Open Source FAQ Discussion

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by dinki

Andy,

I just updated v7.1 to v9 and had to jump around to a few different places to find all the files needed. I figured I'd document what I did and perhaps it would be useful to others. Perhaps you can use it, or pieces of it, for the FAQ. I did a clean install of v7.1 and updated from there:

How to update v7.1 to v9:

1. Install v7.1 or start with a v7.1 system. Be sure to make a backup of your SageTV directory if updating.
2. Close SageTV and make sure the service is stopped via the SageTVServiceControl.exe application
3. Download the v9 windows exe files and overwrite the existing files in your SageTV install directory. These files can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
4. Download the v9 sagetv.jar and overwrite the existing file in your SageTV install directory. This file can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
5. Download the lucene-core file and copy/overwrite it in your SageTV install's jar directory. This file can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV\JARs . Hint: You need to click 'View Raw' to start the download.
6. Optional: If you have a valid SageTV license, you can follow these steps to set an environment variable to access EPG data provided by Google.
7. Start SageTV and browse to Setup->System Information and check that your Software Version is SageTV V9.0.0.4

An added step for those upgrading, remove the Lucene plugin and make sure any existing lucene jar files are removed from the SageTV\JARs folder.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by dinki

Andy,

I just updated v7.1 to v9 and had to jump around to a few different places to find all the files needed. I figured I'd document what I did and perhaps it would be useful to others. Perhaps you can use it, or pieces of it, for the FAQ. I did a clean install of v7.1 and updated from there:

How to update v7.1 to v9:

1. Install v7.1 or start with a v7.1 system. Be sure to make a backup of your SageTV directory if updating.
2. Close SageTV and make sure the service is stopped via the SageTVServiceControl.exe application
3. Download the v9 windows exe files and overwrite the existing files in your SageTV install directory. These files can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
4. Download the v9 sagetv.jar and overwrite the existing file in your SageTV install directory. This file can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
5. Download the lucene-core file and copy/overwrite it in your SageTV install's jar directory. This file can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV\JARs . Hint: You need to click 'View Raw' to start the download.
6. Optional: If you have a valid SageTV license, you can follow these steps to set an environment variable to access EPG data provided by Google.
7. Start SageTV and browse to Setup->System Information and check that your Software Version is SageTV V9.0.0.4

Great job posting this took me a while to find all the parts. This makes it a lot easier ... it was all over the place.

[dinki]

I agree. I think it would be great if it was all hosted at bintray. I'm sure this is all temporary until a working installer is created for Windows.

[Opus4]

Yes, thanks for some of those links; also saves me looking for them again. I'll probably move a few posts from the middle of discussions to their own new sticky topics for the time being too.

Andy

[jm9843]

Also see my signature for a mini-guide of sorts. It includes everything mentioned here with a little more detail I think.

[QueOnda]

For the FAQ but don't know the answers:

What's the difference between V7 and v9?
What projects (forks?) are current are from going open source?
Guide data with and without a key
Documentation
Operation systems
Can I use a windows product key for a Linux (before you couldn't)

[Monedeath]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

An added step for those upgrading, remove the Lucene plugin and make sure any existing lucene jar files are removed from the SageTV\JARs folder.

Upgrading users with a valid license key(existing users) already applied prior to upgrading also have no need to switch out the executable files and are unlikely to need to do anything in the registry.(But as already demonstrated it does happen)

But as the FAQ is geared for the people who are new to sage, and as such have no key to apply, valid enough. Except they have no need to edit the registry as they have no valid key for EPG services.(And will need to be directed to a EPG data service provider that works on SageTV instead)

Although there might be grounds for two sets of instructions for upgrading/installing being posted. One for the people who have keys for the old commercial version, and another set for new users.

[trallyus]

Quick Question for folks is the newer V9 of Sage TV Stable as I was using it and had to uninstall sage TV and reinstall V7 due to V9 no longer would open when I clicked the icon.

It may have been due to me updating Java the day before without shutting down sage tv before the update but I was not sure.

I thought I would ask since last I saw Narflex said it was still beta and may still cause problems last I read.

Thanks for the exact writeup on how to update as well and I assume many folks are using V9 now since when I reinstalled Sage TV V7 I had no problems getting the guide data like I used to in the past

[sdsean]

Perhaps I've not searched extensively enough. . ..but is the source code hosted online yet? I can get the setup done easily enough to move to new, but I wanna write some code :P (and thanks for the API docs link!!).

[QueOnda]

Originally Posted by sdsean

Perhaps I've not searched extensively enough. . ..but is the source code hosted online yet? I can get the setup done easily enough to move to new, but I wanna write some code :P (and thanks for the API docs link!!).

I think this is it: https://github.com/google/sagetv

[Monedeath]

Originally Posted by trallyus

Quick Question for folks is the newer V9 of Sage TV Stable as I was using it and had to uninstall sage TV and reinstall V7 due to V9 no longer would open when I clicked the icon.

YMMV, 9.0.0.3 itself has been stable for me after it finished a weird settling in phase of about 12 hours after updating from version 7 to version 9.

[sdsean]

Well I am moving (we just bought a new house) so maybe I'll do it too. . .but then again at least I can look at some code . . .(freaking hate git though. . . ;-) )

[trallyus]

Originally Posted by Monedeath

YMMV, 9.0.0.3 itself has been stable for me after it finished a weird settling in phase of about 12 hours after updating from version 7 to version 9.

Thanks Monedeath as I may try it again

[Opus4]

Using some of the info posted above, I finally added the FAQ for: How do I install the open source version of SageTV on Windows?

Anyone see problems with it?

For Linux users: are the steps really any different?

Thanks.

Andy

[BobbyDing]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

An added step for those upgrading, remove the Lucene plugin and make sure any existing lucene jar files are removed from the SageTV\JARs folder.

Originally Posted by dinki

Andy,

I just updated v7.1 to v9 and had to jump around to a few different places to find all the files needed. I figured I'd document what I did and perhaps it would be useful to others. Perhaps you can use it, or pieces of it, for the FAQ. I did a clean install of v7.1 and updated from there:

How to update v7.1 to v9:

1. Install v7.1 or start with a v7.1 system. Be sure to make a backup of your SageTV directory if updating.
2. Close SageTV and make sure the service is stopped via the SageTVServiceControl.exe application
3. Download the v9 windows exe files and overwrite the existing files in your SageTV install directory. These files can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
4. Download the v9 sagetv.jar and overwrite the existing file in your SageTV install directory. This file can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
5. Download the lucene-core file and copy/overwrite it in your SageTV install's jar directory. This file can usually be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV\JARs . Hint: You need to click 'View Raw' to start the download.
6. Optional: If you have a valid SageTV license, you can follow these steps to set an environment variable to access EPG data provided by Google.
7. Start SageTV and browse to Setup->System Information and check that your Software Version is SageTV V9.0.0.4

Are all of these also required for upgrading a client pc (the server is already V9)?
.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by BobbyDing

Are all of these also required for upgrading a client pc (the server is already V9)?
.

Yes, the client needs pretty much the same thing. There's actually not much difference between a client install and a server install.

[Monedeath]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yes, the client needs pretty much the same thing. There's actually not much difference between a client install and a server install.

Except after doing the server install, the download part is already done.

Also in the event of clients that are being upgraded from an existing install and licensed under SageTV7, the exe's don't need to be swapped as of yet. (Which is the case with the server as well come to think of it in regards to exe files)

[wayner]

Can I suggest that the FAQ suggest discuss SageTV extenders and other types of potential clients for SageTV, like Android.

Also mention whether the OS version of Sage will ever be able to run on HDX00 extenders.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by wayner

Can I suggest that the FAQ suggest discuss SageTV extenders and other types of potential clients for SageTV, like Android.

Also mention whether the OS version of Sage will ever be able to run on HDX00 extenders.

What exactly do you suggest get added? Currently, you can use the same extenders and clients as before. And I doubt there will ever be a firmware update for the extenders, but they should continue to work as they do now.

Andy

[wayner]

Can you currently use an HD200 or HD300 to connect to a Sage V9 server? I don't think you can. That will make it hard for me to move to V9 as I have 9 extenders to replace.

I would also add something like (assuming that this is correct):
SageTV is currently being actively developed for Linux, Windows and Android. Once it is a little more mature it is expected that SageTV will also be ported to run on OSX and non-Intel Linux platforms like the Raspberry Pi.