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Old 11-05-2004, 05:21 PM
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As far as I know you can uninstall Hauppauge software as Matt's Client provides everything needed for SageMVP. At the very least you need to turn off the standard MediaMVP services.

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Old 11-05-2004, 05:44 PM
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As far as I know you can uninstall Hauppauge software as Matt's Client provides everything needed for SageMVP. At the very least you need to turn off the standard MediaMVP services.

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You could replace the mvp/dongle.bin file (this is the software running in the MVP itself) with a one contained in the original Hauppauge Software, but please do not report problems without telling me about this.

Of course, if someone finds a dongle.bin that works better than the one contained in the MVP Client, I'm definitely interested in that information

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Old 11-05-2004, 06:18 PM
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Okay, so I've seen that some peeps have had up to 2 MVP's up and running, but the real question to me is ... how many can I really get up and running? I ask this because I'm setting up a friend's house with a SageTV solution where I will be using at least 4 MVP's. Is this possible with the MVP client?
I'm sorry if I just missed it, but did anyone ever answer if more than 2 MVP's could be used in a system?
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:52 PM
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I'm sorry if I just missed it, but did anyone ever answer if more than 2 MVP's could be used in a system?
There is nothing in the MVP Client software limiting the number of MVPs you could run. I preconfigured ports for 5 MVPs in mvp.properties, but you can add as many as you like as long as the PC and the network can handle them.

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Old 11-05-2004, 06:55 PM
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There is nothing in the MVP Client software limiting the number of MVPs you could run. I preconfigured ports for 5 MVPs in mvp.properties, but you can add as many as you like as long as the PC and the network can handle them.

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Old 11-05-2004, 09:22 PM
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In this big thread, some questions get overlooked:
Can you map more buttons than are on the Hauppage remote by using a different, standard IR remote? Or are you limited to learning and mapping the original buttons?
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Old 11-05-2004, 11:05 PM
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I followed the instructions to a tee to run the MVP as a client. However when I power on my MVP it just sits at "Contacting MediaMVP Boot Server..."

Is there a step I missed?

**EDIT** I have now found that it looks like my MVP is not receiving an IP address as my DHCP clients table doesn't show it at all. I am getting link lights and I have tried a new port on my router that I know works. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks

**EDIT-2** I got it to work. Here were my problems, 1: I had to install the Hauppuage software. Once I did that it connected fine to the Hauppauge MVP software. I then stopped the Hauppauge's MVP processes, Ran Sageclient and fired on the MVP again. It's now working fine.

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Old 11-06-2004, 03:34 AM
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In this big thread, some questions get overlooked:
Can you map more buttons than are on the Hauppage remote by using a different, standard IR remote? Or are you limited to learning and mapping the original buttons?
If you can find a remote that works with the MVP, it should work. The MVP Client doesn't know anything about specific keys. It just passes the key codes to SageTV which interpretes them (see Setup > Detailed Setup > Commands). Of course, the MVP itself could filter out unknown keys, but this is unlikely. Please let us know if you get there - successfully or not.

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I got it to work. Here were my problems, 1: I had to install the Hauppuage software. Once I did that it connected fine to the Hauppauge MVP software. I then stopped the Hauppauge's MVP processes, Ran Sageclient and fired on the MVP again. It's now working fine.
I have no explanation for why you had to temporarly run the Hauppauge software. Only thing not handled by the MVP Client software automatically is the opening of ports the MVP needs to access the MVP Client (see mvp\mvp.properties for a list of required ports).

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Old 11-06-2004, 08:26 AM
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well just a hint if any you scean new PVR (45 button) Remote that come with PVR 150 you soon beable buy it off the Hauppauge web store for your older PVR (Need latest IR32) and MediaMVP (No update out) they told that the new remote was going be about $15.
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Old 11-06-2004, 08:52 AM
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Thanks for the news; but what does "mediaMVP (no update out)" mean?
I'll be sure to let you know how it goes.
edit: I'm guessing they're not making a new MVP model with the new remote.
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Old 11-06-2004, 09:38 AM
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It mean remote codes are not build in the dongle.bin in order to make use of the new remote.
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Old 11-06-2004, 09:41 AM
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WHOO HOOO

I was able to take Matt's client update, a brand spanking new MediaMVP and get everything up and running in less than 20 minutes.

Matt ~ YOU RULE!
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Old 11-06-2004, 10:30 AM
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Yeah, it really is working well for me as well. I still need to mess with the transparency adjustments, though. Kind of distracting how dark it gets when the OSD pops up. Just have to find the time...

Already decommissioned the PC I used to use in one room because the MVP is working so well.

Thinking of picking up 2 more MVPs today. One to replace a PC based client and another for a room that does not currently have a client. Should be cool.

Looking forward to not having to maintain PCs all over the place in order to watch TV..

P.S. I also need to remember to make a donation to Matt now that I've decided I'm going to use it. I think he deserves it! Certainly don't mind supporting end user developments that I'm going to use. (EDIT: Donation made. Thanks Matt)

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Old 11-06-2004, 11:58 AM
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By the way, I was one of those (the only one?) that was having problems with the Back button bringing up LiveTV. Well, I was trying to make things more complicated than they needed to be. I setup the USBUIRT and told SageTV to add the Back/Exit button from the Hauappauge remote but I did it directly on the computer. Once I finally used the MediaMVP UI to make the change, everything worked fine. By the way, to do this, go to Detailed Setup --> Commands and you need to do it from the MediaMVP as it passes a slightly different code than if you do it directly at the computer. At least that was my problem.

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Old 11-06-2004, 04:14 PM
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P.S. I also need to remember to make a donation to Matt now that I've decided I'm going to use it. I think he deserves it! Certainly don't mind supporting end user developments that I'm going to use. (EDIT: Donation made. Thanks Matt)
Thanks a lot! Just bought a second MVP using donations to be able to support you guys better

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PS. I have started a FAQ/Troubleshooting page to cover the most important MVP Client issues.
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Old 11-06-2004, 04:27 PM
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Now this probably doesn't have anything to do with the software but more of a hardware limitiation, but I notice some choppiness with the MVP. I am running it and the server on a 100MBps half duplex switch. My shows are recorded at 5.6GB an hour though.

I don't really understand why it would be choppy though because when I'm watching the client on my 54MBps wireless laptop the shows play completley fine. Anyone have any ideas?

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Old 11-06-2004, 04:56 PM
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Out of sync

Has anyone else had a problem with the playback becoming out of sync when using either the commercial skip or fast forward? I can usually put it back into sync by merely hitting the rewind button once, but it'd be really nice if I could figure out how to keep it from happening. Ideas?
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Old 11-06-2004, 05:11 PM
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Has anyone else had a problem with the playback becoming out of sync when using either the commercial skip or fast forward? I can usually put it back into sync by merely hitting the rewind button once, but it'd be really nice if I could figure out how to keep it from happening. Ideas?
I only had this early in the development.

Is this happening with all your MPEGs?
What's the source of the MPEGs showing this behavior?
What's the bitrate, resolution, etc. of these MPEGs?

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Old 11-06-2004, 05:40 PM
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Hmmm. Nope. I use the commercial skip, and so far have never seen it go OOS.

I HAVE seen my audio turn super staticy a few times. But I think I've determined it was a Media MVP overheating issue. Since I've moved it to a place with more ventilation hasn't happened anymore... (knock on wood)

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Has anyone else had a problem with the playback becoming out of sync when using either the commercial skip or fast forward? I can usually put it back into sync by merely hitting the rewind button once, but it'd be really nice if I could figure out how to keep it from happening. Ideas?
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Old 11-06-2004, 06:06 PM
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Ok, here is a weird one... I'm using Nielm's STV, not sure if it matter in this case or not.

If I set my client to load on startup in the system tray, then add the "-startup" option to my desktop shortcut I can't get the MediaMVP to connect.

As soon as I wake up the client out of the system tray, it works fine. It continues to work fine after I put it back into the system tray as well. It seems like it needs to display the interface once before it loads the java files for the MVP (?)...

To reproduce:
1. Go to Setup -> Detailed Setup -> Advanced and set LOAD AT WINDOWS STARTUP to "System Tray".
2. Close the client to save the setting
3. Make (or change) a shortcut to the SageTVClient.exe and add the command line parameter "-startup" to the end. So it would be "SageTVClient.exe -startup"
4. Load the client from that shortcut. Verify it loads directly to the system tray
5. Try to connect Media MVP

Hopefully this isn't just my system. And if it is a bug (likely a Sage bug itself if it is, rather than a MediaMVP or STV bug) then hopefully Jeff can fix it.

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