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Old 04-16-2012, 07:53 PM
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Any news on making sagetv work on boxee???
We have not done any further work. The Boxee dev environment is a bear to work with so I moved on to other things.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:25 AM
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Second problem is with the Plex server, as it uses the "User" directory on Windows.
You can get around this limitation by moving the Plex folder from the User directory to a different drive and creating a symlink to the new folder. See this post on the Plex forums.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:01 AM
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We have not done any further work. The Boxee dev environment is a bear to work with so I moved on to other things.
So you are working on a different platform to be converted to a Sage client?
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:51 AM
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So you are working on a different platform to be converted to a Sage client?
Some months ago a group of us got together and did a proof of concept for a Boxee App that worked as a Sage client. It went very well and we came up with a functional client but we never progressed any further. (See previous posts in this thread.)

Personally I did not feel there was a big demand for it. If there was I would put more time into development.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:46 AM
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...I helped a bit with this (minor help compared to the amazing work that Tom did) but it was 100% a bear to work with!

That being said Check out the work I did with Brian on Plex. Its a slick and clean, easy to setup solution that will allow you to extend the SageTV to more tvs. it will NOT give you LiveTV, or EPG access, and currently will not Sync watched/unwatched statuses Back to Sage...but still has some super cool stuff.

check it out:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57842
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:10 AM
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Doesn't playback on the Roku devices require transcoding? If so that can hardly qualify in the good to excellent range.

Martin
I'm the first to admit that transcoding isn't always ideal but a lot depends on the transcoder itself as well as the target device. The newer Roku 2s + Plex's transcoder delivers "pretty good to excellent" playback in my experience.

Plex's transcoder is the first one I've used that will do 1080i/ts (from HD-PVR recordings) playback to my iOS devices, for example. (I never could get Orb to work for those recordings and while I haven't tried in a long while, neither did AirVideo).
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:37 AM
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Way overpriced - compared to what? It starts at $50 - which is what you would pay for two USB cables at Best Buy.
Which is why I never buy USB cables at Best Buy!

I'M just saying that if it played MPEG2 for $50 (or $100 for the better ones) it would be worth it, but without MPEG2, you would be better off paying a bit more.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:57 PM
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I'm the first to admit that transcoding isn't always ideal but a lot depends on the transcoder itself as well as the target device. The newer Roku 2s + Plex's transcoder delivers "pretty good to excellent" playback in my experience.
Maybe we are talking different things, playback quality vs playback. To me "playback" is being able to navigate quickly , jump, seek, and skip accurately in the entire file and support my PVR requirement to resume, and comskip, and support all if this in records and in LiveTV in-progress recordings.

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Old 04-17-2012, 05:06 PM
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Way overpriced - compared to what? It starts at $50 - which is what you would pay for two USB cables at Best Buy.
www.monoprice.com for all your cabling needs!

When I got my Galaxy Nexus from Verizon I wanted a second usb-micro-usb cable so I could use my old phones charger at work and keep the one that came with my Nexus at home.
The robbers at Verizon wanted $19.95 for a 3' cable. I literally laughed and walked out of the store.

I got a better cable (Gold plated connectors with a ferrite core) for around 75 cents with $2.50ish 3 day shipping.

Back a while I upgraded my TV's and bought a half-dozen 6' HDMI cables from MonoPrice for less than one Monster(the only thing "Monster" about them is their price) at BB.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:10 PM
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I know that Monoprice has cables for much cheaper but I was just contrasting that fact that $50-$100 for a media streamer was considered way overpriced when it was what the average person pays for two simple cables.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:29 AM
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I know that Monoprice has cables for much cheaper but I was just contrasting that fact that $50-$100 for a media streamer was considered way overpriced when it was what the average person pays for two simple cables.
And what I'm saying is that the 2 cables you bought for $50 only have a connector on one end, you have to solder the other one on yourself.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:33 AM
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I would never pay that much for cables as I buy them at Monoprice or ebay. My point is simply that the Rokus are not overpriced at $50-$100 and that you can't buy much in the world of home electronics for less than $100.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:28 PM
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Maybe we are talking different things, playback quality vs playback. To me "playback" is being able to navigate quickly , jump, seek, and skip accurately in the entire file and support my PVR requirement to resume, and comskip, and support all if this in records and in LiveTV in-progress recordings.

Martin
I agree.

Roku's playback quality is, IMO, excellent. However, the playback features suck. I've already boxed up the roku I bought just a few days ago and will be returning it soon. It's a shame, because the Plex UI is absolutely gorgeous. But it's not worth it to me anyway to build a client PC running Plex.
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:20 PM
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Some help! Please!!!

I bought a boxee last week. I've got the sage app installed and I can launch it, so I've got sagex installed, configured correctly. got the password setup correctly.

When I try to play something, every time I get "Playback Error" "The media source or file is not accessible."

I've tried a bunch of things.

Initially my sage recordings were mapped to:

t:\sagetv & u:\sagetv

I've shared those folders giving everyone, guest, and my local user all read\write access. I've disabled windows firewall (Windows 7 64Bit)


My folders are shared as \\sage7\saget & \\sage7\sageu

I initially setup the UNC Mappings as
T:,\\192.168.1.90\saget;U:,\192.168.1.90\sageu

Obviously Sage7's IP is 192.168.1.90 and the port has been set as 8181

I've also tried setting unc mapping in sage.

My recording drives are now set to \\192.168.1.90\saget & \\192.168.1.90\sageu

Clients are able to watch recordings. I've restarted sage since making that change. I've removed unc mappings in the boxes sage app. I've disabled my windows firewall.

What am I doing wrong? What other info should I provide?

HELP!!!

Thanks
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:23 PM
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This documentation that Darcilicious put together might help, I know it helped me:

http://code.google.com/p/sagetv-boxe...wToSetupAndUse
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:33 PM
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This documentation that Darcilicious put together might help, I know it helped me:

http://code.google.com/p/sagetv-boxe...wToSetupAndUse
I read every single post in the first 8 pages of this thread. I knew this was somewhere, but hadn't gotten to it yet. Thanks for the direct link. Off to read. wish me luck!
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:38 PM
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I want to try changing my recording path to \\sage7\saget & \\sage7\sageu, but i'm gonna wait a bit. I've got some recordings going on now and don't want to screw them up.
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:44 PM
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I want to try changing my recording path to \\sage7\saget & \\sage7\sageu, but i'm gonna wait a bit. I've got some recordings going on now and don't want to screw them up.
Ok, I may be a bit of an idiot.

I never configured sagex-services. Jetty was configured and is using port 8080. Sagex was using 8181. I've made the change. No change yet, but I'm sure that will require me to restart sage (which needs to wait).

Hope it's this simple...

Edit - Everything else seems to work. I can schedule recordings, view the guide, etc. Can't wait to get this final piece fixed.

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Old 04-19-2012, 08:05 PM
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I'm about ready to give up...



my recording directories are now

t:\sagetv
&
u:\sagetv

directories are shared as saget & sageu

my unc drive mapping is t:\sagetv,\\192.168.1.90\saget;u:\sagetv,\\192.168.1.90

no joy. Same message - Playback Error The media source or file is not accessible.

I changed the jetty & sagex port to 8080 and restarted the webserver and restarted sage. NO joy.

everything else is working except access to the recordings.
Anyone have any ideas?

I've even tried changing the mappings to t:\sagetv\sage7\saget

I'm able to set recordings as watched. I just can't play the recordings via sage on the boxee. I can play them fine through boxee though.

I'm still able to set watched, not watched, don't like, clear don't like. I can't watch and I can't delete. It seems like it has to be a windows permission issue almost.

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Old 04-19-2012, 10:09 PM
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ybrew,

Like you, I had this exact same problem, tried just about everything to fix it, and was also ready to give up. Then, for some reason that I don't recall, I created a new recording directory, stopped Sage, moved a few of my recordings into the new directory, and restarted Sage. I then checked those recordings in the Sage app on Boxee and...Bingo!...they played! I then moved one of the recordings back into the original directory, tried it on Boxee, and it still played!

I ended up moving all my recordings temporarily to the new directory, then back to the original directory (between Sage stops and starts) and now they all work in Boxee.

So my problem seems to have been with pointers in the Sage wiz.bin file, which were cleared up with the moves (or at least reset so that the Boxee app could use them). I don't know if this will help you, but it's worth a shot to give it a try on a recording or two.

Good luck!

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