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Old 05-14-2008, 04:56 PM
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I'll be using firewire to change the channels, dont quite recall what model and am to lazy to go upstairs. It is a motorola HD box though.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:08 PM
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Can someone explain to me how the changing of channels is going to work. I plan on leaving my Sagetv server in a closet with my STB, and then control sage with the media extender. Will I be able to use the media extender remote and then beable to change it with an IR blaster or some kind of firewire connection with the server and the STB?
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:27 PM
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Its on Amazon now.
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:26 PM
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And I'm a Amazon Prime member so free shipping and next day for just 4 bucks. Hummm what to do?
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:26 PM
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Can someone explain to me how the changing of channels is going to work. I plan on leaving my Sagetv server in a closet with my STB, and then control sage with the media extender. Will I be able to use the media extender remote and then beable to change it with an IR blaster or some kind of firewire connection with the server and the STB?
Channel Changing can be done with the IR blaster that comes with the HD-PVR.
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:45 PM
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Can someone explain to me how the changing of channels is going to work. I plan on leaving my Sagetv server in a closet with my STB, and then control sage with the media extender. Will I be able to use the media extender remote and then beable to change it with an IR blaster or some kind of firewire connection with the server and the STB?
I am currently using firewire to change channels for both firewire recording and for S-video. Hopefully I can easily leverage that setup.


I like the ad on Amazon; normally ships in 2 to 3 weeks. Lets see, that would put it right about...

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Old 05-15-2008, 07:31 AM
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[QUOTE=Ryand833;280949]Well, I ordered an HD-PVR from hauppauge's webpage on April 30th from their webstore, and got my order confirmation immediately, but hadn't heard anything from them since then, so I decided to e-mail them and I'll post the response I got from them for everyone here who may be wondering where your order is:



http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

Um, just put mine in a plastic bag or something. Who needs a case? I can go to radio shack and put it in my own or just not have a case! No one will see it anyway! Lets get them out the door!

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Old 05-15-2008, 12:07 PM
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This may have already been asked and answered. (I tried to read all 23 pages of posts.) So please, nicely correct me if I'm wrong but SageTV doesn't work natively at all in h.264. Instead it takes the h.264 and converts it to MPEG2. I thought that's what I read on a post about the older Plextor h.264. USB boxes.

So what advantage do you get from this box supporting h.264? I certainly still know it's phenomenally useful with component level inputs to USB 2.0. So you can get HD into the PC from the cable/satellite box.

But if the h.264 is just transcoded to MPE2, wouldn't it be better if it just outputted MPEG2 to SageTV?
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:15 PM
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This may have already been asked and answered. (I tried to read all 23 pages of posts.) So please, nicely correct me if I'm wrong but SageTV doesn't work natively at all in h.264. Instead it takes the h.264 and converts it to MPEG2. I thought that's what I read on a post about the older Plextor h.264. USB boxes.

So what advantage do you get from this box supporting h.264? I certainly still know it's phenomenally useful with component level inputs to USB 2.0. So you can get HD into the PC from the cable/satellite box.

But if the h.264 is just transcoded to MPE2, wouldn't it be better if it just outputted MPEG2 to SageTV?
Sage now natively supports h.264. The only thing that doesn't is the old hardware player.

If for whatever reason you couldn't decode h.264 then in your specific case, yes MPEG2 would be better. But h.264 is much more effecient than mpeg-2. 720p will look nice @ 5 Mbps h.264, even 4 in some cases. With Mpeg-2 you would need a bitrate of at least 12 Mbps.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:45 PM
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Sage now natively supports h.264. The only thing that doesn't is the old hardware player.

If for whatever reason you couldn't decode h.264 then in your specific case, yes MPEG2 would be better. But h.264 is much more effecient than mpeg-2. 720p will look nice @ 5 Mbps h.264, even 4 in some cases. With Mpeg-2 you would need a bitrate of at least 12 Mbps.
You are kidding me. Man did I miss that one. So with one of those new units and the latest SageTV it'll use native h.264. That is simple GREAT!!!!!

Ok, has anyone received their new units and does SageTV support it yet?

As soon as it does, I'm there - I've been wanting to go digital for some time now.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:02 PM
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No one has recieved these yet. They are all on backorder due to a manufacturing delay with the enclosures but the latest Sage beta that was released a few days ago included the required support.

All we need now is for Hauppage to ship these so that widespread beta testing can commence.

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Old 05-15-2008, 02:20 PM
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No one has recieved these yet. They are all on backorder due to a manufacturing delay with the enclosures but the latest Sage beta that was released a few days ago included the required support.

All we need now is for Hauppage to ship these so that widespread beta testing can commence.

S
Thank you both so much for the information. I am there as soon as they start shipping and someone tests it with SageTV, I'll order one. I'm not quite as brave as you all are and my wife would kill me if the TV didn't work.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:05 PM
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So Excited!!! I just purchased my first HD-100. Now all I need is my HD-PVR to ship, and I'm gonna have some FUN with my new toys. Either that or be really frustrated on configuration.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:52 AM
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The movie studios are (again) trying to take all our fun away by plugging the analog hole that the Hauppauge HD PVR exploits. Nothing to worrry about yet -- and possibly never -- but certainly something to keep an eye on.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:05 AM
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The movie studios are (again) trying to take all our fun away by plugging the analog hole that the Hauppauge HD PVR exploits. Nothing to worrry about yet -- and possibly never -- but certainly something to keep an eye on.
Read that this morning. I really wish the MPAA would die in a fire.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:24 AM
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Very early in one of these (HD PVR) threads I said the MPAA would try and pull this crap.
Sorry I was right, but not surprised
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:25 AM
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Read that this morning. I really wish the MPAA would die in a fire.
Second that. I just hope Comcast (and other providers) realize that they will lose business if they make such changes.

Maybe products like this are the solution...

http://www.hdfury.com/
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:07 AM
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Second that. I just hope Comcast (and other providers) realize that they will lose business if they make such changes.

Maybe products like this are the solution...

http://www.hdfury.com/
although I don't quite need this, I almost feel like buying one to support these guys. Seems like a great product.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:19 AM
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That plus a RGBHV ->Component converter is all we will need when the analog hole is plugged. SO for each HD-PVR, add another $350.

I suspect it will be a long time before we have to deal with this - even if some providers shut down the A-hole, others will leave it open and get all the business.....

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Old 05-16-2008, 09:20 AM
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Hopefully we won't need things like the HDfury as this will make things more complicated and expensive for hobbyists like ourselves, but I'll go that route if the MPAA has their way.

I would hope the cable and satellite companies are smart and don't mess with the analog hole. It will anger anyone w/ an HDTV that's more than a few years old, which I'm guessing is a lot of people. That seems like a big business risk in return for not-that-much protection from real criminals. As a business person, that doesn't seem like a good trade-off to me, but I realize they're under a lot of external pressure from the studios, etc.
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