thanks,

Wad

Whats the problem with channel changing and what version of channel.exe are you using?

[wad06]

The problem with the channel changing is with missing numbers. It is not consistent with which numbers it misses (it sometimes misses 1, 7, 8, 3).

I'm using the version that was posted as of three weeks ago. I'm not sure how to check the version number.

Thanks for your response,

Wad

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by wad06

The problem with the channel changing is with missing numbers. It is not consistent with which numbers it misses (it sometimes misses 1, 7, 8, 3).

I'm using the version that was posted as of three weeks ago. I'm not sure how to check the version number.

Thanks for your response,

Wad

do start menu->run, cmd, ok
channel -v
it will display the version number. Older versions defaulted to a 0ms timeout. The latest version defaults to a 50ms timeout. So the latest version will probably fix your problem. The link to the latest is a few posts back.

[phantasis]

I've read through the other posts and it doesn't seem like anyone is having this problem. In GraphEdit I am trying to connect either the nVidia Vidoe decoder to overlay mixer2 and it is bombing out. Same happens with InterVideo. Any thoughts?

[ChuckvB]

Originally Posted by phantasis

I've read through the other posts and it doesn't seem like anyone is having this problem. In GraphEdit I am trying to connect either the nVidia Vidoe decoder to overlay mixer2 and it is bombing out. Same happens with InterVideo. Any thoughts?

I've got the same problem. When I try to connect the two together I get the error that the types are are not compatible.

[phantasis]

Originally Posted by ChuckvB

I've got the same problem. When I try to connect the two together I get the error that the types are are not compatible.

I found a solution for this. Download CyberLink PowerCinema TV Plus at http://www.gocyberlink.com/multi/dow...Id=48&lang=ENU and use the Video/SP Decoder as opposed to the Overlay Mixer2 filter. Also, this package gives you the Cyberlink MPEG Muxer.

[gtd885a]

Originally Posted by timmmoore

do start menu->run, cmd, ok
channel -v
it will display the version number. Older versions defaulted to a 0ms timeout. The latest version defaults to a 50ms timeout. So the latest version will probably fix your problem. The link to the latest is a few posts back.

Thanks for the new version, Tim. I was having problems with channel changing, but when I saw your post I realized I had version 1.02 and you have 1.06. Thanks for the updates!

I did notice, however, that I had to force it to send the commands to my Motorola 6200 (using -f), otherwise I just got the message that my hardware wasn't supported (can't remember the exact message). What seemed to work best for me was channelw.exe -f -a2 -t100. I guess my system needed more delay, because it would just go to channel "7" instead of "770" or similar, but it would only do this sometimes. Once it messed up once, though, I pretty much had to restart to get it working again.

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by gtd885a

Thanks for the new version, Tim. I was having problems with channel changing, but when I saw your post I realized I had version 1.02 and you have 1.06. Thanks for the updates!

I did notice, however, that I had to force it to send the commands to my Motorola 6200 (using -f), otherwise I just got the message that my hardware wasn't supported (can't remember the exact message). What seemed to work best for me was channelw.exe -f -a2 -t100. I guess my system needed more delay, because it would just go to channel "7" instead of "770" or similar, but it would only do this sometimes. Once it messed up once, though, I pretty much had to restart to get it working again.

Can you post the output from channel -v, it should recognize the 6200 and do the right thing. If its not I want ot fix it.

[gtd885a]

Firewire STB channel changer V1.0.6, by timmmoore
Device 1 Channel 1 Timeout 50 Dec 0
1 "FireBus MPEG2TS Tuner Subunit Device"
'Motorola AV/C Tuner Device'
"@devicenp:\\?\avc#motorola&dct-6200&typ_5&id_0#37d5bbfeffc91200#{65e8773d-8f5
6-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global" 0
This device is not supported, if you are sure then add the -f flag
2 "Motorola AV/C Panel Device"
'Motorola AVC Panel Device'

UniqueID '37d5bbfeffc91200'
VendorID '12c9'
ModelID '6200'
VendorText 'MOTOROLA'
ModelText 'DCT-6200'
"@devicenp:\\?\avc#motorola&dct-6200&typ_9&id_0#37d5bbfeffc91200#{65e8773d-8f5
6-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global" 1
No device selected

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Would it have anything to do with the fact that I had the drivers installed previously and then used your new installer again? I didn't uninstall and reinstall the devices, should I have?

Thanks.

[travisbell]

I have the exact same problem as you but accidently found a way to make it work.

In your SGraphRecorder.ini file, instead of having;


ExeTunerPath="C:\path\channelw.exe 2"

put;

ExeTunerPath="C:\path\channelw.exe -v 2"

First doesn't work, second one does and quite reliably I might add.

Cheers,

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by gtd885a

Firewire STB channel changer V1.0.6, by timmmoore
Device 1 Channel 1 Timeout 50 Dec 0
1 "FireBus MPEG2TS Tuner Subunit Device"
'Motorola AV/C Tuner Device'
"@devicenp:\\?\avc#motorola&dct-6200&typ_5&id_0#37d5bbfeffc91200#{65e8773d-8f5
6-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global" 0
This device is not supported, if you are sure then add the -f flag
2 "Motorola AV/C Panel Device"
'Motorola AVC Panel Device'

UniqueID '37d5bbfeffc91200'
VendorID '12c9'
ModelID '6200'
VendorText 'MOTOROLA'
ModelText 'DCT-6200'
"@devicenp:\\?\avc#motorola&dct-6200&typ_9&id_0#37d5bbfeffc91200#{65e8773d-8f5
6-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global" 1
No device selected

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Would it have anything to do with the fact that I had the drivers installed previously and then used your new installer again? I didn't uninstall and reinstall the devices, should I have?

Thanks.

You should be using
channel 2 or channelw 2
The device oyu want is the AV/C Panel device, sending commands to the tuner is likely to blue screen the machine
The -v display info it should change the behavour

[gtd885a]

Don't get me wrong, it does work, I just have to use the -f flag. Or, actually, doing what travisbell says works, too. It just doesn't work without doing that.

Yeah, the channel changing has been much more reliable since I installed the new version (actually, has been working perfectly). Thanks again, Tim!

I still have that dang issue with the digital sound not passing through (gets remuxed into what sounds like 2 channels in 6 speakers), but I am currently pretty stable other than that. It's just not the same with 2-channel sound and 6.1 speakers I'm pretty sure it's an issue with the nForce2 motherboards (or, at least some of them).

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by gtd885a

Don't get me wrong, it does work, I just have to use the -f flag. Or, actually, doing what travisbell says works, too. It just doesn't work without doing that.

Yeah, the channel changing has been much more reliable since I installed the new version (actually, has been working perfectly). Thanks again, Tim!

I still have that dang issue with the digital sound not passing through (gets remuxed into what sounds like 2 channels in 6 speakers), but I am currently pretty stable other than that. It's just not the same with 2-channel sound and 6.1 speakers I'm pretty sure it's an issue with the nForce2 motherboards (or, at least some of them).

I dont understand why you need the -f. This should be the device you are using:
2 "Motorola AV/C Panel Device"
'Motorola AVC Panel Device'

UniqueID '37d5bbfeffc91200'
VendorID '12c9'
ModelID '6200'
VendorText 'MOTOROLA'
ModelText 'DCT-6200'
"@devicenp:\\?\avc#motorola&dct-6200&typ_9&id_0#37d5bbfeffc91200#{65e8773d-8f5
6-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global" 1

The 1 at the end says that it shouldn't need the -f. If it says 0 then -f is needed. Can you run
channel -v 2 C
where C is a valid channel number. I would like to see the output to understand why -f is needed.

[gtd885a]

It doesn't do it if I include the "-v", just if I use "channel 2 C". When I use "-v" or "-f", it works fine. When I don't, it says my hardware is not supported.

It didn't do this before, just after installing the new version with the installer. Do you think I should uninstall my devices and reinstall with your installer? Like I said, it's working if I use -f (or -v).

Thanks.

[timmmoore]

Originally Posted by gtd885a

It doesn't do it if I include the "-v", just if I use "channel 2 C". When I use "-v" or "-f", it works fine. When I don't, it says my hardware is not supported.

It didn't do this before, just after installing the new version with the installer. Do you think I should uninstall my devices and reinstall with your installer? Like I said, it's working if I use -f (or -v).

Thanks.

ok, now I understand, thanks. Thats a bug, it shouldn't need -v to pass the supported check.
I would use -v rather than -f until I fix it. If you make a mistake and send the command to the firewire tuner it will blue screen. -v will allow it to pass the supported check without forcing the comand to be sent to non supported devices.