MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[Matt]

This is very strange! I got a log file from Jason and it shows that the MVP is actually playing the show (it continuosly
asks for more data to show)!!

My best suggestion is to power cycle the MVP (wait some time with power disconnected before plugging it in again).

If that doesn't help, here are some other things to check:

- does this happen with all recordings? Maybe some of your recordings are in a format the MVP cannot display.
- can you play MP3s (i.e. do you get sound but no picture)?
- do you have a personal firewall on the client? All ports open?
- if you run the original Hauppauge Software on the client PC instead of the MVP Client, does video work then?

-Matt

[that_kid]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

Is anybody else using the MVP client with the latest 2.2.4 beta?
I am getting screen corruption of the OSD, both during playback and on the main menu.

I'm running my mvp with with the latest beta without any issues.

[Jason]

This is very strange! I got a log file from Jason and it shows that the MVP is actually playing the show (it continuosly
asks for more data to show)!!

That's what I thought as well! I went through the entire post and re-read all the issues that have arisen. There were two (I should have wrote the post #'s down...) that seemed to speak of the same situation. In both cases, there was no response from the people that said if they ever solved their problem...

My best suggestion is to power cycle the MVP (wait some time with power disconnected before plugging it in again).

If that doesn't help, here are some other things to check:

- does this happen with all recordings? Maybe some of your recordings are in a format the MVP cannot display.

Yes - it happens with each and every recording. The recordings are done by either a PVR250 or a PVR150. They are VBR recordings...

- can you play MP3s (i.e. do you get sound but no picture)?

From within the SageTV MVP Client, I get no audio or video. The menus are just fine, but when any media format is selected, it is, as Matt will have to chuckle at, a 'No Go...'.

- do you have a personal firewall on the client? All ports open?

Yes, I do have ZA (Free version) going on both systems. However, it makes no difference if I disable it or run it...

- if you run the original Hauppauge Software on the client PC instead of the MVP Client, does video work then?

Yes, it does.

However... While I never noticed this before, the Hauppauge (MVP side...) software does not recognize mapped drives... The software on the PC lets you select mapped drives for the respective media folders, but the MVP side of things does not recognize them. When you go to add the mapped drives/folders back from within the MVP side, it does not list them... I was using the most recent BETA of the MVP software from SHS's site...

http://www.shspvr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6571


-Jason

[Jason]

All-

How many folks are running Matt's client with the following situations/hardware/software...

1. Via SageTV Client...
2. With SageTV running as a service...
3. With SageTVClient running on a seperate computer from that of SageTV...
4. With mapped drives...

I believe that most folks are running via one system (ie; the client connects to localhost/127.0.0.1) and connect/run the MVP client to SageTV or SageTVClient from that same system.

I have no problems running the SageTVClient on either system, but only have issues running the MVP client from the SageTVClient on a second system.

-Jason

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jason

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2. With SageTV running as a service...
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4. With mapped drives...

I'm surprised this works. I always thought Windows Services cannot access mapped drives and the SageTV manual says the same ("service cannot access mapped drives").

Did you change the drive letters on the server to J:/K: or did you really map them?

Did you try UNC names for your video folders? Might be worth a try (make sure to backup wiz.bin ;-).

Anyway, I'm going to try to mirror your setup over the weekend to see if I can reproduce your problem.

-Matt

[turak]

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm surprised this works. I always thought Windows Services cannot access mapped drives and the SageTV manual says the same ("service cannot access mapped drives").

Did you change the drive letters on the server to J:/K: or did you really map them?

Did you try UNC names for your video folders? Might be worth a try (make sure to backup wiz.bin ;-).

Anyway, I'm going to try to mirror your setup over the weekend to see if I can reproduce your problem.

-Matt

I can watch imported media from a mapped drive with SageTV/SageClient/MVP_SageClient. My Tivo can also play mp3's from the same mapped drive. The original MVP software could not.

[turak]

Originally Posted by Jason

All-

How many folks are running Matt's client with the following situations/hardware/software...

1. Via SageTV Client...
2. With SageTV running as a service...
3. With SageTVClient running on a seperate computer from that of SageTV...
4. With mapped drives...

I believe that most folks are running via one system (ie; the client connects to localhost/127.0.0.1) and connect/run the MVP client to SageTV or SageTVClient from that same system.

I have no problems running the SageTVClient on either system, but only have issues running the MVP client from the SageTVClient on a second system.

-Jason

I'm running a client for MVP on my SageTV server with SageTV running as a service.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by turak

I'm running a client for MVP on my SageTV server with SageTV running as a service.

So everything is being ran off one PC? In addition, you run the MVP client off of SageTV (as opposed to SageTVClient)?

If I am reading you correctly, then I can run the exact same setup and have no problems in doing so.

-Jason

[Jason]

Matt-

OK... I started from scratch. I de-installed EVERYTHING... (Sage/CLient/MVP/etc). I re-ran the SageTV setup and setup my media folders with UNC naming.

I then setup my SageTVClient on my office PC.

As before, the Client work just fine. When I load up the MVP product, the menu's pop up but no video or sound. I can run a copy of the Client and the MVP setup at the same time and the normal client works just fine... Go figure... It makes no difference if I run SageTV in normal or service mode BTW.

In any case, I'm still at the same point. I'm going to setup the MVP off of the server for right now to keep the wife happy...

Nobody has responded in regards to their current setup. Most folks appear to run the MVP client off of the server (SageTV in either normal or service mode)) as opposed to the SageTVClient on another PC.

-Jason

[JasonJoel]

Yup, I am running SageTV as service, two Sage Clients running ON THE SAME MACHINE that run the MVP client.

Probably doesn't help you much.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by Jason

Matt-

OK... I started from scratch. I de-installed EVERYTHING... (Sage/CLient/MVP/etc). I re-ran the SageTV setup and setup my media folders with UNC naming.

I then setup my SageTVClient on my office PC.

As before, the Client work just fine. When I load up the MVP product, the menu's pop up but no video or sound. I can run a copy of the Client and the MVP setup at the same time and the normal client works just fine... Go figure... It makes no difference if I run SageTV in normal or service mode BTW.

In any case, I'm still at the same point. I'm going to setup the MVP off of the server for right now to keep the wife happy...

Nobody has responded in regards to their current setup. Most folks appear to run the MVP client off of the server (SageTV in either normal or service mode)) as opposed to the SageTVClient on another PC.

-Jason

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jason

Nobody has responded in regards to their current setup. Most folks appear to run the MVP client off of the server (SageTV in either normal or service mode)) as opposed to the SageTVClient on another PC.

Well, I just moved my MVP Client to a different PC and the playback of recordings and Live TV on the MVP just worked (after changing the server config from "localhost" to the PCs network name in sageclient.properties)! This is with SagaTV as service and UNC video folder names.

I'm really out of ideas why this does not work for you, especially since the log file you sent me indicates that the MVP *is* playing the show...

BTW, when your are at the black screen and you press info, do you see the time bar move on the OSD or does it stay at the beginning?

-Matt

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Matt

Well, I just moved my MVP Client to a different PC and the playback of recordings and Live TV on the MVP just worked (after changing the server config from "localhost" to the PCs network name in sageclient.properties)! This is with SagaTV as service and UNC video folder names.

I'm really out of ideas why this does not work for you, especially since the log file you sent me indicates that the MVP *is* playing the show...

BTW, when your are at the black screen and you press info, do you see the time bar move on the OSD or does it stay at the beginning?

-Matt

It moves, just as if it is playing...

Just a quick question... In your path to your recorded files, do you have any 'spaces' in the naming? I know that linux sometimes does not like spaces in names and you have to post/pre - pend the path with quotes. I know, it may be a long shot... My path is "\\media\media (j)\recorded tv"... I am wondering of the MVP 'barfs' on the spaces after 'media' and before '(j)' and in between 'recorded' and 'tv'.

-Jason

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jason

It moves, just as if it is playing...

This only happens if the MVP is asking for data to show (the MVP "pulls" the media data from the MVP Client).

Originally Posted by Jason

Just a quick question... In your path to your recorded files, do you have any 'spaces' in the naming? I know that linux sometimes does not like spaces in names and you have to post/pre - pend the path with quotes. I know, it may be a long shot... My path is "\\media\media (j)\recorded tv"... I am wondering of the MVP 'barfs' on the spaces after 'media' and before '(j)' and in between 'recorded' and 'tv'.

Nope, no spaces. But it's the MVP Client reading the file and this is Java-land and if the MVP were unable to open the file, you'd see errors in the log. The log also indicates that the MVP Client is able to determine lenght and bitrate of the recording and this is only possible if it can open and read the file.

How's your network topology? Are the network paths (routers, switches etc.) to the MVP any different depending on where you run the MVP Client (Client PC or Server PC)?

Is the Client PC very slow?

Confused,
Matt

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Jason

How many folks are running Matt's client with the following situations/hardware/software...

1. Via SageTV Client...
2. With SageTV running as a service...
3. With SageTVClient running on a seperate computer from that of SageTV...
4. With mapped drives...

I run with #3 and changed localhost to the Static IP and use UNC paths. Works great for me now after I remembered to change localhost to my sageTV servers static IP.

BobP.

[briands]

silly observation that may not apply at all here. If I have my Video Renderer set as VMR9, I get the same black screen that you describe... The time bar works, but the screen is black. Change to overlay and it works fine. NOTE - THIS IS ON SAGE server - I AM NOT USING MVP AT ALL. This may have nothing to do with your issue, but it sounded so similar that I thought I'd throw it out there.

Now an MVP question... Where to get the best price these days?

[Toddly]

Originally Posted by Matt

Well, I just moved my MVP Client to a different PC and the playback of recordings and Live TV on the MVP just worked (after changing the server config from "localhost" to the PCs network name in sageclient.properties)! This is with SagaTV as service and UNC video folder names.-Matt

When I first started using the MVP plugin I had the same problem with a black screen. I was running SageTV as a service at that time. When I changed the Sageclientproperties to my computer name insted of localhost the MVP began to work just a charm.

[briands]

Alright... finally got all the way through this thread... 2 questions...
1) What is the latest as far as playing ripped DVDs? Is there a way that will not reduce the quality of the video or audio? I really don't want to have to keep 2 DVD directories.


2) Anyone know anything about the MediaMVP remotes? Are they configurable at all? Wouldn't it be great to teach it the power (and maybe volume)command for your TV???

[gplasky]

1) The issue with playing riped DVDs on the MVP is the audio. MVP cannot play AC3 so the audio needs to be ripped to another format to work. You don't have to reduce the video quality.

2) The MVP remotes are NOT learning remotes so you can't teach them anything.

Gerry

[krutaw]

Originally Posted by gplasky

1) The issue with playing riped DVDs on the MVP is the audio. MVP cannot play AC3 so the audio needs to be ripped to another format to work. You don't have to reduce the video quality.

2) The MVP remotes are NOT learning remotes so you can't teach them anything.

Gerry

Yup, and the rips work wonderfully here.

[briands]

Originally Posted by mhatten

If you haven't been told a solution yet... here is what I do.
I have another PC using a very limited setup of GBPVR with the DVD2MPEG plugin only (http://www.bladerhq.com/pmwiki/pmwik...lugin/DVD2MPEG). I can throw a DVD in and in about an hour I have single mpeg file of the movie. I then copy the mpeg into one of my sage import directories.

The first version of the plugin had audio synch problems, but the later ones work perfect. I've ripped about 5 DVDs to mpegs and the MVP plays them perfectly.

Will the audio have to be converted to 2 channel? Is there a way to manage multiple streams so I can still get 5.1 on my Sage machines? Can these plugins manage all sound formats (DTS?)

Sorry if these are dumb questions, but I just like to understand a bit more before I go installing a bunch of stuff.