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Old 03-04-2009, 11:02 PM
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I'm still debating on the either keeping the raw file or transcoding with size vs quality. My question I have right now is with the audio file. I've found out so far that if I use the trueHD the audio wont playback properly. I'm assuming this is because sage isn't able to decode the audio properly at this time but I've read that hopefully in future releases it will offer more support. So is it in my best interest if I do keep the raw file and use tsmuxer to keep both the AC3 and TrueHD audio files?
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:30 AM
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What are you using in your "process"? Only a newest version of TSMuxer (for example) can handle TrueHD without mangling it.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:05 AM
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I'm using version 1.8.8 of tsmuxer. Does that version work okay with the TrueHD audio? If not is that the reason that if I pick the TrueHD audio file for playback why the audio cuts in and out or is just because sage doesn't fully support it at this time?
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:11 AM
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I'm using version 1.8.8 of tsmuxer. Does that version work okay with the TrueHD audio? If not is that the reason that if I pick the TrueHD audio file for playback why the audio cuts in and out or is just because sage doesn't fully support it at this time?
No. You need tsMuxeR 1.8.18 or 1.8.19. With the new tsMuxeR you can keep the True HD track as is and the HD-200 will play it.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:20 PM
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how about dts-hd audio files?
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:35 PM
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how about dts-hd audio files?
I still have to downconvert to DTS and then to AC3 for my TV. I believe the HD-200 will passthrough if downconverted to DTS though. I've had no luck with DTS HD on the HD-200. I tried one day before yesterday that I muxed with only the DTS HD track and it caused the HD-200 to reboot when I tried to play it.
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:05 PM
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yeah doesn't look like the dts hd works right now. I didn't have it restart the hd200 but there was just no audio. For now I will mux both the dts hd and ac3 file in case a future update makes the dts hd compatible.
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Old 03-05-2009, 04:35 PM
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The extender will extract the DTS core from DTS-HD tracks just fine, and pass them out over S/PDIF (as a normal DTS bitsream). It does not however decode DTS, so if you're using analog outputs or PCM, you won't get any audio from DTS-HD tracks.

I've got an ID4 rip that's DTS-HD MA, and I'm 99.9% sure it played fine on my HD200.
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:03 AM
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10-30%? To go from 35-45 gigs to about 20gigs is quite a savings, much more then 10-30%. All for 5 minutes of work, plus the hours on a server that is up all the time anyways. And the server is still usable while it's doing it, uncluding streaming to Sage clients. I'm sure there is a quality loss, there must be, I just don't really see it.

And as someone else posted, if I'm unhappy about the quality loss, I go to the closet and pull the disk out. That hasn't been the case yet.

In addition, I get the movie as a single file, instead of multiple m2ts files, which not many things can use.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:27 AM
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I just ripped my Iron man Blu-Ray to my hard drive, full movie(40GB or so). Im going to use DVDFab to extract just the main movie to save space. Can someone recommend anything else I can strip from the movie to get the size down(like what audio to strip). i am going to play the movie on my HD200. Unless Converting to .MKV would be better, I have been using ripbot264 or BD rebuilder. Thanks.
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:41 AM
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I just ripped my Iron man Blu-Ray to my hard drive, full movie(40GB or so). Im going to use DVDFab to extract just the main movie to save space. Can someone recommend anything else I can strip from the movie to get the size down(like what audio to strip). i am going to play the movie on my HD200. Unless Converting to .MKV would be better, I have been using ripbot264 or BD rebuilder. Thanks.
I just rip the full movie and then use BDInfo to identify the main playlist and the m2ts files it contains. Then I open up windows exploere and delete all the other playlists and m2ts files from the rip. The extenders play the results perfectly and nearly every movie comes out to be 25 to 30GB. It is easy, saves space, no quality loss and plays perfect.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:12 AM
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I believe BDInfo + ClownBD is the best package for losslessly slimming down a blu-ray rip. Use BDInfo to scan out the disc and determine what playlist you want. Then, load that playlist file up in ClownBD, and let it go. When it asks for what streams you want, choose just the 1080p movie stream, and the DTS_MA audio track. Choose Core for audio output, and it will get you a basic DTS audio track . Choose a .m2ts file for output, and let it fly. You'll end up with just what you need. The main movie video, and a basic DTS audio track, which should be playable on the HD200 (and, since it's just an M2TS file, any other Sage client as well).
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:45 PM
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With 2TB disks coming down in price, I've stopped using ripbot, and switched to makemkv. It allows you to select the audio and video you want, and throws them in a mkv container. 2 minutes to make the selections, about 30 minutes to make the mkv, including chapters, should Sage start to support those some day.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:48 PM
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For Sage semi-mkv chapter support, look at my new tool (beta beta beta!!!) here...
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:09 AM
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Im ripping my Blu-rays main movie only with DVDfab, and it gives me one large file in the streams folder is this correct? Before the rip i looked in the streams folder of the disc and it has a lot of files in the streams folder. Also do i need to keep all these other folders it burns, like
Certificate,auxdata,metadata,bdjo,JAR, clipINF. Thanks a lot guys.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:38 AM
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You really just need the big m2ts file in the streams directory. The rest are usually just the extras from the disk. You can shrink it further by getting rid of all the extra audio and subtitle stuff you will also never use with a tool like tsMuxeR.

Ocassional you will get a movie that breaks up movie into multiple files. Like Spiderman 2 which had two different cuts you could chose from. In that case you need use a tool to read the playslist which will tell you what the order of the files is for your desired selection. I believe DVDFab will handle this for you in the main movie section process.

The issue most people have is with DTS-HD or TrueHD audio. You will need the proper audio decoder to deal with this. If you do not have more than the normal 5 speaker surround sound with a sub-wolfer set then I would just downgrade the audio to normal DTS auto as well.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:47 AM
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Probably best to use something like MakeMKV, which can roll the movie, and just the tracks you want, directly from the disc, INCLUDING CHAPTERS, into a single MKV file. Sage does not, by default, support MKV chapters, but a kind forum user has developed an interim partial solution, using the comskip mechanism...
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