HDHomeRun (HDHR) Prime + SageDCT

[doncote0]

Last firmware/software before update

http://download.silicondust.com/hdho...s_20110810.exe

[RayN]

I don't know if it will help. There are about 10 beta software updates after that and the latest fixed most of the instabilities with tuners missing on the network and viewing conflicts. Plus, as I understand it, you can't update firmware backwards.

I'm guessing that SageDCT needs updating to work with the latest beta firmware

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by d2globalinc

Looking at SageDCT logs - it is finding the tuners, however they are not showing up in the GUI for selection, etc to build the configuration data for Sage. Hit scan and nothing shows in SageDCT.

attached log

Try 1.9.

[RayN]

babgvant,

Thanks for the amazingly fast response with an update.

Then tuners now appear when I do a scan. I assume that on the new Tuners tab, I'm supposed to enable each of the tuners to a specific pot. Is this correct?

On the Source Details, I see functioning: false

When I do a channel scan, it sees no tuneable channels. Any suggestions?

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by RayN

Then tuners now appear when I do a scan. I assume that on the new Tuners tab, I'm supposed to enable each of the tuners to a specific pot. Is this correct?

On the Source Details, I see functioning: false

Starting with 1.6 when you generate the encoders properties it tracks each tuner and what port it is on. If you already did that, they you don't need to enable them (unless you've disabled them) on the tuners tab.

The important thing is that the port in sage matches the port in the config tool, so the primary purpose of the new tab is to allow you to more easily sync them (i.e. change what SageDCT is using to match what is in SageTV). The service will need to be restarted after any changes are made to the tuners (ports/enable/disable).

Originally Posted by RayN

When I do a channel scan, it sees no tuneable channels. Any suggestions?

I don't think SageDCT supports channel scans.

[RayN]

From the latest log file:


2011/09/21 15:06:09.48 : SageDCT Service start
2011/09/21 15:06:09.59 : SageDCT Service complete start
2011/09/21 15:06:09.90 : Tuner uuid:6AA7A5B3-1FF7-3D25-A617-C3AE89683660 found.
2011/09/21 15:06:09.90 : Device HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13106A69-2 is not enabled
2011/09/21 15:06:10.13 : Tuner uuid:629FDD4E-1640-358F-92E4-A135DAB4F046 found.
2011/09/21 15:06:10.13 : Device HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13106A69-0 is not enabled
2011/09/21 15:06:10.26 : Tuner uuid:766171C7-5B49-3BFF-9E9C-62F71017BB8F found.
2011/09/21 15:06:10.26 : Device HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13106A69-1 is not enabled
2011/09/21 15:06:18.59 : SearchComplete
2011/09/21 15:25:12.32 : DeviceRemoved: uuid:d86235fa-b011-4b33-bba5-f130f5dfb259
2011/09/21 15:25:12.33 : Tuner uuid:d86235fa-b011-4b33-bba5-f130f5dfb259 removed.
2011/09/21 15:45:07.01 : SageDCT Service stop
2011/09/21 15:45:07.02 : SageDCT Service complete stop

It show the tuners not enabled although I enabled them all.

[babgvant]

Did you click "Save" after each change? It looks like there's a bug in the Enable/Disable thing that I will have to fix tonight.

[mechling-burgh]

Has anyone gotten SageDCT to work on windows XP without having to run windows 7. I saw the firewall note on SageDCT site and wasn't sure if it would work because of it?

[KJake]

Originally Posted by Kirby

Well it appears SD fell off the internet, so I will try asking here. Was reading that the Prime has some issues with tuning adapters, is that still the case, or was that early firmware bugs? About to order it and if it has TA issues, then I may opt instead for the Ceton as I have Charter with SDV here.

Just an update that I got the TA today and installed it. It worked out of the box and now I can tune nearly all channels. Premium channels (Starz, HBO, etc) tune, but I can't see/record them since they're set to copyonce. The only issue I have left is that some of the new HD channels introduced to the lineup this month are missing from the Prime's lineup. I've had two 'signals' sent, rebooted, power cycled, etc. The funny thing is that after the first signal they sent, my lineup did change, to reveal all sorts of weird 1000 and 3000 series channels that looked like they should be internal to the system.

Starting to wonder if it is a firmware issue, but holding off on an update until SD's beta and SageDCT are confirmed to play well together.

[doncote0]

Originally Posted by RayN

Plus, as I understand it, you can't update firmware backwards.

As an IT professional, I back rev firmware occasionally. The Silicondust people could put in restrictions to prevent an easy back-rev of the HDHR and HDHR Prime, but I don't see why they would, especially with beta software.

It makes sense to allow back-rev of firmware especially with a beta firmware release. Most firmware, including your computer's firmware, will allow a back-rev if the right instructions are issued.

Moot point since babgvant rev'd SageDCT.

[RayN]

babgvant,

I got the configuration to the point that Sage sees 3 tuners as functioning, but I still get a No Signal message when I tune a channel.

Latest Log File

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2011/09/21 16:28:15.94 : SageDCT Service start
2011/09/21 16:28:16.05 : SageDCT Service complete start
2011/09/21 16:28:16.35 : Tuner uuid:6AA7A5B3-1FF7-3D25-A617-C3AE89683660 found.
2011/09/21 16:28:16.36 : Add Static Network Encoder for uuid:6AA7A5B3-1FF7-3D25-A617-C3AE89683660 on 6976
2011/09/21 16:28:16.36 : SageDCTTuner tuner port: 6976 tunerDevice: HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13106A69-2
2011/09/21 16:28:16.59 : Tuner uuid:629FDD4E-1640-358F-92E4-A135DAB4F046 found.
2011/09/21 16:28:16.59 : Add Static Network Encoder for uuid:629FDD4E-1640-358F-92E4-A135DAB4F046 on 6978
2011/09/21 16:28:16.59 : SageDCTTuner tuner port: 6978 tunerDevice: HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13106A69-0
2011/09/21 16:28:16.72 : Tuner uuid:766171C7-5B49-3BFF-9E9C-62F71017BB8F found.
2011/09/21 16:28:16.72 : Add Static Network Encoder for uuid:766171C7-5B49-3BFF-9E9C-62F71017BB8F on 6981
2011/09/21 16:28:16.72 : SageDCTTuner tuner port: 6981 tunerDevice: HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13106A69-1
2011/09/21 16:28:25.09 : SearchComplete

[TimmyToo]

Originally Posted by doncote0

As an IT professional, I back rev firmware occasionally. The Silicondust people could put in restrictions to prevent an easy back-rev of the HDHR and HDHR Prime, but I don't see why they would, especially with beta software.

It makes sense to allow back-rev of firmware especially with a beta firmware release. Most firmware, including your computer's firmware, will allow a back-rev if the right instructions are issued.

Moot point since babgvant rev'd SageDCT.

According to SD they are not allowed to downgrade the firmware as part of the Cable Labs certification.

[TimmyToo]

Originally Posted by jsiemon

Everything was running great and like an idiot I upgraded the Prime firmware to the latest 09202011.

Same here with 09202011 and SageDCT 1.7. I wasn't being and idiot though. I'm too old to fix things that are not broke. I was having lockups and stalled recordings.

I will try SageDCT 1.8 tonight when I get home and post results.

[RayN]

TimmyToo

The latest is 1.9
http://babgvant.com/files/folders/sa...ntry19846.aspx

[KJake]

Originally Posted by TimmyToo

According to SD they are not allowed to downgrade the firmware as part of the Cable Labs certification.

Confirming that:
http://www.silicondust.com/forum/vie...?p=58881#58881

[KJake]

Originally Posted by RayN

babgvant,

I got the configuration to the point that Sage sees 3 tuners as functioning, but I still get a No Signal message when I tune a channel.

Did you turn on your Windows Firewall? That fixed the No Signal issue in Sage for me, but I haven't upgraded to the latest Beta yet.

[Kirby]

Originally Posted by TimmyToo

According to SD they are not allowed to downgrade the firmware as part of the Cable Labs certification.

But nothing stops them from taking an older build, giving it the next build number and pushing it as an 'update'.

[RayN]

KJake,

I'm don't know why or how, but turning ON the windows firewall worked! I display all channels now.

One more issue -- two of the Prime tuners show Network Encoder: True in the source detail screen, one shows False. They were all entered the same way and the port numbers in SageDCT match the port numbers in Sage.

[jsiemon]

Installed SageDCT 1.9, regenerated tuner list, enabled Static Ports for each tuner, updated SageTV properties, and bingo all is good so far.

HDHomeRun running 20110920beta1.

Thanks babgvant.

[Skybolt]

Originally Posted by jsiemon

Installed SageDCT 1.9, regenerated tuner list, enabled Static Ports for each tuner, updated SageTV properties, and bingo all is good so far.

HDHomeRun running 20110920beta1.

Thanks babgvant.

Did the same as well. Basc channels working fine.

Thank you babgvant!


EDIT: I should add that I had to manualy enable the tunners in the saved text file, then add to Sage.properties file.
Well done babgvant, thanks again.