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SageTV Media Extender Discussion related to any SageTV Media Extender used directly by SageTV. Questions, issues, problems, suggestions, etc. relating to a SageTV supported media extender should be posted here. Use the SageTV HD Theater - Media Player forum for issues related to using an HD Theater while not connected to a SageTV server.

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Old 12-01-2008, 06:29 PM
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is the manual for the HD200 somewhere online?
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:35 PM
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Thank you for your answer. Excuse my ignorance. Does this mean it can play some Blu Ray files?
It will play TS files (again, I haven't really torture tested it with BD rips). But I know it can't handle any of the new audio formats. It may play them without audio, I've never tried.

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I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the Sage software. I run Windows Home Server. I hardly utilize it up to its capabilities. Its basically a NAS on which I store my music and videos. The WHS does not have a tuner and I don't anticipate I will be using the HD Theater to record TV. Do I need the software for anything?
SageTV is first and foremost an excellent (I'd say class leading) PVR. The server software has a couple functions, primarily is recording TV and managing your recordings, schedules, favorites, etc. But beyond that it stores all the metadata for your media and provides that information to extenders.

So for example you could load up SageTV on WHS, drop on one of the customizations that supports metadata from DVD Profiler or IMDB, and the Sage server would collect and store that information, and provide it to every extender on the network. All extenders would have access to the same set of information.

Honestly, there's not a lot of point to running SageTV on a PC with the HD200 if you have no intention of using the PVR features. That said, it's quite possible (depending on how the reception is for non-TV users) that you'll have to use SageTV on the PC to get access to all the cool addons like SageMC.

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What concerns me, though, is the new STV seen on the screenshot. Is this screen capture a "master" Menu that comes on when you start up the HD200, and then when you choose "SageTV Servers" (upper right), it takes you to your SageTV STV (whether it be original, SageMC, customized, or whatever)?
Yeah basically. That's the main menu in standalone mode. If you want, you can configure it to automatically connect to your Sage server and it starts up almost like the HD100 (not quite as fast because it always boots into that menu and waits 5 seconds to connect).
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:00 PM
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Excuse the ignorance if this should be a SageTV question and not an extender question but can this new extender upconvert nonprotected ripped DVD's when played? I've only been using Sage server connected directly to my TV and it doesn't look as if it upconverts. Again this may just be ignorance but when I used to use VMC it looked as if the quality looked a little better - so upconverted.

Don't get me wrong, I love my current setup but this is one of the features that I (think I) miss.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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Any chance that the "stand alone" mode of the HD200 can be controlled by third party applications? For example, currently home automation users (CQC/MainLobby/etc.) can launch playback on the HD100, control it and so on, but that's going through the SageTV server...
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:19 PM
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Mine shipped! Placed my order this morning and just got my UPS tracking # now. Should be here by Friday. Can't wait.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:30 PM
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Excuse the ignorance if this should be a SageTV question and not an extender question but can this new extender upconvert nonprotected ripped DVD's when played? I've only been using Sage server connected directly to my TV and it doesn't look as if it upconverts. Again this may just be ignorance but when I used to use VMC it looked as if the quality looked a little better - so upconverted.

Don't get me wrong, I love my current setup but this is one of the features that I (think I) miss.
Bsung, the HD Theater and the HD 100 will upconvert ripped DVDs just like VMC. SageTV server should also upconvert everything to your TV's resolution and should actually be able to perform exactly the same as VMC. There are likely some setup issues and you might check over on the SageTV software forum, post your hardware setup and the settings you have for SageTV and they can help you over there. Also, upconversion is just a buzz word electronics makers use to get you to buy new hardware. Your TV, if it is a HDTV, upconverts everything also. Below is a decent description of what upconversion is.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/2402
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:30 PM
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Also ordered this morning and received my tracking number this evening. I started planning a SageTV system back this past summer, but when the Extenders sold out in August, I put it all on hold. Guess I get started again since I should have three HD200's next monday.

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:03 PM
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Unfortunately, no real change.
Oh well.

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You could snag an AVM-50 while they're on sale Your TV should have decent deinterlacing, so you could just set it to Native Output switching and nullify the issue.
Not really... While the TV's deinterlacer is OK, and would normally work good enuogh for this, it doesn't accept a 480i signal over HDMI. So I switch to component and the color looks a little washed out and the TV has to resync every time the resolution changes... Wife no happy with that either. The second TV has the same issue as well, but I really don't want to buy a scaler for it. <sigh>

I'm betting the AVM-50 is more than I'm willing to spend...
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:21 PM
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Excuse the ignorance if this should be a SageTV question and not an extender question but can this new extender upconvert nonprotected ripped DVD's when played?
Yup.

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I've only been using Sage server connected directly to my TV and it doesn't look as if it upconverts. Again this may just be ignorance but when I used to use VMC it looked as if the quality looked a little better - so upconverted.
Sage upconverts too, probably need to check your settings, I'd start a thread in the software forum and you should get some help.

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Any chance that the "stand alone" mode of the HD200 can be controlled by third party applications? For example, currently home automation users (CQC/MainLobby/etc.) can launch playback on the HD100, control it and so on, but that's going through the SageTV server...
Should be, but probably not out of the box.

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Not really... While the TV's deinterlacer is OK, and would normally work good enuogh for this, it doesn't accept a 480i signal over HDMI. So I switch to component and the color looks a little washed out and the TV has to resync every time the resolution changes... Wife no happy with that either. The second TV has the same issue as well, but I really don't want to buy a scaler for it. <sigh>

I'm betting the AVM-50 is more than I'm willing to spend...
Probably, there's always the DVDo Edge.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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I've been a Sage customer since 2004, and I've just donated another $200 to the cause. Can't wait! Roll on Santa!
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:39 PM
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I'm actually a little upset with Sage on this . Here in the Mountain time zone this was available on their web site on 11/30. They said it would be December and that wasn't true.

Unfortunately I don't have the money to buy one until January. I hope they will have stock then.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:58 PM
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OK, I feel a little stupid posting this; however I don't understand everyone saying the HD-100 does not support 1080p. Did I miss something?

I have always had my HD-100 in 1080p mode. I have never used 1080i mode. I can watch HDHR recordings, HD-PVR recordings, .mkvs in 1080p, BD rips, etc. and I have minor problems but they all work 98% of the time. I have always thought the 2% was firmware related, not hardware.

From the day I installed my HD-100 it has been in 1080p mode. I have confirmed this by checking the display on my Sony 60" RP SRDX TV.

Now the 1 semi-major problem I have with .mkv files is the rewind sometimes does not work.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:13 PM
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I've been a Sage customer since 2004, and I've just donated another $200 to the cause. Can't wait! Roll on Santa!
Well put.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:35 PM
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I'm actually a little upset with Sage on this . Here in the Mountain time zone this was available on their web site on 11/30. They said it would be December and that wasn't true.

Unfortunately I don't have the money to buy one until January. I hope they will have stock then.
I think the new form factor lets them pack more of them in the inventory closet. So, you should be fine.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:37 PM
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In stand-alone mode, it should be able to read the files itself. When connected to a SageTV server, it acts as an extender client for the main server, with the full SageTV interface for TV recordings, all the media the server sees, & so on.

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What protocol can it use to read my media at the server? SMB/CIFS, NFS, UPnP, FTP?

I use NAS to store my media files and need to make sure that the HD200 and my NAS speak the same language.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:38 PM
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Ordered on Sunday and get mine on Wednesday. Early Xmas for me!!!
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:48 PM
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OK, I feel a little stupid posting this; however I don't understand everyone saying the HD-100 does not support 1080p. Did I miss something?

I have always had my HD-100 in 1080p mode. I have never used 1080i mode. I can watch HDHR recordings, HD-PVR recordings, .mkvs in 1080p, BD rips, etc. and I have minor problems but they all work 98% of the time. I have always thought the 2% was firmware related, not hardware.
I think it's the 2% that people are talking about. Many took "up to 1080p" to mean "any 1080p" when that's not necessarily true (no matter what profile the chip supports).

I'm with you, I'm not 100% convinced the HD100 can't handle high-bitrate H.264/VC1, still seems like there's a bottleneck in the pipeline to the HD100 since you can usually pause/skip back and that section will be OK.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:29 PM
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Ordered this morning...scheduled to arrive on Monday the 8th. I have 7 days to buy my new TV.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:13 AM
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That's the main menu in standalone mode. If you want, you can configure it to automatically connect to your Sage server and it starts up almost like the HD100 (not quite as fast because it always boots into that menu and waits 5 seconds to connect).
Ahh, that's too bad. I get really frustrated with the HD100 when it does that 5 second connecting thing instead of just starting right up. Are you saying that every single time you turn on the 200 it's going to do that little 5 second thing? Why wouldn't they just do it the same way it is now - leave it up to the user to decide whether they want to go to the settings menu or just load up the STV right away?
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