DVB-S/T/C Support

[DFA]

Anders:

Could I give you a penny for your thoughts? At your convenience, could you review this thread here and comment on if you think this can be accomplished along the same lines as the DVB project?

Thanks and Regards,

Dane

[dvdgorila]

Originally Posted by insomniac

FWIW. I dont know much about the LOF1 SW LOF2 stuff, but this is what works best for me with my legacy twin:

sat 119 - LOF1 11250000 SW 0 LOF2 11250000 ----> CSW-LNB1
sat 110 - LOF1 11250000 SW 0 LOF2 11250000 ----> CSW-LNB2

check the dvbn site for the correct lof settings i think one of your lnbs should have a different number.

[audballz]

Can someone help me find that version of dvbcore or possibly PM me. I'ts no longer on www.dvbcore.com

Thanks in advance....

[DaMan0007]

I am trying to get DVB-S Support working with my Hauppauge Nexus-s and I am wondering if anyone can post a sample ini file for satellite. I just want to make sure my settings are correct.

Thanks

[taylormadearmy]

Hi Guys

Should this plugin work with BDA drivers? I want to use BDA drivers with my Hauppauge Nova-T so I can try out Media portal which now supports DVB.

ta ta!
K

[CarlG]

I've been searching everywhere for 3.12 with no avail I did manage to get my hands on 2.76 tho....which should work right guys?

One other thing i was wondering is if it would be easier (or even possible) to plug the A/V outs from the Nexus-s into the plextor m402u and have sage control the channel switching and instead of using the hardware encoder on the nexus to just use the plextor for recording? Looking forward to your thoughts....

Carl

[insomniac]

I just wanted to throw out an SOS for anyone that knows Delphi and has knowledge of DVB-S. I am aware that Yoja has beeen gracious enough to share his modifications to Anders source, that works by using AVBroadcaster to change channels; BUT, it just doesnt work reliable enough to use in sage (Very intermittent channel change, wont switch satellites well. Cannot rely on it to happen on scheduled recordings).

After speaking with Anders, he stated that he prepared for DVB-S but did not know all the values, so he did not add it.

Can we either help him to add these values to his source (or PeterJB's newest)??

What I know:

Below is an example of a working DishPro LNB Transponder.ini file. There are two different lists because the Dish has a built in Digital switch. In order to scan them, you need to setup two different satellites in something such as MT, etc, and scan them.

0=29 -- How many Transponders to scan

[SATTYPE]
1=0160
2=EStar 110
[DVB]

0=29
1=12224000,V,20000000,201,120,94
2=13362000,H,20000000,252,120,94
3=10752125,V,20000000,203,120,95
4=12268000,H,20000000,-1,0,18
5=12282000,V,20000000,205,120,93
6=12297000,H,20000000,-1,0,19
7=12311000,V,20000000,207,120,93
8=13274000,H,20000000,258,120,100
9=12339375,V,20000000,209,120,94
10=13245000,H,20000000,260,120,100
11=12370000,V,20000000,211,120,94
12=13216000,H,20000000,212,120,93
13=12399000,V,20000000,213,120,94
14=13187000,H,20000000,214,120,93
15=12428000,V,20000000,215,120,94
16=13158000,H,20000000,216,120,93
17=12457000,V,20000000,217,120,94
18=13128625,H,20000000,218,120,93
19=12486000,V,20000000,219,120,93
20=13100000,H,20000000,220,120,93
21=12516000,V,20000000,221,120,94
22=13070375,H,20000000,222,120,94
23=12545000,V,20000000,223,120,94
24=13041000,H,20000000,224,120,94
25=12574000,V,20000000,225,120,94
26=13012000,H,20000000,226,120,93
27=12603000,V,20000000,227,120,93
28=12632000,V,20000000,229,120,99
29=12661000,V,20000000,231,120,99
___________________________________

[SATTYPE]
1=0100
2=EStar 119
[DVB]

0=21
1=12224000,V,20000000,-1,0,18
2=12239000,H,20000000,-1,0,18
3=12253000,V,20000000,-1,0,18
4=13332750,H,20000000,4,120,94
5=12282000,V,20000000,75,80,69
6=13304000,H,20000000,6,120,92
7=12311000,V,20000000,77,80,69
8=13275000,H,20000000,8,120,93
9=12341000,V,20000000,-1,0,18
10=13245000,H,20000000,10,120,92
11=12370000,V,20000000,11,120,93
12=13216125,H,20000000,12,120,93
13=12399000,V,20000000,13,120,94
14=13187000,H,20000000,14,120,93
15=12428000,V,20000000,15,120,93
16=13158000,H,20000000,16,120,93
17=12456250,V,20000000,17,120,93
18=13129000,H,20000000,18,120,92
19=12486000,V,20000000,19,120,93
20=13100000,H,20000000,20,120,91
21=12514625,V,20000000,21,120,93

Now from Anders SDVBRecorder.ini file, I see framework for some of these settings, but not all. listed below is a snip from his ini:

[Satellites]
0=terrestrial

; Transponders (Channels) with settings
;
; SatNo - Satellite Number
; Freq - Transponder Frequency ( MHz )
; Polarization - OFF/VERT/HORZ (DVB-S)
; OR Bandwidth - 6/7/8/AUTO (DVB-C & DVB-T)
; QAM - QAM Demodulator 6/32/64(DEFAULT)/128/256 ( DVB-C & DVB-T )
; SymbolRate - SymbolRate of Transponder ( DVB-C & DVB-S )
;
; Transno=SatNo|freq|Polarization or Bandwidth|QAM|SymbolRate
;
[Transponders]

0=0|474000|8
1=0|522000|8
2=0|554000|8
3=0|642000|8

So if you were to deduct what settings need to be added for DVB-S, would it look something like this?

1=12224000|VERT|20000000|201,120,94 //first line from my above DishPro.ini

I dont know what 201,120,94 would stand for, but the rest should be close to correct...

standard configurations for DVB below:

LOF1=9750000 (to my knowledge,not necessary with DishPro LNB)
SW=11700000 (to my knowledge,not necessary with DishPro LNB)
LOF2=11250000 (necessary with DishPro LNB)

What other kind of information would be necessary to get DVB-S support directly in Anders's app? Can this be done?

HeeLLLLP!??!

[CarlG]

Foolio...when/if you make the How-To-Guide please make it a SageDVB for dummies, maybe even Sage DVB for retards(like me lol).I thought I wouldn't have much of a problem getting it going, until I got to the text files part then i suddenly realized how much of a n00b i really am. I must say, I am VERY impressed by you people as far as what you all can do with it. The STV's are fantastic too-my hats off to you guys. I don't even know where the hell to start
Where do you guys learn this programming stuff? I'd like to know what's involved, so that maybe I could go fishing myself instead of looking for dropped fish on the shore Lol But if you all have 8 years of university and 10 years of work experience in the field I think I'll just keep patrolling the beach

Question...do you need MT to be working before this can happen? I have ProgDvb and VRemote working pretty good so i just stuck with that...it was quite awhile ago but I tried setting up MT and I couldn't get the satellites to scan for nothin so I just stuck with ProgDvb.

Edited to add: What Insomniac said Lol

[insomniac]

what LNB's do u have? DishPro? Legacy? What sats are you trying to scan? If its DishPro, the ini's above will help you. Are you using Yoja's modifications? If not, thats your problem. Go find Yoja's post for how to get going with DVB's.

What im trying to get backing on is to get native DVB-S support in Anders SDVBRecorder (and not user AVBroadcaster to change channels). Its just too problematic.

I.

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by insomniac

what LNB's do u have? DishPro? Legacy? What sats are you trying to scan? If its DishPro, the ini's above will help you. Are you using Yoja's modifications? If not, thats your problem. Go find Yoja's post for how to get going with DVB's.

What im trying to get backing on is to get native DVB-S support in Anders SDVBRecorder (and not user AVBroadcaster to change channels). Its just too problematic.

I.

One is a dishpro and one is a directv lnb...and I'm aimed at echostar 110 and 119. Thanks bud, I didn't realize Yoja made a post to get the DVB going, I was trying to make do with Andersnoblegers' DVB support thread :/ Maybe I can get this thing going after all then Sage won't work with both sattellites though, will it?

[insomniac]

Foolio,

I could use your help getting more reliable results with DVB-S (Yoja's). I am up and running, but not well using SDVB. In MT, on the other hand, I have a 100% working results. The only thing that I can think of is that Im just missing some hidden configuration, etc..

I am using the fastmux false setting. Whats your processor speed? I hear that if your running on an fast intel processor, that there are some problems with getting DVBCORE to change channels reliably.

Any suggestions?

I.

[Yoja]

Maybe it’s much easier to make a plugin for MyTheatre that does
the Job for DVB-streaming to SageTV

Just an idea, anyone?

[insomniac]

Yoja,

It seems that you pretty much have a good foundation on what you have already done. Wouldnt it be easier to figure out how to pass commands direct to the core instead of AVBroadcaster? Dont get me wrong, I love that you did anything at all. Unfortunately, no matter what I do, I cannot make it work reliably.

On the flipside, I would buy a MT license in a heartbeat, if such a plugin was to be made.

Just a thought..

I.

EDIT:

Just afterthought..

But after looking at your source, I could nto find anywhere where you passes LOF AND SW info. Is that stuff not necessary(only for scanning). If so, would you only have to throw dvbcore compliant commands for the channel change and the core will take care of the rest?

Also,

Im trying to get this to work with a DishPro Twin and or a Legacy Twin. Both of these have built in switches(i read everywhere this is problematic). Are you running single or dual LNB's with DISEQC switches? Running well? Im willing to go buy some hardware if it is.

BTW: I love the fact that it queries the channels.mdb!

I.

Originally Posted by Yoja

Maybe it’s much easier to make a plugin for MyTheatre that does
the Job for DVB-streaming to SageTV

Just an idea, anyone?

[CarlG]

My Theatre and Sage is working like crap with my Nexus-s...the channel changing is horrible, but I believe my diseqc sw(spacecrap) is giving me the biggest problem. The weird thing is it works flawless with Progdvb. My lnb facing Echo 110 is a dual lnb legacy (I think?? Came with the dish and receiver) so i don't know if that my be part of it too. Another thing I'm wondering is if it could be that I have all but one Pci slot filled with a Pvr250, Promise Sataraid controller, Audigy 2 sound, and of course the dvb-s. Along with that I got a plextor M402U plugged into the usb2. If you guys figgur that's too much I'll start ripping my computer apart but in this day and age of computers i dont think it should be ??

This thread gets me all gitty because I know it's just a matter of time knowing how clever you all are When this all works nice I'm gona have a feeling similar to being a rooster in a house full of hens lol. Thanks to everybody who has put work into this and Sage in general....where would we be without you

[insomniac]

Just wanted to throw it out there that I will donate $30 to whomever comes up with a solid, working DVB-S plugin.

Yoja's effort was great towards getting DVB-S working, but it just plain doesnt work for me. If others out there are willing to make donations towards teh DVB-S cause, now is the time to pipe up!

I.

[CarlG]

I'll match your offer Insomniac And I'll throw another $40 to the person who can come up with a solution that allows sage to control the channels on a dvb-s card, while the plextor convertx handles the recording (if this is even a reasonable request ). Yup, I'd be willing to spend some $ on these, and if Paypal is an option I'd pay the same day i disover and test the masterpiece If paypal isn't an option I suppose I'll have to send a money order...I promise you I will cough up the dough though. Good job Insomniac

Carl G

[hoep]

just my $30 - bump

[heffe2001]

Would it not be easier to have a plugin for MyTheater that Sage can control? Then the system would work with any board/signal that MyTheater can control, and should be version independent, as long as the plugin loads & works under whatever version they have out. Wouldn't this fix the requirement of having the .12 version?

[insomniac]

Guys and Girls,

We need to start taking a tally on what hardware people are running. And more importantly, what configurations work and what do not! Please share your exp with DVB.

My config:

Skystar2 2.6c w/ modified 4.28 drivers
2 Dish500's (1 with a DishPro Twin, 1 with a Legacy twin). Both built in switches.
Yoja's modified sdvbrecorder
LOF1 - 11250000 (for the legacy only)
SW - 0
LOF2 11250000

This config just simply doesnt work. I do get random channel changes, but it sticks on transponders and doesnt want to switch satellites. This is mostly because im running the Twin LNB's.

Testing next week:

DishPro single LNB's (one for 110, one for 119) ---> pansat 4x4 Disecq switch ---->Skystar2 + signal amplifier if necessary.

What works for you?

I.

[insomniac]

yea your confused

what we want is the dvbcore (which already has support for DVB-S) to change the channels on the card natively instead of through a plugin. Sounds simple, but I do not know Delphi. I have taken a look at the source and understand the changes needed to be made, just cant dedicate the time to figure it out by trial and error!

The recording is handled by software and the card, Carlg. No other capture devices are necessary.

I.

Originally Posted by CarlG

I'll match your offer Insomniac And I'll throw another $40 to the person who can come up with a solution that allows sage to control the channels on a dvb-s card, while the plextor convertx handles the recording (if this is even a reasonable request ). Yup, I'd be willing to spend some $ on these, and if Paypal is an option I'd pay the same day i disover and test the masterpiece If paypal isn't an option I suppose I'll have to send a money order...I promise you I will cough up the dough though. Good job Insomniac

Carl G