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SageTV Media Extender Discussion related to any SageTV Media Extender used directly by SageTV. Questions, issues, problems, suggestions, etc. relating to a SageTV supported media extender should be posted here. Use the SageTV HD Theater - Media Player forum for issues related to using an HD Theater while not connected to a SageTV server. |
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They are about 45' apart with 2 interior walls separating them. There are some other wireless in the area but they are very low signal. I've been logging into my router and watching the speed/signal however I havent been watching the channel and what it is doing.
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When you are able to test your system without using wireless, then you will know for certain if it is a wireless problem, or some other problem. Dave |
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I've got the same situation (SagePC and Router in the basement, finished basement, cathedral ceiling in the living room where my TV is, so no easy way to route a cable). Anyway, I tested my extender with a 13" portable TV before I went to the trouble of stinging Ethernet cable. Once I was sure it would work, I figured out a way to route the cable that wouldn't require major drywall work (cable goes across the basement, up through the garage, across the attic, down a support column... 100+ feet of cable when the TV is less than 25 feet from the router). I never tested with Wireless-N, but I had previously tried the old MediaMVP (which was only SD, not HD) with Wireless-G and it was hit or miss. Some days I could watch a whole 2-hour movie with no problems, other times I couldn't go more than a minute without pausing, freezing, stuttering. Wireless is affected not only by distance and objects (like walls), but also by interference from other wireless networks (including Bluetooth devices and cordless phones) and also microwave ovens. This type of video streaming is not tolerant of packet loss, so any glitches in the network will be seen during playback.
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Ok, I got a 50' Ethernet cable and directly attached the HD200 to the router. I had to upgrade the HD200 to beta firmware again in order to be able to play Youtube videos. The 2nd video I was playing the HD200 locked up. I noticed that the "active" indicator on the front of the HD200 went out at this time. (not the "net" indicator). About 30 seconds later the active indicator came back on, but the HD200 is non-responsive now. I'll had to unplug it to reboot it and get it to respond again. (If I hit power on the HD200 remote it would turn off, but when I turned it back on it would still be on the same video frame that it was when it had been last on)
Maybe I have a bad extender? Last edited by bclenney; 01-09-2010 at 05:19 PM. |
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What bit rate is required for sustained 1080p content? Does anyone on here know?
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There is no fixed answer to that question, because it depends on the degree of compression used during encoding. Your best bet is to look at how big the file is for a one-hour recording and do the math. So for instance an 8GB file times 8 bits per byte divided by 3600 second per hour works out to about 18 Mbit/s.
But the main point about wireless is that bitrate doesn't tell the whole story. Intermittent noise that doesn't affect your average throughput much can still cause dropouts that manifest as playback hiccups.
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But, you earlier said you thought you were getting 108mbits/sec, presumably using the connection speed on your router. That's actually not a great sign. If you had a good signal, that should be 300mbits/sec. In my case, a 300mbits/sec connection speed on the router corresponds to about 85mbits/sec of actual performance. If you really want to try to get wireless to work, is there any way you can put your HD200 in the same room as your 802.11n, just for testing purposes? |
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A while back, I too was looking into the wireless option, but a few simple wireless tests showed that no way in hell would I be able to watch 1080i over the air without hicups and pauses. I have 2 HD200 watching 1080i just fine and dandy - all hard wired. Last edited by joe123; 01-12-2010 at 12:00 PM. |
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If wired connection is still causing problems then it could very well be bad hardware, whether its the extender, your newotrk router, switch, or bad network cable.
Time to connact SageTV support, give them as much info as possible.
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Yes, it's time to contact support. Sounds like something is wrong with the HD200.
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I'll keep you up to date on what happens. I still have the cable run across my house for testing. In general it seems to work most of the time, much better than with the wireless. I think the lock up on youtube videos may be a separate issue from what I was experiencing before. The only stuttering I've gotten in the last day and a half appears to be when the internet connection can't keep up with the requirements. I can't blame Sage for that one. That doesn't explain the freezing on Youtube videos, so I still have to look into that.
Thanks for listening to my whining session and helping me out. |
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That's what I was saying back in post #29. |
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It sounds trivial, but have you powered down your server and power cycled routers, switches and modems? Whenever I have issues of or relating to YouTube stuttering etc it seems to be the magic pill...
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Yes, I've power cycled all of the different pieces of equipment (many times) and I have all of the STV updates. Yeah Joe, your post is why I mentioned the bandwidth
Hulu performed perfectly tonight, by the way. |
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You seem to now have confirmed that it IS the wireless thats giving you grief (congratulations on having some certainty) and since you have an alternate method to compare to continuously, I'd say you have a decent chance of being able to tweak the wireless to work. I'm good with networks but never liked wireless, and recently I discovered exactly how many configurations can work, but not work *well*.
I'd probably give the wireless tweaking a try and then run cable. (use different ciphers, use different modes, use different channels) as a start. |
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