SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > General Discussion > General Discussion
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

General Discussion General discussion about SageTV and related companies, products, and technologies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #61  
Old 04-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Brent Brent is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: KC, Missouri
Posts: 3,695
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHS View Post
pre-order link is not ready
Ah man they're going to make us wait until midnight or something crazy aren't they.....
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 04-04-2008, 07:36 PM
MeInMaui's Avatar
MeInMaui MeInMaui is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Maui. HI
Posts: 4,203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent View Post
Ah man they're going to make us wait until midnight or something crazy aren't they.....
Good thing I live in Hawaii. Every once in a while the time zone thing can work to my advantage.

Aloha,
Mike
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 04-04-2008, 07:36 PM
SHS's Avatar
SHS SHS is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Vinita, Oklahoma
Posts: 4,589
For you Brent YES hehe
It hard say when they have it done
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 04-04-2008, 07:39 PM
Brent Brent is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: KC, Missouri
Posts: 3,695
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHS View Post
For you Brent YES hehe
It hard say when they have it done
Special treatment in this case means I'm on the short bus doesn't it.....

Seriously though thanks for keeping us up-to-date on this SHS. We appreciate it!
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 04-04-2008, 08:05 PM
jkf jkf is offline
Sage User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 17
The "Front and rear panel" diagram shows svideo and composite inputs hiding behind the remote control. I wonder if it can capture from those and the component inputs at the same time.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 04-04-2008, 08:23 PM
Chriscic Chriscic is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 729
Has SageTV committed to supporting this device? I don't use SageTV right now, but if it supports this device in a robust way and one can control vs. the Sage extender, I may well go that route.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 04-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Bandit Bandit is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 224
Has Sage ever officially confirmed these are the devices they mentioned and if they are currently working on support for them?
__________________
Server:Intel X6700 Dual Core CPU - 4GB Ram - 80GB SATA OS Drive - 500GB LiveTV - 4.5 TB Drobo S for storage
Tuners:1 Hauppauge PVR250 / 1 NVidia DualTV / 2 HDHR Using OTA / 1 WinTV PVR2 USB / 2 HDPVR using FW for channel changes
Clients:2 STP-HD200 / 2 STX-HD100 / MediaMVP via Wireless Access Point in shed...came in handy when I was soldering the HD100
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 04-04-2008, 09:07 PM
mickp's Avatar
mickp mickp is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 468
Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Addict View Post
I'm curious if Sage will be able to release "their version " around a similar timeframe.

I'd like to "keep it in the family" and buy a version from Sage (that's likely immediately integrated) if they do, in fact, release it as hinted...
Have Sage said anything whatsoever about releasing their own version beyond;

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
I've got a question for you all....so *if* there *was* a USB device that could capture HD at 1080i and encode it into H.264 that worked with SageTV....what do you think a good name for it would be?

Maybe I missed another announcement from Sage re: this.

Also, has anyone considered the Blackmagic Intensity Pro HDTV card which is already running in Sage How To: Record 1080i HD Component from Any Source

I'm suprised there's not been more action on this thread.

Mick.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 04-04-2008, 09:26 PM
bastafidli bastafidli is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 728
The system requirements list

Processor Requirements (minimum):
* Dual core CPU

I wonder if this is there just for playback or also for recording and if playback is handled by HD extender the processor requirement are actually much lower?
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 04-04-2008, 10:12 PM
bialio's Avatar
bialio bialio is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 3,445
Check out all the Arcsoft software bundled with :

# Arcsoft “TotalMediaExtreme” for video capture, preview, playback, and authoring and burning your TV recordings onto a Blu-ray DVD compatible disc
# Arcsoft “TotalMedia Theater”, a video player so you can play back your TV recordings to your PC screen
# Arcsoft “MediaConverter” , to convert your HD recordings onto other formats

Seems like a bare bones (no software, remote, just what we need for SageTV goodness) is order. Or a Sage branded version....

btl.
__________________
PHOENIX 3 is here!
Server : Linux V9, Clients : Win10 and Nvidia Shield Android Miniclient
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 04-05-2008, 04:34 AM
morikaweb's Avatar
morikaweb morikaweb is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 160
Ok I got tired of waiting so I went to bed... Its morning now and there is still no pre-order link?
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 04-05-2008, 06:30 AM
Fluffdaddy Fluffdaddy is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philly, Pa
Posts: 1,004
Wow you want it bad
__________________
We’re doomed. It will never work
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 04-05-2008, 07:42 AM
morikaweb's Avatar
morikaweb morikaweb is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 160
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffdaddy View Post
Wow you want it bad
I'll say, I'v had my CC beside my computer since I heard there was going to be a Pre-Order
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 04-05-2008, 12:14 PM
Chriscic Chriscic is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 729
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthPaw View Post
The hcw_hd_pvr2_1080i_h264.ts file is 82.3 Mbytes (84361216 bytes) 125 seconds long. So for the 25 fps second it is 659 Kbytes per second. Not Bad 2.4 GBytes per hour. Do you know if 30 frames per second or 60 fields per second is an option?
So if this file would be 2.4GB/hour then, if my calculations are correct, it is being recorded at significantly less than the max 13.5Gb/sec capability. At max it should be about 6GB/hour.

So I agree, not bad, and you should be able to get a lot better out of this product.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 04-05-2008, 12:33 PM
frontlinegeek frontlinegeek is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NB, Canada
Posts: 184
Remember, this is H264, not MPEG2. MPEG2 would eat up to 8 GB per hour. I know from looking at my recording sizes from my firewire setup.

Theoretically, the H264 standards have it that the max quality MPEG2 files would now only be 4 GB per hour in H264. This is AWESOME and is also how it will be possible to store 2 hours (Or more) of HDTV on a dual layer DVD.

The funny thing is with 1 TB drives now about to drop below the $200 mark, what are we to do with all of this space!!! I mean, the SD content off of firewire is only 1.4 GB per hour so I can only imagine what that will drop to with H264. This means that unless you record EVERYTHING on TV, the average person should be able to build an HTPC server with only 250 GB for TV shows!!! That opens the opportunity for RAID 1 so as to avoid lost recordings from drive failure.
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 04-05-2008, 01:20 PM
g808's Avatar
g808 g808 is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 101
Looks like Sage will officially support this. Not a shocker.
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-04/...d-pvr-support/
__________________
Sage v7.0.16, Win7 Ultimate, Asus A8N-SLI Premium, AMD X2 3800+ Dual Core, 2GB PC3200, 2 x HD-PVR, 2 x Motorola DCT6200, HDHomeRun w/ QAM, USB-UIRT, Seagate 250GB PATA (system), WD 2TB (recordings), Gigabyte 6600GT fanless, HD300 extender
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 04-05-2008, 01:45 PM
Kirby's Avatar
Kirby Kirby is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,253
Here's an idea for those that have large mpeg-2 libraries like myself (over 6TB). Run the component/optical output of a HD Extender into one of these HD PVR's, and setup manual recordings to record it back into MPeg-4. I wonder how the quality of this would compare to encoding with software tools. It would surely be a lot faster (real time encoding!). Sound plausible?
__________________
Sage Server: HP ProLiant N40L MicroServer, AMD Turion II Neo N40L 1.5GHz Dual Core, 8GB Ram, WHS2011 64bit, Sage 7.1.9 WHS, HDHR (1 QAM, 1 OTA), HDHR Prime 3CC, HD-PVR for copy-once movie channels
HTPC Client:Intel DH61AG, Intel G620 cpu, 8GB ram, Intel 80GB SSD, 4GB RamDisk holding Sage/Java/TMT5
Sage Client:Sage HD-200 Extender
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 04-05-2008, 02:36 PM
korben_dallas's Avatar
korben_dallas korben_dallas is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 1,250
Quote:
Originally Posted by g808 View Post
Looks like Sage will officially support this. Not a shocker.
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-04/...d-pvr-support/
Quote:
And I just heard back from multi-OS SageTV CEO, Mike Machado regarding their integration plans:

We’re working to support the HD PVR as soon as we can. We expect we’ll support it at or near launch.
Glad to finally have a confirmation.

I'm in for two..

But.. looks like it'll be time to do some upgrades: dual-core CPU and 256MB vid card required.


edit:

Quote:
I'm in for two..
Hauppauge better be on the ball here and make sure at least two of these can work simultaneously on the same HTPC!
__________________
SageTV server & client: Win 10 Pro x64, Intel DH67CF, Core i5 2405s, 8 GB ram, Intel HD 3000, 40GB SSD system, 4TB storage, 2x HD PVR component + optical audio, USB-UIRT 2 zones + remote hack, Logitech Harmony One, HDMI output to Sony receiver with native Intel bitstreaming

Last edited by korben_dallas; 04-05-2008 at 02:38 PM. Reason: edit
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 04-05-2008, 02:49 PM
Chriscic Chriscic is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 729
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
Here's an idea for those that have large mpeg-2 libraries like myself (over 6TB). Run the component/optical output of a HD Extender into one of these HD PVR's, and setup manual recordings to record it back into MPeg-4. I wonder how the quality of this would compare to encoding with software tools.
I would think a software re-encoder would do a better job than a process that converts compressed digital to analog and then back to compressed digital. Also seems like less trouble?
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 04-05-2008, 03:23 PM
Chriscic Chriscic is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 729
I just took a look at the clip again, this time on my RS1 pj instead of my 1024x768 LCD monitor.

It doesn't look that great... a lot of the finer details shimmer. Hopefully this is due to the modest bitrate it was recorded at.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.