I'm officially giving up on my HD PVR and Directv dreams - for now..

[Shield]

Well, I put the two I have left up on ebay. Great prices too. I think they might be the only two up there!

I'll revisit this again someday...

[ghostlobster]

Originally Posted by Chriscic

Obviously you're giving up resolution, which I don't want to do. Although I may give it a try in the short-term until the new drivers are released, and yes I realize that on a practical basis the rez change isn't very noticeable. Esp. on my smaller TVs but for the 120" PJ screen I want that 1080 : )

Yeah, I know...dropping to 720p supposedly makes for a degraded viewing experience. However, I guess my eyes are just old or something, because I just can not tell the difference between a 720p picture and a 1080i picture! Additionally, several stations broadcast in only 720p (ABC, FOX, and a few others) so I really don't understand the big deal. And let's not even bring up the debate/holy war between the progressive vs. interlaced factions! There are a whole slew of people out there who maintain that the 720 progressive picture is better than the 1080 interlaced picture...again, to me, they both look great! No one is broadcasting in 1080 progressive at this time, nor do I see it happening anytime in the near future, so 1080p is stricly a "in house" format for BluRay and other non-broacast videos, so that format does not come into play here at all.

I'd be very very interested in the results of a blind side by side comparison on that 120" screen.

[Chriscic]

Originally Posted by ghostlobster

I'd be very very interested in the results of a blind side by side comparison on that 120" screen.

I'll have to give that a try soon. On my 32" upstairs I couldn't tell the difference, it's true.

[TallMomof2]

From what I understand the visual differences between 720p and 1080i are only noticeable on sets larger than 42". I don't have anything large enough to test that. Switching to 720p solved most of my stuttering problems.

[ghostlobster]

Originally Posted by TallMomof2

From what I understand the visual differences between 720p and 1080i are only noticeable on sets larger than 42". I don't have anything large enough to test that. Switching to 720p solved most of my stuttering problems.

My set's a 47" RPTV and I've had the ultimate end-user-tester (Mrs. Lobster) look at images sent into the HD-PVR at 720p and 1080i very very closely, and she could not tell the difference.
Now, admittedly, my TV is old by HDTV standards, primarily because I'm an early adopter, but it's still HD and it still looks great.

[lobosrul]

Originally Posted by ghostlobster

Yeah, I know...dropping to 720p supposedly makes for a degraded viewing experience. However, I guess my eyes are just old or something, because I just can not tell the difference between a 720p picture and a 1080i picture! Additionally, several stations broadcast in only 720p (ABC, FOX, and a few others) so I really don't understand the big deal. And let's not even bring up the debate/holy war between the progressive vs. interlaced factions! There are a whole slew of people out there who maintain that the 720 progressive picture is better than the 1080 interlaced picture...again, to me, they both look great! No one is broadcasting in 1080 progressive at this time, nor do I see it happening anytime in the near future, so 1080p is stricly a "in house" format for BluRay and other non-broacast videos, so that format does not come into play here at all.

I'd be very very interested in the results of a blind side by side comparison on that 120" screen.

I for one prefer 720p over 1080i as far as OTA broadcasts go. 720p can handle the bitstarved MPEG-2 compressions we get when stations go with sub-channels. 1080p might become more common place on Satellite in the future, Dish (I think it was Dish) already has some movies @ 1080p on PPV.
Sports is always better @ 720p than 1080i IMO as well.

Here's a nice chart showing what resolution is needed at a certain distance for a certain screen size: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...4&postcount=18

I don't know exactly how it was calculated, or if its for people with 20/20 vision or what, but it looks about right to me.

[Chriscic]

Originally Posted by Brent

Here's my setup which provides me HD-PVR liveTV and recorded TV that I'm very happy with.

Brent, are you forcing SageTV to use a particular audio filter? I'm not sure how to do that (I see how you did the video), and am wondering if forcing the Arcsoft video decoder might help.