HDHomeRun (HDHR) Prime + SageDCT

[jpanywhere]

Originally Posted by mgpaulus

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Comcast Colorado Springs:
I can record all channels I can see EXCEPT: For some reason comcast has "blocked" Encore/EncoreHD channels from my HDHR-Prime/DCT-2650. For that, I plan on keeping one HD-PVR attached to my system.

What version of HDHomeRun are you on? Is it a beta? Are you running SageDCT - 2.2.0? When I first install sagedct I was running 2.2.0 but my HDHomeRun version was firmware from 201201xx I could not get it to work then I upgraded to 20120405 using the same install procedure and it worked well kind of still having that issue with certain channels won't play. Colorado Springs is pretty close to me so just wondering how yours is working.

[stanger89]

So I didn't see much talk on this, is anyone using SageDCT in XP? I got it all set up to the point where it looks like it should work, but it never receives any data from the Prime. But QuickTV can view the same channel just fine. I do not have any firewall enabled on that machine.

[mechling-burgh]

I'm running on windows xp and I and sage had no problem finding the prime. Did you run the sageDCT discovery and copy an paste the info into the property file? After I did that I just copied my firewire channel lineup over and everything worked fine. I was getting some occasional halts in recordings but since I put everything on the same gigabyte switch I haven't any halts. If I get any more halts I have an ssd drive and windows 7 ready to install.

[zoop]

Originally Posted by stanger89

So I didn't see much talk on this, is anyone using SageDCT in XP? I got it all set up to the point where it looks like it should work, but it never receives any data from the Prime. But QuickTV can view the same channel just fine. I do not have any firewall enabled on that machine.

firewall must be enabled to process the RTP stream.... no firewall, no workie

/jer

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by mechling-burgh

I'm running on windows xp and I and sage had no problem finding the prime. Did you run the sageDCT discovery and copy an paste the info into the property file? After I did that I just copied my firewire channel lineup over and everything worked fine.

Yeah all that is fine, it detected just fine, made the prop file entries (which I copied into Sage, and Sage sees it all fine, but SageDCT never gets any data from the Prime, even though it does successfully tune the Prime.

Do you have the firewall enabled?

Originally Posted by zoop

firewall must be enabled to process the RTP stream.... no firewall, no workie

/jer

What the heck, that doesn't make any sense at all. Especially when QuickTV works just fine. I guess I'll turn it on, but it just seems stupid that I have to enable the firewall, then disable everything in it just so data will pass, that enabling the thing that blocks IP traffic makes IP traffic work....

[nyplayer]

Is this the firewall having to be on ... specific to Windows XP. I do not have any firewall enabled on my Windows 7 Sage Server and everything works fine.

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

I do not have any firewall enabled on my Windows 7 Sage Server and everything works fine.

Did you disable the OOTB FW?

[nyplayer]

What is OOTB FW?

[jbuszkie]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

What is OOTB FW?

I'll take a guess.. Out Of The Box FireWall ??

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by jbuszkie

I'll take a guess.. Out Of The Box FireWall ??

Yep

Windows 7 (W7) includes a [pretty good] firewall (FW). Unless you explicitly turn it off, it's just something that runs in the background.

SageDCT's installer will configure the W7 FW during the installation process, so you don't have to.

[nyplayer]

I disabled the built in firewall and do not have any other firewall installed. On any of my boxes.... firewalls are at the router level.

[macsupergeek]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

I disabled the built in firewall and do not have any other firewall installed. On any of my boxes.... firewalls are at the router level.

me too -- windows 7 64bit - windows firewall disabled -- all firewalling done in at router level -- sagedct works just fine.

All this talk must have jinxed me -- one of my ceton cards went down last night -- everytime I try and use it, it reboots. At least their support team is pretty responsive. And its the newer version of the card too 5000 vs 4884.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by stanger89

So I didn't see much talk on this, is anyone using SageDCT in XP? I got it all set up to the point where it looks like it should work, but it never receives any data from the Prime. But QuickTV can view the same channel just fine. I do not have any firewall enabled on that machine.

I'm on XP. I was seeing lots of halts and problems of SageDCT having these odd delays communicating with the Prime (had SD go over the diagnostic logs and Wireshark captures). Disabling XP's Firewall/ICS service (simply turning "off" the firewall was not enough) and installing a third party firewall in its place seems to have fixed that.

I'm also using Andy's "Replace Path" option to have all the Prime tuners writing to a drive directly, bypassing the loopback interface.

[jlmdxtv]

Stanger,

1) I've successfully run SAGEDCT on both XP and Windows 8 *without* the Windows firewall for weeks with hundreds of recordings on each platform.

2) I've never been 100% halt-free with the XP setup though. I switched to Windows 8 preview and haven't any halts on the same equipment (I3, 8GB RAM, Intel 1GB Lan, etc.)

john

[stanger89]

OK, so enabling the firewall made it "work" (haven't tested the quality of the workyness yet), still makes no sense whatsoever though.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by stanger89

OK, so enabling the firewall made it "work" (haven't tested the quality of the workyness yet), still makes no sense whatsoever though.

Maybe the on off switch was installed incorrectly ....

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by stanger89

OK, so enabling the firewall made it "work" (haven't tested the quality of the workyness yet), still makes no sense whatsoever though.

The behavior that some have observed seems to indicate that when the FW is "Off" Windows drops what it believes is unsolicited network traffic. I don't know why this is (frankly, I don't care either since turning the FW off isn't a good idea), it's quite possible that there is something improper with the way SageDCT sets itself up for RTP traffic.

[Sparhawk6]

Well I'm losing hope about getting official support from Sage/Google regarding the demuxer issue. I was told to expect a response within 72 hours, I've heard nothing.

[voorhees]

Originally Posted by Sparhawk6

Well I'm losing hope about getting official support from Sage/Google regarding the demuxer issue. I was told to expect a response within 72 hours, I've heard nothing.

Thanks for the status (I was thinking about asking if you heard anything yet). I also have not received a response to my support request either.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by Sparhawk6

Well I'm losing hope about getting official support from Sage/Google regarding the demuxer issue. I was told to expect a response within 72 hours, I've heard nothing.

And unfortunately, I doubt you will. Even if it affected every one of us, I'm not sure Google would let Jeff & Co. refocus to fix it.

Just another angle on this. If it's not the splitter people were using to produce the smaller clips, all the samples uploaded so far appear to be "damaged" and the program map tables not entirely intact. If the original recordings are like that, that's a problem and the creation of the file is as much to blame as Sage's delicate flower, the demuxer.