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Old 11-11-2010, 11:29 AM
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just checking if you have had any success tracking this down,,,,, i had two crashes within a few mins last night. I was again watching a currently recording show time shifted.

I am rolling back to an older SageTV folder backup that i have to see if that gets me stable again. Jim what version of Sage are you running?
I'm in the process of doing a reinstall.. I'll be using using sage 7 when done..
But I'm still running my old setup.. Sage V6.6.2.218

I haven't crashed since I posted.. at least not that I've noticed...
go figure..

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Old 12-03-2010, 06:12 AM
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I currently have 2 HD boxes (Motorola 6200s) and 4 SD boxes working flawlessly with Sage. the HD boxes of course are via SGraphRecorder. I plan on adding another Motorola HD6200. Currently I have each one encoding from a different machine, but I plan on trying to run two instances of SGraph off one machine for this next box. Has anyone successfully done this?

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Old 12-03-2010, 07:04 AM
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Yes.. I have do boxes running off of one machine just fine. IIRC it wasn't too difficult to set up..
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:43 PM
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I used to have dual DCT-6200's (I now only use one since most of my recording is done on my dual QAM tuners).

It does work fine. You just need to make a copy of your Sgraphrecorder directory and call it something else (like Sgraphrecorder2)

I do recommend you rename your sgraphrecorder.exe in each of the directories to something like sgraphrecorder_1.exe and sgraphrecorder_2.exe - it make it a lot easier to troubleshoot if you have a problem (otherwise they both show up in the tray as 'sgraphrecorder' and you can't tell which one you're dealing with).
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Old 12-11-2010, 04:51 PM
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Question Need help with initial setup - register.bat?

I'm following the instructions found here:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...postcount=1350

Trying to get fw capture and channel change on my Motorola DCH3200 with Comcast in Portland.

I've got the box connected and drivers installed, but when I go to VLC and try to open the capture device, I can select it and push play - but I get no picture.

The only part of the instructions that tripped me up so far was in the first section where it says to execute REGISTER.BAT... When I downloaded the graphedit software and extracted the zip I don't have a REGISTER.BAT to execute. This is apparently to register the filters.

How do I do this step? Is there still a filter registration that needs to be done here? Could this be keeping me from seeing video or am I SOL with my tuner box?

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Old 12-11-2010, 05:22 PM
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I just did a reinstall with win7 and I got it working fine.. The step you might need is..

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If you used the first link, which comes with several filters, open a command,
unzip it into a directory you can easily get to through a command prompt. Go
there and execute register.bat. This will register all the filters. Now put
proppage.dll in the same directory and execute regsvr32 proppage.dll from the
same folder. You should see a successful registry of the file.
I don't know if I did the register.bat file .. but I did do the regsvr32 proppage.dll

At least try that...

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Old 12-11-2010, 05:35 PM
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I just did a reinstall with win7 and I got it working fine.. The step you might need is..



I don't know if I did the register.bat file .. but I did do the regsvr32 proppage.dll

At least try that...

Jim
Thanks for the quick reply.

I did find the proppage.dll file and successfully registered that one.

Is there something I need to set in VLC with respect to the capture mode - DirectShow or DVB DirectShow?

Is there another way to determine if my STB is outputting video?

Thanks again,
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:27 PM
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The other thing to think about is your cable box might be encrypting everything.
Make sure you cable box is set to a local channel that has a high confidence that it's not encrypted...

Like I said.. I can't remember if I did the register.bat... I might have...

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Old 12-11-2010, 07:44 PM
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When I try to play from the capture device in VLC it just says:

dshow:// in the bottom and the window doesn't expand or show any video.

Is this a total 5C shutdown?

Anyone else in Portland, OR or w/ Comcast that can make this work?

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Old 12-11-2010, 07:48 PM
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how:// in the bottom and the window doesn't expand or show any video.
Have you tried rebooting your cable box? Happened to me once where everything was enumerating properly but it wasn't recording anything. But once I restarted (unplugged for 5 sec) the cable box everything was fine again. I'm guessing they just pushed out a firmware update or something.
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:01 AM
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Have you tried rebooting your cable box? Happened to me once where everything was enumerating properly but it wasn't recording anything. But once I restarted (unplugged for 5 sec) the cable box everything was fine again. I'm guessing they just pushed out a firmware update or something.
No joy... I've tried that.

Looks like they've either shut me down or I need to get a new box. But the fact that I can see the box and install the drivers in Device Managers has me leaning towards a total 5C lockdown.

Or I'm doing something wrong...
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:21 AM
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leaning towards a total 5C lockdown.
I sure hope not. I'm up in Seattle, and we're usually just a few months behind whatever Comcast does down there.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:03 AM
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I doubt they've gone 5c on you. You say you don't see anything when you hit play in graphedit - when you hit play, and watch the folder where you've got your mpegdump file, if you hit refresh do you see the file growing?
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:58 AM
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I doubt they've gone 5c on you. You say you don't see anything when you hit play in graphedit - when you hit play, and watch the folder where you've got your mpegdump file, if you hit refresh do you see the file growing?
I haven't gotten to the step of using graphedit. I was just trying to confirm that I had a stream by using VLC.

Maybe I should continue the rest of the setup before I give up. I just figured if I couldn't see anything in VLC then I was out of luck.

I'll see if I can get channel changing to work. That should at least confirm that I'm communicating with the STB.

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Old 12-12-2010, 11:32 AM
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Yes I believe that if you can't get it working in VLC then you are hosed..

What did you connect to in VLC? The Panel or the tuner device?
What OS?
I think I must have done the register.bat because I saw it in the graphedit directory... You might need to actually do that...

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Old 12-12-2010, 12:27 PM
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Yes I believe that if you can't get it working in VLC then you are hosed..

What did you connect to in VLC? The Panel or the tuner device?
What OS?
I think I must have done the register.bat because I saw it in the graphedit directory... You might need to actually do that...

Jim
I just noticed that the new version of graphedit doesn't have a register.bat file in the directory. So I downloaded the older version and discovered that it does include register.bat.

So I tried to reinstall everything to see if I could get it working.

AND...

It still doesn't work. Same behavior as before.

I'm using Windows Home Server for my OS and a DCH3200 cable box.

Arghh.
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:07 AM
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I just noticed that the new version of graphedit doesn't have a register.bat file in the directory. So I downloaded the older version and discovered that it does include register.bat.

So I tried to reinstall everything to see if I could get it working.

AND...

It still doesn't work. Same behavior as before.

I'm using Windows Home Server for my OS and a DCH3200 cable box.

Arghh.
I'm seeing same behavior even with my setup. I have a Insight DVR (Motorola DCT6416) and I tried the steps in the guide. I'm able to switch channels using MultiTuner plugin. And, if I use graphedit and dump the output as shown in the guide, I see that the size of the file is growing continuously. But I cannot play that file in any video player application. I've tried VLC and WinDVD. As per what I see, the issue could be due to (1) missing codec or (2) 5c'd content. I'm not sure where to go from here.

Also, I am using the new version of graphedit and did not try to find proppage.dll and register it. Could this be a problem?
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:42 AM
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I'm seeing same behavior even with my setup.
I gave up...

Let us know if you make any progress.

I wonder if there is any way to determine if our programming is 5C'd so that we know if what we are trying to do is even possible..

Good luck,
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:21 AM
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I gave up...

Let us know if you make any progress.

I wonder if there is any way to determine if our programming is 5C'd so that we know if what we are trying to do is even possible..

Good luck,
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Finally, I was able to get video over firewire from my insight DVR. I'm not certain what change I made that fixed this issue for me. I can remember doing the following things
1. Installed DirectX SDK from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...displaylang=en . I couldn't imagine how this would have fixed the issue. But this is something that I did do.
2. Reboot
2. Installed Zoom Player and let it install all updates during install.
3. Reboot

Now, both VLC test and Graphedit test worked fine. I was able to see the video and hear the audio. Now, I'm stuck at the final level i.e. forcing sage to use SageGraphRecorder. I did try the steps in the tutorial (added the lines to Sage.properties) and every time I opened SageTV, SageTV just removed the lines that I added from Sage.properties. I have not spent any time on this yet. I'm hoping I'll be able to find some tips from the forum. Let me see.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:59 AM
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You need to STOP all Sage services and/or prgrams from running and then edit the .properties file.

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