New Diamond is displaying folder movie resides in in views?

[sagetv5150]

One more question. Has something fundamentally changed with respect to how the titles get displayed between the std Sage theme and now with Diamond? After several complete reindexes, the only way I can get the titles in Diamond to not include the leading folder path is if I go the BMT route and use the option to remove the leading paths. This works, however it will be some significant effort to get all the correct metadata and fanart now using BMT (a lot of my content filenames weren't named optimally, and so it is quite the manual effort). I'd rather stick with MyMovies for metadata and FanArt (since it is already all setup from my past use of SMM using the std Sage theme). But I'd also like to go with Diamond. A bit of a catch 22 for me.

Is there any other way to remove those leading folder names when using Diamond, other than using BMT? As I mentioned above, I tried relentlessly to completely wipe previous import directories to start from a clean slate (removed existing import directories, unplugged my NAS, rescanned with above paramter set to "true", etc). But the behavior continues, with the only way to remove the leading folder names is using the BMT tool. Note that going back to the std Sage theme using SMM, the titles display perfectly.

Thoughts?

[jorton]

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

One more question. Has something fundamentally changed with respect to how the titles get displayed between the std Sage theme and now with Diamond? After several complete reindexes, the only way I can get the titles in Diamond to not include the leading folder path is if I go the BMT route and use the option to remove the leading paths. This works, however it will be some significant effort to get all the correct metadata and fanart now using BMT (a lot of my content filenames weren't named optimally, and so it is quite the manual effort). I'd rather stick with MyMovies for metadata and FanArt (since it is already all setup from my past use of SMM using the std Sage theme). But I'd also like to go with Diamond. A bit of a catch 22 for me.

Is there any other way to remove those leading folder names when using Diamond, other than using BMT? As I mentioned above, I tried relentlessly to completely wipe previous import directories to start from a clean slate (removed existing import directories, unplugged my NAS, rescanned with above paramter set to "true", etc). But the behavior continues, with the only way to remove the leading folder names is using the BMT tool. Note that going back to the std Sage theme using SMM, the titles display perfectly.

Thoughts?

Just want to confirm, do you have the setting to prefix the file name with the relative path turned off?

See attached.

Jeremy

[sagetv5150]

Originally Posted by jorton

Just want to confirm, do you have the setting to prefix the file name with the relative path turned off?

See attached.

Jeremy

Yes, when using BMT I do indeed. And it seems to work correctly when using BMT exclusively as my fanart/metadata source. My question is more about what if I don't want to use BMT? Can I use the MyMovies Collection manager generated fanart and metadata (.properties files) located in each movie's individual folders (no central fanart), together with Diamond...and not get the leading folder names? I tried using both SMM and BMT together, but it seems like BMT was either trumping my MM metadata, or Diamond simply doesn't leverage the MM metadata. I had the "Phoenx Fanart enabled" setting set to "off" under the Diamond Fanart menu when trying this approach (using MM only).

Maybe I'm just missing something as to how the integration of each of these scrapers should be done?

[jorton]

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

Yes, when using BMT I do indeed. And it seems to work correctly when using BMT exclusively as my fanart/metadata source. My question is more about what if I don't want to use BMT? Can I use the MyMovies Collection manager generated fanart and metadata (.properties files) located in each movie's individual folders (no central fanart), together with Diamond...and not get the leading folder names? I tried using both SMM and BMT together, but it seems like BMT was either trumping my MM metadata, or Diamond simply doesn't leverage the MM metadata. I had the "Phoenx Fanart enabled" setting set to "off" under the Diamond Fanart menu when trying this approach (using MM only).

Maybe I'm just missing something as to how the integration of each of these scrapers should be done?

Plucky would be best to answer this as I use both BMT and MM without any issues but I'm also not trying to use MM metadata. I'm just not sure of the best way, if any, to use MM for metadata with Diamond.

He'll comment when he gets a chance.

J

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

Yes, when using BMT I do indeed. And it seems to work correctly when using BMT exclusively as my fanart/metadata source. My question is more about what if I don't want to use BMT? Can I use the MyMovies Collection manager generated fanart and metadata (.properties files) located in each movie's individual folders (no central fanart), together with Diamond...and not get the leading folder names? I tried using both SMM and BMT together, but it seems like BMT was either trumping my MM metadata, or Diamond simply doesn't leverage the MM metadata. I had the "Phoenx Fanart enabled" setting set to "off" under the Diamond Fanart menu when trying this approach (using MM only).

Maybe I'm just missing something as to how the integration of each of these scrapers should be done?

Yes I use mymovies excluslively for movies with diamond.I do this in testing as I don't see why anyone would not use smm if they are already using mymovies..

[sagetv5150]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Yes I use mymovies excluslively for movies with diamond.I do this in testing as I don't see why anyone would not use smm if they are already using mymovies..

Thx Plucky. Any suggestions where I should look to see why Diamond is so determined to show the folder paths if using SMM with mymovies (logs, state files, etc.)? This doesn't occur with Std Sage theme. Just Diamond. Is it worth trashing the whole install and starting anew? New Wiz.bin, etc (not sure if it houses anything related).

Thx guys. What you have done here is VERY cool.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

Thx Plucky. Any suggestions where I should look to see why Diamond is so determined to show the folder paths if using SMM with mymovies (logs, state files, etc.)? This doesn't occur with Std Sage theme. Just Diamond. Is it worth trashing the whole install and starting anew? New Wiz.bin, etc (not sure if it houses anything related).

Thx guys. What you have done here is VERY cool.

I would wait until next as sage is changing how they store and display the titles and I bet that will correct it.

[sagetv5150]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I would wait until next as sage is changing how they store and display the titles and I bet that will correct it.

Ok, thx Plucky. And I think I understand a bit more now. I should clarify my previous post. The directory paths only show up in the standard Diamond Videos view (coverflow, lists, etc). If I use SMM views, the paths are gone.

So in other words, if I use MyMovies Collection mgmt to generate all the fanart and metadata (.properties files), but I then do NOT install SMM or BMT, the Diamond theme alone always shows the leading directory paths in front of each title. Is this in fact what would be expected with neither SMM or BMT (after using the BMT tool to remove leading directory paths) in the picture? As I thouhgt about it, this has been the case with the std Sage theme too. I guess I thought Diamond had changed this fact?

I just wanted to clarify that what I see is only with base Diamond Videos view.

[RocKKer]

sagetv5150,

I tried several things, ultimately found one of the BMT tools fixed my issue with the relative path titles problem. On the BMT web ui, "Tools" pull down and choose "Remove Relative Path from Titles".

I tried this because I found that saving a movie on the BMT ui, fixed the issue, and this seemed like an innocuous way to do a batch save.

I don't have relative paths stored in my fanart or movie titles (according to BMT), so not sure what BMT fixed but all the Diamond view titles are back to normal!

[sagetv5150]

Originally Posted by RocKKer

sagetv5150,

I tried several things, ultimately found one of the BMT tools fixed my issue with the relative path titles problem. On the BMT web ui, "Tools" pull down and choose "Remove Relative Path from Titles".

I tried this because I found that saving a movie on the BMT ui, fixed the issue, and this seemed like an innocuous way to do a batch save.

I don't have relative paths stored in my fanart or movie titles (according to BMT), so not sure what BMT fixed but all the Diamond view titles are back to normal!

Thx RocKKer. Yes, I found that tool as well. It just means I need to commit to BMT for metadata/fanart (I think?). I was managing everything exclusively with MyMovies.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

Thx RocKKer. Yes, I found that tool as well. It just means I need to commit to BMT for metadata/fanart (I think?). I was managing everything exclusively with MyMovies.

No it doesn't mean this as stated this should be fixed
In the next
Sagetv release.

[voorhees]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

No it doesn't mean this as stated this should be fixed
In the next
Sagetv release.

PLUCKYHD, it looks like I am seeing the same issue and just wanted to understand your comment above and if it is talking about the same thing. If I use my MyMovies metadata (.properties) and fanart everything seems to be working fine in Diamond except I see the relative path for the movie titles in the Diamond views (Image1), but not in the SageTV views (Image2). I have unchecked the "Prefix Videos with Relative path" setting in the BMT configuration settings (Image3), but I am not sure that has any effect on this issue as I am using MyMovies metadata. So in the SageTV view I do not get the relative path and in all of the Diamond Videos Views I get the relative path. It looks like it would be a difference in how Diamond is using the video names versus how SageTV is. Is there a way to get Diamond to not display the relative path like SageTV does when using MyMovies metadata?

Also, your comment above mentions that it is a SageTV problem, but it looks like SageTV properly displays the names. Is the SageTV "fix" you are mentioning going to allow for Diamond to also not display the relative paths when using MyMovies data as SageTV does in the native views?

All in all, I was just wondering if there was a way to use the Diamond views without the relative paths in the video names using MyMovies data?, and I was confused as to your comment that SageTV will "fix" it in the next release? Thanks.

[Gunserotti]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I would wait until next as sage is changing how they store and display the titles and I bet that will correct it.

Im not sure if I have the same problem exactly as described in this thread. I do have the double naming issue: folder name/movie name. I just updated to the new sagetv beta hoping this would fix the problem, but it is still there. I also tried editing the properties file to force reindexing, which also didn't work. I don't have BMT installed so I'm not sure what to try next? BTW I also use my movies for fanart and metadata. Is there any information I can provide to help make a diagnosis and fix? Thanks

[sagetv5150]

Originally Posted by Gunserotti

Im not sure if I have the same problem exactly as described in this thread. I do have the double naming issue: folder name/movie name. I just updated to the new sagetv beta hoping this would fix the problem, but it is still there. I also tried editing the properties file to force reindexing, which also didn't work. I don't have BMT installed so I'm not sure what to try next? BTW I also use my movies for fanart and metadata. Is there any information I can provide to help make a diagnosis and fix? Thanks

I coincidentally also just tried exactly what you tried Gunserotti (new Sage 7.1.8 and forced reindex), and the above behavior with leading folder paths still persists. Sounds like sticking with SMM is the way to go as Plucky suggests in a previous post since we're already using My Movies for fanart and metadata. Although I did like some of the new Diamond UI when browsing movies.

[jorton]

Originally Posted by Gunserotti

Im not sure if I have the same problem exactly as described in this thread. I do have the double naming issue: folder name/movie name. I just updated to the new sagetv beta hoping this would fix the problem, but it is still there. I also tried editing the properties file to force reindexing, which also didn't work. I don't have BMT installed so I'm not sure what to try next? BTW I also use my movies for fanart and metadata. Is there any information I can provide to help make a diagnosis and fix? Thanks

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

I coincidentally also just tried exactly what you tried Gunserotti (new Sage 7.1.8 and forced reindex), and the above behavior with leading folder paths still persists. Sounds like sticking with SMM is the way to go as Plucky suggests in a previous post since we're already using My Movies for fanart and metadata. Although I did like some of the new Diamond UI when browsing movies.

Have you both tried the batch operation in BMT to remove the relative paths?

I have had the same issue on and off over the past few months but running the batch operation in BMT to remove the relative paths cleared this up. I have SMM installed and don't have any issues.

Just a thought. I use both SMM and Diamond and don't have any issues with either.

J

[jorton]

The only reason I suggest this is that I believe that the properties files that MyMovies collection manager are generating are only read at the time of import (please correct me if I am wrong...) and that running the batch operation in BMT to remove the relative paths may correct the issue on the already imported files that are showing the paths in the title.

Like I said I have experienced this on and off and running the batch operation above cleans them up.

Have you looked in any of the MyMovies generated properties files for the movies that show the relative path to see if the path is stored in the title field?

J

[Gunserotti]

Jorton....installed BMT and removed relative paths and it is now working. Thanks

[jorton]

Good to hear

[sagetv5150]

Originally Posted by jorton

The only reason I suggest this is that I believe that the properties files that MyMovies collection manager are generating are only read at the time of import (please correct me if I am wrong...) and that running the batch operation in BMT to remove the relative paths may correct the issue on the already imported files that are showing the paths in the title.

Like I said I have experienced this on and off and running the batch operation above cleans them up.

Have you looked in any of the MyMovies generated properties files for the movies that show the relative path to see if the path is stored in the title field?

J

For that to work though, doesn't BMT need to have a correctly populated set of metadata for each title? Ordinarily that should not be a problem. But I have some seemingly obscure kids programming that has made that quite a manual effort in BMT to get the metadata. I assume once you have it, then what you suggest works great.

Of course as I type this, something weird/great just happened. I uninstalled SMM. Restarted the Sage service. Now the folder paths are gone in the Diamond views?! I tend to think maybe it was just an issue of waiting longer than just the reindex. Maybe some other cleanup was going on. Not sure. Nevertheless, I'm a happy camper. Thank you for the quick replies jorton!

[jorton]

Originally Posted by sagetv5150

For that to work though, doesn't BMT need to have a correctly populated set of metadata for each title? Ordinarily that should not be a problem. But I have some seemingly obscure kids programming that has made that quite a manual effort in BMT to get the metadata. I assume once you have it, then what you suggest works great.

Of course as I type this, something weird/great just happened. I uninstalled SMM. Restarted the Sage service. Now the folder paths are gone in the Diamond views?! I tend to think maybe it was just an issue of waiting longer than just the reindex. Maybe some other cleanup was going on. Not sure. Nevertheless, I'm a happy camper. Thank you for the quick replies jorton!

Not sure what did it for you there but good news. I just know what has worked for me in the past with the paths showing up and how I got rid of them with BMT.

Glad you're working, but you should be able to have SMM and Diamond play nice, Plucky and I use them both.

Jeremy