DVB-S/T/C Support

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by insomniac

The recording is handled by software and the card, Carlg. No other capture devices are necessary.

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Yea, I know that....I'd like to be able to record with the convertx for the format and quality. The format the nexus-s records in is ok to watch but I like recording football and the panning and zooming and high motion is just a little too much for that card imo. Not to mention to transcode the files into something else (divx, dvd) is a pita. Recording from the a/v out to the convertx does a really nice job, and if you want to store some of those video files on dvd, divx, mpeg4 or vcd it'll be alot easier and the quality will be a fair amount better. What I was confused about was whether or not it could be done Having said all that, I didn't mean to make it look like one feature was more important than the other by offering more, because to me they're both equally important. Was tired after a long day of work. So, rather than knock the $40 down to $30, I'm offering $40 per each feature/plugin. $80 U.S. total from me for both Edited to add my specs:

1 legacy dual lnb on echo 110
1 single lnb (Directv) on echo 119
Spacelab diseqc (Yuch, soon to be Chieta)
Hauppage Nexus-s driver version 1.7.0.5 (Skystar-1)
Haven't YET found a way to get MT nor Sage to work properly, Works perfectly well with Progdvb and vremote though

[insomniac]

Thought I should share my progress..

I seem to be working about 99% at this point in time. Since I dont want to be one of those guys that say "my setup works perfectly" and dissapear from the thread.... My present setup to follow:

2 single DishPro LNB's to a Pansat Diseqc 1x4 switch (2 unused lnb inputs for now).

working ini's to scan satellites:

[SATTYPE]
1=2410
2=Dish Network (119)

[DVB]
0=32
1=12224,V,20000,56
2=13361,V,20000,56
3=12253,V,20000,56
4=13332,V,20000,56
5=12282,V,20000,56
6=13303,V,20000,56
7=12311,V,20000,56
8=13274,V,20000,56
9=12341,V,20000,56
10=13245,V,20000,56
11=12370,V,20000,56
12=13216,V,20000,56
13=12399,V,20000,56
14=13186,V,20000,56
15=12428,V,20000,56
16=13157,V,20000,56
17=12457,V,20000,56
18=13128,V,20000,56
19=12486,V,20000,34
20=13099,V,20000,56
21=12516,V,20000,56
22=13070,V,20000,56
23=12545,V,20000,56
24=13041,V,20000,56
25=12574,V,20000,56
26=13012,V,20000,56
27=12603,V,20000,56
28=12982,V,20000,56
29=12632,V,20000,56
30=12953,V,20000,56
31=12661,V,20000,56
32=12924,V,20000,56

[SATTYPE]
1=2500
2=Dish Network (110)

[DVB]
0=32
1=12224,V,20000,56
2=13361,V,20000,56
3=12253,V,20000,56
4=13332,V,20000,56
5=12282,V,20000,56
6=13303,V,20000,56
7=12311,V,20000,23
8=13274,V,20000,56
9=12341,V,20000,56
10=13245,V,20000,56
11=12370,V,20000,56
12=13216,V,20000,56
13=12399,V,20000,23
14=13186,V,20000,56
15=12428,V,20000,56
16=13157,V,20000,56
17=12457,V,20000,23
18=13128,V,20000,56
19=12486,V,20000,23
20=13099,V,20000,56
21=12516,V,20000,34
22=13070,V,20000,56
23=12545,V,20000,56
24=13041,V,20000,56
25=12574,V,20000,56
26=13012,V,20000,56
27=12603,V,20000,56
28=12982,V,20000,56
29=12632,V,20000,56
30=12953,V,20000,56
31=12661,V,20000,56
32=12924,V,20000,56

Things to do:

When you scan your satellites, make sure that you do it without a switch. Otherwise your results from your scan, and your channel changing will suffer. This was a major setback that I could of avoided if I had done this from the start.

Whatever machine hosts sdvbrecorder must have hyperthreading either turned off, or you can right click the sdvbrecorder process and set the processor affinity to one processor. Very important!

Make sure that the fast mux switch is set to false. Again, very important!

Someone can correct me if im wrong, but in avbroadcaster, I dont believe its necessary to actually have it broadcasting. Even if it is, you can surely click the audio only option.

you must manually edit the channels.mdb to reflect the correct channel numbers on every channel (as in Yoja's directions).

Things that still happen:

Sometimes you will get a black screen inbetween channel changes (seems like a sdvbrecorder bug on how it handles file creation?) You will need to change the channel and then change it back. Again, this is in the 1% percentile, but its a major downfall if you have a scheduled recording and this happens (murphys law?).

Am I happy?

Enough, yes. I am incredibly greatful for Anders hard work getting this solution going! Although I would much rather pay someone to integrate channel changing w/o outside plugins, and somehow figure out how to allow for hyperthreading and fast mux switching. My $30 offer still stands.

Hope this helps someone....

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[CarlG]

Those transponder settings will not work with legacy lnb's will they? I'm in the process of doing all the rescanning with some transponder inis from the joshyfun site. I wonder if ordering dishpro's would make a heckuva difference? Anybody else working on this with the Nexus-s? One way or another i wana get this sucker working You have helped at least one person for sure that i know of insomniac Without your help I'd probably be giving up right about now My offers still stand too!

[insomniac]

Im unsure if those transponder settings will work with legacy. Even If they do, I believe you want your LOF settings as follows:

LOF1 = 11250000
SW = 0
LOF2 = 11250000

Glad some of the information i posted could help

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Originally Posted by CarlG

Those transponder settings will not work with legacy lnb's will they? I'm in the process of doing all the rescanning with some transponder inis from the joshyfun site. I wonder if ordering dishpro's would make a heckuva difference? Anybody else working on this with the Nexus-s? One way or another i wana get this sucker working You have helped at least one person for sure that i know of insomniac Without your help I'd probably be giving up right about now My offers still stand too!

[arnonm]

Just started playing around with the Nova-T card (a newer model) and DVBCoreRecorder shows a device not found message. I have it set as deviceid 0 and it is the only card.
Any ideas or help to work it out?

Arnon

[AndersNolberger]

Unfortunately I don't think the new Nova cards is supported by the version of DVBCore that is used in SDVBCoreRecorder. And with the new license of DVBCore I can't upgrade it to use the newer versions.

[arnonm]

Yes,
I have noticed that the new MyTheatre supports these cards, but the olders don't seem to.
What a shame, I really wanted to use Sage....

[insomniac]

Thought I should share a good find for the Hyperthreading issue with sdvbrecorder....

If you do not want to slow down your machine by disabling hyperthreading, or setting the processor affinity everytime you start sdvbrecorder, you do as I have done. This will work with most all applications, so keep it in thed back of your mind for other fixes.. Below is a link to imagecfg.exe w/ instructions:

http://www.robpol86.com/misc_pgs/imagecfg.php

Its a simple patch on the binary which makes the program permanently start with whatever processor you choose. If you have hyperthreading on 1(2 hyperthreaded..), then your setting would be:

imagecfg -a 0x1 c:\path\to\file.exe

http://www.robpol86.com/misc_pgs/imagecfg.php


MAKE A BACKUP! works fine for me, but it would be wise to back your executable up. Always is...


Anders,

One thing that I am missing is the ability to specify which driver to use (by default) when you launch the application. Im pretty sure that dvbcore does allow for such command line parameter. Would you happen to know if it will work here and what it is?

e.g.

sdvbcorerecorder.exe -enhanced

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[bartley9]

Does anyone know why a DVB-T card is any different to a normal analogue card? Doesn't the DVB-T card have on an board MPEG2 encoder just like the analogue card. I don't see what the big problem should be.

Anyone care to shoot me down?

[AndersNolberger]

DVB-T is already MPEG2 so no encoder is needed. But in principle a DVB card is as simple (or difficult) to support as an analog card with encoder.

The reason for bad support is that the market has been to small and that all cards had its own driver architecture. Now that BDA is coming I think that more programs will support DVB.

As most know I am working on a network encoder for BDA. I have not finished it yet but that is not because of technical difficulties (at least not only that) but I am doing it on my free time and there are so many other things to do.

We will see who is first with DVB support: me, someone else or Frey! (I already have one plugin but it is not working very well for all users, try it if your card is supported.)

[CarlG]

I really want to know what setup you guys got that has the dvb-s working smoothly...I know of one guy who has it workin real good and he has dishpro lnbs, a dp34 sw, and a skystar2-I'm not pointing any fingers Anybody have any results to share? I was just gona copy his setup but I can't find any single dishpro lnb's If you have dvb-s working with sage please let us know what you got Even if you're tryin and it's not working heck let us know what you got there too k?

What I have is:

Nexus-s
two legacy lnbs aimed at echo 110 and 119
Chieta 1X4 Switch

This setup is kinda working, but not flawless

Carl G

BTW Insomniac your pms are full

[audballz]

[QUOTE=insomniac]Thought I should share my progress..

How about you share your modified SDVBRecorder.ini as well.

I'm getting close just want to compare with a working ini.

Thanks Anders, Yoja, and Insomniac for all your help!!!!

[insomniac]

DVB-S requires no modifications to sdvbrecorder.ini. All it needs is a correct channels.mdb. PM me if you need help with that.

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[QUOTE=audballz]

Originally Posted by insomniac

Thought I should share my progress..

How about you share your modified SDVBRecorder.ini as well.

I'm getting close just want to compare with a working ini.

Thanks Anders, Yoja, and Insomniac for all your help!!!!

[nox71]

Hey i made it i was able to use my Twinhan 1020a DVB-S card work with SageTV
and i am verry happy with that except for two thing that someone can help me with it: 1. When in TV guide on in Live TV i can't use the numeric key on the remote to change channel when i tried for example to go to channel 520 i press first the 5 and it appear on the screen but when i press the 2 everything disappear like and nothing happen 2. When just changing channel i got some freezing of the picture and the sound for the first minute and sometime time during viewing after that (note: i am using a MediaMVP maybe it this the issue)or maybe the lot of collision i got on my hub is causing the problem (before using SDVBRecorder everything during live tv was working fine.

For the rest i must say to all you who made this plugin (Anders and Yoja) thanks you !!!

[dooferlad]

Hi,

I have been considering giving DVB-T a go. I just have a few of questions:

1. is it possible in Windows 2000? Are BDA drivers supported?
2. Do I need DVB core, in which case where do I get it?
3. Anyone using a USB DVB-T device? I only have one PCI slot so I will have to go USB, but knowing that someone has it working would be nice! I was thinking of a Nova-T USB2, but apparently it only works under Windows XP. Anyone using a USB device under 2k?

Thanks

[AndersNolberger]

1. SDVBCoreRecorder does not support BDA but I think it will work in Windows 2000. It is based on a really old version of DVBCore so many newer cards does not work at all.
2. There is a version of DVBCore in the zip file but the slighlty newer one that works better is not available any more.
3. I don't know about USB devices but it should work in SBDARecorder if there are BDA drivers for your device.

Take a look at SBDARecorder. There is an early beta available from http://www.nolberger.se that might work. The problem is to find a working combination of filters. I am about to complete a new version of SBDARecorder soon now. I am aslo hoping that there will be support for TS-files in Sage so that the third party filters wont be needed.

[KrisAcker]

Originally Posted by AndersNolberger

I am aslo hoping that there will be support for TS-files in Sage so that the third party filters wont be needed.

Anders,

Did you catch this post from Narflex? http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...&postcount=129

[AndersNolberger]

Yes I have read that.

[insomniac]

so Ill be the first to ask...Seems that v3 broke sdvbrecorder for me. Anyone else?

[peterjb]

It appears to be a bug related to playback in the beta. In my case, The files are being written correctly as I watch & change channels but the resultant files are not being rendered correctly by SageTV. They can be played subsequently by media player/WinDVD with no issue - so there is no problem with the actual files.

I've validated this with the MyTheatre Network Encoder plugin I've been working on and it exhibits exacty the same behaviour as SDVBRecorder.

Cheers

Peter