DVB Enhancer for SageTV

[harco]

We've almost got this working here but ran into a problem with picture freezing. It looks like a problem with the plugin but can anyone tell me what this means from the log?

A new ECM packet for SID=105 received while the previous packet for the same SID was being processed

That sounds to me like n3xt is serving them up faster than dvbe4sage can process them.

[John@TunerUK]

Since upgrading to V7, none of the music channels on sky work. encrypted or otherwise. All I get is "No Signal"
I've checked the channel setup to make sure nothing's been moved by sky, but everything there seems fine. Checking the logs I'm getting a lot of eroneous packets (About 95% of the log is eroneous packet messages), and this possible corruption message. All the other channels seem to be working which is strange.
Can anyone throw any light on the subject?

Cheers

John

2010-11-25 16:02:08.703 #1: Got an erroneous packet, skipping!
2010-11-25 16:02:08.703 #1: Some packets were lost (expected CC=0, actual CC=4)
2010-11-25 16:02:08.703 #1: Possible corruption - attempt to jump beyond packet boundaries...
2010-11-25 16:02:08.703 #1: Got an erroneous packet, skipping!
2010-11-25 16:02:08.703 #1: Got an erroneous packet, skipping!

[John@TunerUK]

Originally Posted by harco

We've almost got this working here but ran into a problem with picture freezing. It looks like a problem with the plugin but can anyone tell me what this means from the log?

A new ECM packet for SID=105 received while the previous packet for the same SID was being processed

That sounds to me like n3xt is serving them up faster than dvbe4sage can process them.

I had a freezing issue, but I was using network recording paths rather than local paths. Other than that I haven't had anything that makes it freeze. Have you tried NDSCAM as your plugin?

[harco]

No I need it for a nagra3 system. I don't think NDScam does nagra.

[rickgillyon]

Originally Posted by harco

No I need it for a nagra3 system. I don't think NDScam does nagra.

I thought nothing does nagra3?

[harco]

Theres no hack but you can use a sub.

[harco]

There is a copy of dvbe4sage that has been modified by CodeMonkey to add support for the genpix tuners posted on dvbn.happysat.org. It adds diseqc support and works with NA providers.

[mpogr]

@harco,

Yes, I have all CodeMonkey's changes and already incorporated them into the main source tree. There is a couple of additional things to sort out and I'll publish the binaries supporting both North America satellites and DVB-C soon.

[willplaice]

Michael,

I'm experimenting with prioritising dvbe4sage and sage processes on my 2k3 install, does any plugin run under the dvbe4sage process, or is there a child somewhere i can't see ?

regards, Will

[mpogr]

Will,

Plugins are DLLs loaded into the same process. You won't see them as separate processes anywhere.

Cheers,

Michael.

[Nelbert]

Originally Posted by mpogr

@harco,

Yes, I have all CodeMonkey's changes and already incorporated them into the main source tree. There is a couple of additional things to sort out and I'll publish the binaries supporting both North America satellites and DVB-C soon.

Does the fact that it needs the Win 7 SDK with updated BDA to compile, mean that WHS won't be supported? Am interested in the GotoXY, but suspect I'll need to add some code to support my DVB-S2 box, assuming I don't just give up with windows and move to Linux where basic things like GotoXY are supported in the drivers.

I've compiled the source head, and can't get it working on WHS (and presumably XP will be the same) as the 2 filters before the tuning fail to load. The same binaries work on Win7 until I try and record, then I get a timeout with zero signal. It performs the initial sid finding without issues though and loads the DBA graph before tuning fine.

[Jabroni]

Originally Posted by mpogr

@harco,

Yes, I have all CodeMonkey's changes and already incorporated them into the main source tree. There is a couple of additional things to sort out and I'll publish the binaries supporting both North America satellites and DVB-C soon.

Lookin' forward for those binaries to try it out.. this looks promising

I've been using dvbdream for a couple of years now, would love to try your software too thou...

The only thing I would think i would miss is having way to insert EPG data into SageTV from specific channels (ie Sports PPV channels, or channels that we cant get the guide from zap2it/scheduledirect). But hey we cant have everything we wanted

[mpogr]

FYI, I have just posted the new build 243 of DVBE4SAGE, which includes all CodeMonkey's changes for North America support, DVB-C support (currently tested only with Foxtel AU) and a bunch of additional minor fixes/fine tuning parameters.
If anyone wants to try it out with Foxtel, here is my DVBE4SAGE.INI file:

[General]
LogLevel=2
SetupType=DVBC

[Plugins]
ServedCAIDs=96C

[Tuning]
InitialFrequency=626000
InitialSymbolRate=6950
InitialModulation=64QAM

[Advanced]
ExcludeTIDs=33,213,214,215,216,217,713,714,715,716,717,813,814,815,816,817,913,914,915,916,917
PreferredTIDs=313,314,315,316,317

The ExcludeTIDs and PreferredTIDs parameters are optimized for Melbourne area and might look differently for other areas in Australia.

[mpogr]

Originally Posted by Nelbert

Does the fact that it needs the Win 7 SDK with updated BDA to compile, mean that WHS won't be supported? Am interested in the GotoXY, but suspect I'll need to add some code to support my DVB-S2 box, assuming I don't just give up with windows and move to Linux where basic things like GotoXY are supported in the drivers.

I've compiled the source head, and can't get it working on WHS (and presumably XP will be the same) as the 2 filters before the tuning fail to load. The same binaries work on Win7 until I try and record, then I get a timeout with zero signal. It performs the initial sid finding without issues though and loads the DBA graph before tuning fine.

The fact DVBE4SAGE requires Windows SDK for compilation doesn't mean it can't run on older versions of Windows. In fact, I know several people who run it on XP. It does look like there is a difficulty running it on WHS or, in fact, any other Windows Server OS (2003 and 2008/R2).

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by mpogr

The fact DVBE4SAGE requires Windows SDK for compilation doesn't mean it can't run on older versions of Windows. In fact, I know several people who run it on XP. It does look like there is a difficulty running it on WHS or, in fact, any other Windows Server OS (2003 and 2008/R2).

And that's probably because WHS on other Windows server OS do not come with all of the neccessary components for media playing. They are either an option or need to be installed by careful hacks/individul component installations.

Gerry

[Whitey]

I run DVBE4sage on WHS with very few issues. The biggest issue I have had is getting FireDTV Windows XP drivers working with WHS.

Whitey

[Jabroni]

Anyone got this working on NA with a Genpix Skywalker-1 (w/ BDA driver) ?

For some reason I can get it to detect the transponders, some channels, but comes with a warning

2011-01-06 15:05:13.582 #1: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=12559000, Symbol Rate=20000, Polarization=H, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=7/8
2011-01-06 15:05:13.602 #1: Some packets were lost (expected CC=0, actual CC=1)
2011-01-06 15:05:13.602 #1: Some packets were lost (expected CC=0, actual CC=7)
2011-01-06 15:05:13.626 #1: Some packets were lost (expected CC=0, actual CC=3)
2011-01-06 15:05:13.721 #1: Some packets were lost (expected CC=0, actual CC=15)
2011-01-06 15:05:13.721 #1: Found CA descriptor EMM PID=0x20(32), CAID=0x1800(6144), PROVID=0x0(0), these CAID/PROVID are NOT served, so packets with this PID will NOT be passed to plugins
2011-01-06 15:05:13.722 #1: Found CA descriptor EMM PID=0x120(288), CAID=0x1801(6145), PROVID=0x0(0), these CAID/PROVID are NOT served, so packets with this PID will NOT be passed to plugins
2011-01-06 15:05:13.723 #1: Found CA descriptor EMM PID=0x120(288), CAID=0x1810(6160), PROVID=0x0(0), these CAID/PROVID are NOT served, so packets with this PID will NOT be passed to plugins
2011-01-06 15:05:13.723 #1: Found CA descriptor EMM PID=0x120(288), CAID=0x1816(6166), PROVID=0x0(0), these CAID/PROVID are served, so packets with this PID will be passed to plugins
2011-01-06 15:05:13.724 #1: Found CA descriptor EMM PID=0x350(848), CAID=0x182E(6190), PROVID=0x0(0), these CAID/PROVID are NOT served, so packets with this PID will NOT be passed to plugins
2011-01-06 15:05:13.725 #1: Found CA descriptor EMM PID=0x120(288), CAID=0x1840(6208), PROVID=0x0(0), these CAID/PROVID are NOT served, so packets with this PID will NOT be passed to plugins
2011-01-06 15:05:13.769 #1: Current network NID is 4102
2011-01-06 15:05:13.769 #1: Found transponder for ONID=4102 with TID=2584, Frequency=12267740, Symbol Rate=20000, Polarization=L, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=5/6
2011-01-06 15:05:13.770 #1: Found transponder for ONID=4102 with TID=2586, Frequency=12588500, Symbol Rate=20000, Polarization=L, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=5/6
2011-01-06 15:05:13.770 #1: Found transponder for ONID=4102 with TID=2588, Frequency=12471860, Symbol Rate=20000, Polarization=L, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=5/6

Im pointing to 110W/119W/129W (via disecq) and DPP lnbs

heres my disecq.ini

[4100]
name=Dish 119 W
satpos=-1190
diseqc1=5
diseqc2=0
22KHz=0
gotox=0
LNB_SW=20000000
LNB_LOF1=11250000
LNB_LOF2=14350000

[4102]
name=Dish 110 W
satpos=-1100
diseqc1=6
diseqc2=0
22KHz=0
gotox=0
LNB_SW=20000000
LNB_LOF1=11250000
LNB_LOF2=14350000


[4104]
name=Dish 129 W
satpos=-1290
diseqc1=7
diseqc2=0
22KHz=0
gotox=0
LNB_SW=20000000
LNB_LOF1=11250000
LNB_LOF2=14350000


[USALS]
Latitude=38.90
Longitude=-77.04

[General]
InitialONID=4100
Repeats=0
MovementTimeSec=20

And the main .ini

; This is a sample configuration file for dvbe4sage
; There are several categories of settings, for each setting the value here is the default one

[General]
;LogLevel=2
NumberOfVirtualTuners=1
SetupType=DVBS
NorthAmerica=1

[Plugins]
;IsVGCam=0
;MaxNumberOfResets=5
DCWTimeout=15
ServedCAIDs=1815|1816
;ServedPROVIds=

[Tuning]
InitialONID=4100
InitialFrequency=12559000
InitialSymbolRate=20000
InitialPolarization=H
InitialModulation=QPSK
InitialFEC=7/8
LNB_SW=20000000
LNB_LOF1=11250000
LNB_LOF2=14350000
InitialRunningTime=80
NumberOfBuffers=400
TuningTimeout=60
TuningLockTimeout=30
UseSidForTuning=1
;ExcludeTuners=
;exclude tuners by MAC address
;ExcludeTunersMAC=
DVBS2Tuners=1
UseDiSEqC=1

[Output]
;TSPacketsPerOutputBuffer=160000
TSPacketsOutputThreshold=200
;DisableWriteBuffering=0

[Encoder]
ListeningPort=7979

[Recording]
PreferredAudioLanguage=eng
;PreferredAudioFormat=ac3
;PreferredSubtitlesLanguage=eng

[Advanced]
; This setting tells the program to write down only one PAT packet of "PATDilutionFactor", this helps to reduce the recorded file size
;PATDilutionFactor=1
; This setting tells the program to write down only one PMT packet of "PMTDilutionFactor", this helps to reduce the recorded file size
;PMTDilutionFactor=1
; This setting is used to decide if the channel is FTA, that is, we consider is FTA if we haven't seen a CAT packet for "PMTThreshold" PMT packets
;PMTThreshold=20
; This setting tells the program to decide the PSI structures are mature enough to use for the next tuning operation after "PSIMaturityTime" seconds
;PSIMaturityTime=10 to use with DVBE4Sage.

[Nelbert]

Originally Posted by gplasky

And that's probably because WHS on other Windows server OS do not come with all of the neccessary components for media playing. They are either an option or need to be installed by careful hacks/individul component installations.

Gerry

Server 2003/2008 definately have no BDA stack in them, which is why they require all the hacks and why I ended up not running a 2K8 server.

I'm more surprised about WHS as I have no problems installing the tuner and using the tuner software to watch channels and confirm everything is working ok.

I wouldn't be surprised to find the BDA stack isn't a full implementation though, it's could missing some of the additions that have appeared since Win 7, as MS seem very opposed to WHS running Media Centre. dvbe4sage complains about the 2 BDA filters being the wrong size (i think, have deleted it from WHS) and unloads them before the generic tuning starts. It has no problem initialising the card, tuning and grabbing the channel data.

I also have a OTA EPG Grabber running without issues on WHS so am not sure what parts would be missing as I can tune, grab EPG and playback channels on WHS without hacking anything into it.

[harco]

Jabroni

Your log looks ok, the expected cc= at the beginning of the discovery process is normal. cc is the continuity counter, it compares the current packet to the last packet (should increase by one) so when you first start its almost always going to be wrong. And there is one for each pid, ecm,emm,pmt

The CA descriptor messages are telling you that only 1816 is going to be passed and that is what you want. You might want to take out the 1815 from the ini unless your actually pointed at 82 or 91

From the clip you posted it looks normal. So what happens when you try to tune a channel?

[Jabroni]

Originally Posted by harco

Jabroni

Your log looks ok, the expected cc= at the beginning of the discovery process is normal. cc is the continuity counter, it compares the current packet to the last packet (should increase by one) so when you first start its almost always going to be wrong. And there is one for each pid, ecm,emm,pmt

The CA descriptor messages are telling you that only 1816 is going to be passed and that is what you want. You might want to take out the 1815 from the ini unless your actually pointed at 82 or 91

From the clip you posted it looks normal. So what happens when you try to tune a channel?

Lets say I want to tune it to 107 on 119W. I go to the Operations, Start Recording. Put the Channel of 268828779, click the Use SID.

Then on the log I get

2011-01-06 17:03:10.893 Autodiscovery requested, but cannot find the transponder for SID=107 on ONID=4102 (""), no recording done!