What is missing from Diamond? We are listening....

[ghost5]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

That's a bit undoable...You don't ever wNt to hide an option that you admit you adjust....sorry it seems cluttered we could put it under another menu but then that is another menu to drill down too.

Sorry I was hoping you could move them to somewhere in the Setup -> Detailed Setup menu

I like trying to keep only basic options in the options menu when playing a video.

Cheers

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by ghost5

Sorry I was hoping you could move them to somewhere in the Setup -> Detailed Setup menu

I like trying to keep only basic options in the options menu when playing a video.

Cheers

we are going to have a universal settings screen but not remove it from there as most like the options where they take place

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

That method should be working if not I would bug it with sage and send some logs and see if they have any advice.

Editing the db directly is not possible. You can do it with the sage api and java.

You can use the sagex API (http://code.google.com/p/customsagetv/wiki/SageTVapi) via HTTP calls from any language you want.

[moothekow]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

You can use the sagex API (http://code.google.com/p/customsagetv/wiki/SageTVapi) via HTTP calls from any language you want.

Cool. Working on trying to figure out how this works. Got everything set up... am able to RETRIEVE metadata information using a command like:

http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Ge...Ted.S01E03.mp4

Now - I can't figure out how to SET media file information.. I can't seem to figure out what to pass in for the first parameter. If I put in a filename - it gave an error parsing an Int.. so I tried something like:

http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Se...itle&3=TestVal
Also tried:
http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Se...itle&3=TestVal

Where I got the 274 from the '<MediaFileID>274</MediaFileID>' field in the GetMediaFileForFilePath function.
And it didn't return any errors but nothing updates.

I also ended up trying:

http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Ev...estValue%22%29

... unescaped:
c=EvaluateExpression&1=SetMediaFileMetadata(GetMediaFileForFilePath("C:\Users\MartyG\Videos\Better Off Ted\Season 01\Better.Off.Ted.S01E03.mp4"),"ShowTitle,"TestValue")

That also returned no errors (or anything) -- but also didn't seem to update the ShowTitle. Anyone have any suggestions?

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by moothekow

Cool. Working on trying to figure out how this works. Got everything set up... am able to RETRIEVE metadata information using a command like:

http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Ge...Ted.S01E03.mp4

Now - I can't figure out how to SET media file information.. I can't seem to figure out what to pass in for the first parameter. If I put in a filename - it gave an error parsing an Int.. so I tried something like:

http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Se...itle&3=TestVal

Where I got the 274 from the '<MediaFileID>274</MediaFileID>' field in the GetMediaFileForFilePath function.
And it didn't return any errors but nothing updates.

I also ended up trying:

http://localhost:8080/sagex/api?c=Ev...estValue%22%29

... unescaped:
c=EvaluateExpression&1=SetMediaFileMetadata(GetMediaFileForFilePath("C:\Users\MartyG\Videos\Better Off Ted\Season 01\Better.Off.Ted.S01E03.mp4"),"ShowTitle,"TestValue")

That also returned no errors (or anything) -- but also didn't seem to update the ShowTitle. Anyone have any suggestions?

The sagex thread would be the better place for this question I use sagex api all the time but through a IDE and not the html so sorry can't help much there.

[moothekow]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

The sagex thread would be the better place for this question I use sagex api all the time but through a IDE and not the html so sorry can't help much there.

Noted.. thanks.. and was about to edit an update that I think I'm making progress... think I might have been using the incorrect property names in some places.

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by moothekow

1) It is using the file's import path instead of the 'Title' i specify in the .properties file for the Title.

2) It is using the series name (which I am storing in the 'Title' or 'MediaTitle') for the 'Episode' field in CMT (which appears to be the 'EpisodeName' when I have CMT generate a properties file).

This is normal for reading properties files for imported media. It's supposed to change to be the same as for recorded videos in the next SageTV beta.

John

[mguebert]

I would love to see parental controls like SMM uses. With the ability to hide movies that a above a given rating level.

[jusjoken]

I tried to summarize all the feedback from this thread so far....

• Guide Favorites, favorite Chanels (+2)
• Touchscreen friendly
• Radio Streaming
• Consistency between TV and Movies views (+1)
• Folders style Diamond view with folders integrated and not just listed first (+2)
• Music Interface (+9)
• Rate movies (star type personal or IMDB style) (+1)
• Complete integration and styling from SMM (+1)
• Jump to command from remote to favorite TV shows
• ABC Jump bar added to TV views
• YEAR Jump bar for when views are sorted by date
• TV Wall View
• Integrated Netflix/Hulu interface
• Dynamic pictures for menus (+2)
• Sports score page like on MCE
• Diamond profiles/settings manager across all/any clients for all settings (+5)
• Custom currently on / upcoming Sports guidelist
• Dynamic Menus with ability to assign custom views to homepage (+3)
• Parental Controls (+1)
• Home Videos View
• More Eye Candy
• Toggle between recordings and scheduled content (like TVExplorer)
• Quick links icon bar like in TVExplorer
• More diamond like flare in other than TV/Movies views
• Online Services menu ala Diamond style (+1)
• Simplified delete menu options (+3)
• Movie sort by running time
• Lighter weight theme for HD100
• More visible "slider/scroll bar" in the recorded TV view
• Full screen details where you can launch/play the show and other functions
• Widgets that list shows should allow click to play (+1)
• Upcomming recordings widget - allow click to goto default Recordings schedule (+1)
• Launch external programs
• Hide the OSD options (reduce menu clutter)
• More simplistic approach to screens like SageMC

Already available in another plugin that works with Diamond items...

• Mini guide
• TV - upcomming movies
• MyTV compatible with Diamond (+2)

Out of Scope items...

• Podcast handling
• Web Browser

k

[cat6man]

hi,

i played around with diamond for a few days.
some things i had trouble with:
1. in tv recordings, single recordings of a show have a group structure that asked me to browse further when there was only one show and the default UI go directly to asking me to play.
2. i thought the large font was not attractive (compared with default UI which has slimmer/nicer looking display on main menu)
3. i couldn't switch between UI at all, as stuff from diamond hung around when i tried to switch back to default UI. i had to uninstall to get back to default UI.

cheers

[hdmkv]

+1 for Home Videos View

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by cat6man

hi,

1. in tv recordings, single recordings of a show have a group structure that asked me to browse further when there was only one show and the default UI go directly to asking me to play.

This was by many request we did this feature. You can simply hit play directly from the main shows screen to play it using the diamond play options (I recommend this even for grouped shows), but we won't be changing the fact it is grouped.

Originally Posted by cat6man

2. i thought the large font was not attractive (compared with default UI which has slimmer/nicer looking display on main menu)

This is changing either anytime soon. MKnat made a stvi for diamond that changes the font check that out if you want. However we don't support that plugin that is up to him.

Originally Posted by cat6man

3. i couldn't switch between UI at all, as stuff from diamond hung around when i tried to switch back to default UI. i had to uninstall to get back to default UI.

You can disable but there is not ondemand switching....

[tonysathre]

I think it would be nice to have more info on the info screens. Would also be cool if we could choose what info is being displayed. I like seeing star ratings, plot, run time, year, etc. Would be a very handy addition. I love Diamond, but sometimes I miss AMIS. I also really liked the tabbed info screen in SMM.

Also, I don't know if this a bug or feature, but when viewing a movie and selecting the option to show other titles that also have a specific actor, it will only show that movie because it's searching for the actors real name, and the person in the movie that they are playing. I believe it's probably just supposed to search by the actors actual name.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by tonysathre

Also, I don't know if this a bug or feature, but when viewing a movie and selecting the option to show other titles that also have a specific actor, it will only show that movie because it's searching for the actors real name, and the person in the movie that they are playing. I believe it's probably just supposed to search by the actors actual name.

That is the defalt we don't and won't modify the search so don't know honestly what is is suppose to do.

[graywolf]

Suggestions which caught my eye would be (in order of preference):

* Dynamic Menus with ability to assign custom views to homepage

* Launch external programs (and tie it in with the Dynamic Menus so they can be placed where wanted)

* Diamond profiles/settings manager across all/any clients for all settings (would this also end up having ALL Diamond option settings in 1 location? if so, then this would be tied for #1 instead of #3)

* Guide Favorites, favorite Chanels

* Integrated Netflix/Hulu interface (thought this was out of scope - or are you referring to integrated PlayOn? in which case this drops off my list)

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by graywolf

* Integrated Netflix/Hulu interface (thought this was out of scope - or are you referring to integrated PlayOn? in which case this drops off my list)

Yeah that is out of the scope. We already integrate with playon content.

[tonysathre]

Have you thought about porting the tabbed info screen from SMM to Diamond?

[cat6man]

Originally Posted by graywolf

Suggestions which caught my eye would be (in order of preference):

* Dynamic Menus with ability to assign custom views to homepage

i'd like this for main and submenus............i want to only show the submenu items i care about............2nd choice would be ability to at least order them

cheers

[carlgar]

I have read very little of the 14 pages of posts so this may have already been mentioned but I doubt it. I suspect they is verly little chance of seeing it anytime soom but you need to start thinking about what it would take to implement. I would like to see some support for people with vision impairment. Sage is currenly useless in this area because programs like the windows Narrator will only read text and not graphics. When I first started thinking about this issue I thought a text based UI was needed. I now realize that is backward thinking. I would like to hear speech from the UI. When I view the list of recordings, I want to hear the name of the show. I do not want to walk closer to the TV to read the screen. I believe the addition of speech would require new hooks in the extenders. I don't expect new week but I do expect it in the next 6 months :-) I know of at one blind person who has been waiting for 5 years to be able to try Sage. They spent 1 year trying to get a special version of Java to work that they thought would be able to read the Sage menus. If I had seen their early posts, I could have let them know it probably would not have worked and it did not.

[jusjoken]

Originally Posted by carlgar

I have read very little of the 14 pages of posts so this may have already been mentioned but I doubt it. I suspect they is verly little chance of seeing it anytime soom but you need to start thinking about what it would take to implement. I would like to see some support for people with vision impairment. Sage is currenly useless in this area because programs like the windows Narrator will only read text and not graphics. When I first started thinking about this issue I thought a text based UI was needed. I now realize that is backward thinking. I would like to hear speech from the UI. When I view the list of recordings, I want to hear the name of the show. I do not want to walk closer to the TV to read the screen. I believe the addition of speech would require new hooks in the extenders. I don't expect new week but I do expect it in the next 6 months :-) I know of at one blind person who has been waiting for 5 years to be able to try Sage. They spent 1 year trying to get a special version of Java to work that they thought would be able to read the Sage menus. If I had seen their early posts, I could have let them know it probably would not have worked and it did not.

I think the idea is intriguing but the audience is likely very small and the work to make it happen may be large... not sure. It might be cool to play with but I think the value would likely be in a SageTV plugin rather than an addition to Diamond specifically. But you would need to understand the approaches taken for these types of impairments as the likely answer is a combination of a change to the visual and audio approach. It would also take a commitment from one or more testers to provide feedback and guidance... overall a rather large task I think.... but interesting none the less.

In my opinion it's outside of what we would want to tackle within the Diamond Team. If users have suggestions for visual tweaks that may assist in reading the screen better feel free to make suggestions and we can look at what it would take to implement.

k