Need help testing something for PlayOn

[HuMan321]

Originally Posted by robogeek

I think I almost got it now. I was one version behind on the PlayOn software. I installed it less than 2 weeks ago and there was an update that I hadn't installed. I shutdown the PlayOn software/MediaMallServer service and installed the updated PlayOn software. The only other thing I did was disable the Revision3 plugin in PlayOn. Just to be sure PlayOn was running the correct configuration, I shutdown all of the PlayOn software/services, restarted PlayOn and the MediaMallServer service, and then regenerated the xml feeds. After doing this, I can now play my NetFlix Instant Queue...with some audio/video sync issues (on my MediaMVP client), but that's for another topic.

The only other problem I have now is the Hulu user queue from PlayOn doesn't seem to work after updating PlayOn to the latest version. After upgrading PlayOn, this is what I get from upnp2podcast.exe:

C:\Playonsage>upnp2podcast "PlayOn:Hulu:User Queue:+2"
<!--
Debug Log:
Device: ()
Device: WNDR3300 (Gateway)(urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:InternetGatewayDevice:1)
Device: ()
Device: PlayOn (dvr-server)(urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:1)
 * Found PlayOn
Device: WNDR3300(urn:schemas-wifialliance-org:device:WFADevice:1)
Device: Linksys WRT54GS(urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:InternetGatewayDevice:1)
  + Looking For: Hulu
    - Found: Hulu (Hulu)(hulu)
  + Looking For: User Queue
    - Found: User Queue (User Queue)(hulu-0a238a00-cc4f-4b93-a832-46760fc9bd5b)
  + We're Free! (2)()
         + hulu-0a238a00-cc4f-4b93-a832-46760fc9bd5b = User Queue
                 + hulu-f3be0489-fd87-4f93-9e3e-b77c4e59acb0 = Sort By Date
                 + hulu-98d4f85f-ee11-4592-a827-a54d4d4bc62f = Sort By Name
                 + hulu-8ee23e43-cbb4-4a07-b5e9-d93b669193d5 = Sort By Play Orde
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-->

<rss version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
  xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
  <channel>
    <title>User Queue</title>
    <description>User Queue</description>
    <language>en-us</language>
    <itunes:summary>User Queue</itunes:summary>
    <itunes:subtitle>User Queue</itunes:subtitle>
  </channel>
</rss>

Are you running Playon on your WHS Server? If so, did you use the "junction" symlink to the pool?

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by HuMan321

Are you running Playon on your WHS Server? If so, did you use the "junction" symlink to the pool?

Yes, I'm running it on my WHS server. No, I didn't link it to the pool. I've got a little over 6GB free on the C: drive and so far that seems to be OK for testing. It looks like PlayOn is using C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MediaMall as the root location to store the video files. I wish they would make that configurable.

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by robogeek

C:\Playonsage>upnp2podcast "PlayOn:Hulu:User Queue:+2"
+ We're Free! (2)()
+ hulu-0a238a00-cc4f-4b93-a832-46760fc9bd5b = User Queue
+ hulu-f3be0489-fd87-4f93-9e3e-b77c4e59acb0 = Sort By Date
+ hulu-98d4f85f-ee11-4592-a827-a54d4d4bc62f = Sort By Name
+ hulu-8ee23e43-cbb4-4a07-b5e9-d93b669193d5 = Sort By Play Order

You're close, you just didn't dig down enough into the UPnP tree. You'll want

upnp2podcast.exe "PlayOn:Hulu:User Queue:Sort By Name:+2"

with some audio/video sync issues (on my MediaMVP client), but that's for another topic.

Wow, i'm surprised that it kinda works on the MVP, once we've got something more a bit stable I bet Sage could debug those issues and get it working.

[HuMan321]

Here is a link to a "workaround" from their site. I am thinking of trying it after I ask some more questions.
http://www.themediamall.com/faq#cdrive

[gibsonpa]

FYI...

After more fiddling, I got it to work and can watch Hulu and Netflix on my HD100....however it only plays for around 30 seconds...then ends. The timeline/timebar shows the video is only 30 seconds. If you simply retry the same video, it plays for 60 seconds. Basically only 30 seconds more each retry. I think the timeline is not aware of the video length.

[gibsonpa]

Originally Posted by gibsonpa

FYI...

After more fiddling, I got it to work and can watch Hulu and Netflix on my HD100....however it only plays for around 30 seconds...then ends. The timeline/timebar shows the video is only 30 seconds. If you simply retry the same video, it plays for 60 seconds. Basically only 30 seconds more each retry. I think the timeline is not aware of the video length.

QUICK UPDATE: I read elsewhere about removing the trailing .0 millisecond from the XML for the shows...and now the timeline works and it all works!! Woohoo.

However, for now I am just running the UPnP2Podcast manually and piping the output to an XML file manually. Sage is reading that XML and play the shows just fine!

Just wanted to share.

[gibsonpa]

Does anyone know how to get your Hulu queue content using UPnP2Podcast?

Works for Netflix: UPnP2Podcast.exe "PlayOn:Netflix:Instant:Top 50:+2"

Works for a specific show on Hulu: UPnP2Podcast.exe "PlayOn:Hulu:TV Episodes:aily Show:+2"

Not sure what command line parms to get my Hulu Queue....anyone done this yet?

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by gibsonpa

Does anyone know how to get your Hulu queue content using UPnP2Podcast?

Works for Netflix: UPnP2Podcast.exe "PlayOn:Netflix:Instant:Top 50:+2"

Works for a specific show on Hulu: UPnP2Podcast.exe "PlayOn:Hulu:TV Episodes:aily Show:+2"

Not sure what command line parms to get my Hulu Queue....anyone done this yet?

This worked for me last night.

upnp2podcast.exe "PlayOn:Hulu:User Queue:+2"

I also had a message that I had to login from my browser first for Hulu. It had been awhile.

Gerry

[gibsonpa]

Thanks gplasky!! I will give that a try tonight after work.

[drewg]

Originally Posted by gibsonpa

FYI...

After more fiddling, I got it to work and can watch Hulu and Netflix on my HD100....however it only plays for around 30 seconds...then ends. The timeline/timebar shows the video is only 30 seconds. If you simply retry the same video, it plays for 60 seconds. Basically only 30 seconds more each retry. I think the timeline is not aware of the video length.

That sounds like the same problem I had when I was mounting playon via djmount, and trying to browse the server's filesystem on my HD100.

Drew

[drewg]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

Sorry, I forgot to mention I updated the program to not be hardcoded for PlayOn anymore, now you have to specify it.

./UPnP2Podcast.pl 'PlayOn:Hulu:TV Episodes:+2'

Also, I made some modifications to the Net::UPnP .pm files so i'll have to post those as well. It'll work without them, but with them it can grab tons of extra metadata for the files.

I just updated to the latest version of the script, and it seems to be having some slight issues with those UPnp.pm files when run from source on my linux box: Eg:

./UPnP2Podcast.pl 'PlayOn:Hulu:TV Episodes:W:Warehouse 13:+2'
Can't locate object method "getSize" via package "Net::UPnP::AV::Item" at ./UPnP2Podcast.pl line 196.

Drew

[robogeek]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

You're close, you just didn't dig down enough into the UPnP tree. You'll want

upnp2podcast.exe "PlayOn:Hulu:User Queue:Sort By Name:+2"

Thanks, that did the trick.

Wow, i'm surprised that it kinda works on the MVP, once we've got something more a bit stable I bet Sage could debug those issues and get it working.

I think the issue might be with the PlayOn encoding of the NetFlix stream. There seems to be audio issues with NetFlix movies reported recently on the PlayOn forums...mostly no audio at all, but I did see some mention of audio sync issues as well. A couple of short 30 minute Hulu videos played fine with no audio sync issues on my MVP extender.

And a big Thank You to you Evilpenguin and Simonen for your efforts on getting this stuff to work in SageTV!

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by drewg

I just updated to the latest version of the script, and it seems to be having some slight issues with those UPnp.pm files when run from source on my linux box: Eg:

./UPnP2Podcast.pl 'PlayOn:Hulu:TV Episodes:W:Warehouse 13:+2'
Can't locate object method "getSize" via package "Net::UPnP::AV::Item" at ./UPnP2Podcast.pl line 196.

Drew

Here's a zip file containing my modified Net::UPnP .pm files. You should just be able to overwrite your version with these. Then, hopefully, the script will start working.

If you get that working can you do me a favor and use PAR to compile the whole thing into an executable that I can distribute to Linux people?

[hvymetal]

Too bad there is not a port of DJmount for windows. (http://djmount.sourceforge.net/)

DJmount allows you to mount any upnp server as a virtual file system. I was successful in setting it up in CoLinux then sharing the Directory with a samba share to windows. The nice thing is the same folders structure from Playon were viewable in Windows but I was unsuccessful in playing a file directly from the samba share. I was able inside of a Linux console to copy one of the streams to permanent drive. Then I was able to play it in Windows from windows media player. Copying the 30min stream took only a few minutes. I guess it's an easy way in saving Hulu streams to .mpg.

Since Djmount is Linux I would bet money that Sage used it for the stand alone HD200 interface. Any case if Djmount can be ported into a plugin, it would allow any upnp server to be used within SageTv because it would just look like a file systyem. The only problem is Djmount uses the Fuse library which is not available for windows. So if anyone has the time they would have to port it over with Dokan the windows equivalent user mode file system.

[bclenney]

You guys hear of TVersity? It's a free UPnp Server for windows. I admit I dont really understanding what you're doing here, so this may not help at all.

[LehighBri]

Originally Posted by bclenney

You guys hear of TVersity? It's a free UPnp Server for windows. I admit I dont really understanding what you're doing here, so this may not help at all.

Interesting idea.

Scott - if a different UPnP server is installed such as TVersity, would your program be able to handle syntax such as "TVersity:Hulu:TV Episodes:+2"?

Not sure how generic you made it, but that would be pretty amazing if so, and would enable FREE access to Hulu (and other streams such as ESPN) vs. paying for it using PlayOn.

Thoughts?

[dinki]

Originally Posted by LehighBri

Not sure how generic you made it, but that would be pretty amazing if so, and would enable FREE access to Hulu (and other streams such as ESPN) vs. paying for it using PlayOn.

The way I'm reading it, if you want to view Hulu using TVersity, then you need to pay for their pro version $29.95:

Watch premium Internet content on your TV (including full episodes), from sites like Hulu (US only), BBC iPlayer (UK only), Joost, Sling, and many more (a full list of supported sites is available here).

http://tversity.com/pro/

It does sound like a good idea, however, to make this work with TVersity if it isn't much work, but that's real easy for me to say

[bclenney]

Is there any way to get this or something like this to work with Revision3? (http://revision3.com)

I'd love to be able to watch those shows on my SageTV.

Brian

[LehighBri]

Originally Posted by bclenney

Is there any way to get this or something like this to work with Revision3? (http://revision3.com)

I'd love to be able to watch those shows on my SageTV.

Brian

Have you tried the Revision3 plugin for Playon?

[Thomas Wischgol]

Originally Posted by bclenney

Is there any way to get this or something like this to work with Revision3? (http://revision3.com)

I'd love to be able to watch those shows on my SageTV.

Brian

Why don't you just add the rss feeds from revision3 to your custom videos in Sage? This would be a lot easier and probably give you better picture quality at the same time.

Thomas