Hauppauge WinTV HD PVR (H.264) screenshot and pre-order link

[sleonard]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

It would be nice if they transcoded 5.1 AAC to AC3. I know when I was using my MVP it would but the channels would be all mixed up coming out of the wrong speakers. So the process is in place it just needs to be fixed and extended to the HD100.

Originally Posted by jbellanca

My guess is they don't do that so that they don't have to pay the fees to Dolby.

My guess is that they don't do anything at all to AC3 5.1. The only way to get AC3 5.1 into this device is via the digital input. The analog input is 2 channel stereo.

Since the Toslink audio is already digitally encoded it makes sense that they would just mux it as is into the encoded video. Otherwise the would have to decode the digital audio from AC3 5.1 and then re-encode it into AAC.

If they went to all that trouble to transcode the AC3 to AAC why would they then reverse the process? Muxing the original AC3 5.1 audio stream into the encoded video is easier and would not Dolby any license frequire paying ees.

S

[SouthPaw]

Originally Posted by jbellanca

You won't be able to just rename it. You'll have to use a tool, like Quicktime Pro or some other program, to re-mux it into a new container.

I thought the .TS file has a MPEG-4 container.

[Shield]

So here's my questions - I have 2 Dual tuner HR21-700's from Directv. I assume this would always "tie up" one of the tuners? I'm just confused if I'm recording two things at once, will it only output whatever I'm watching?
Should I just get a single tuner mpeg-4 H20 Directv box and let this Hauppage box control it?
Will there be guide data for this in Sage?

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by sleonard

My guess is that they don't do anything at all to AC3 5.1. The only way to get AC3 5.1 into this device is via the digital input. The analog input is 2 channel stereo.

Since the Toslink audio is already digitally encoded it makes sense that they would just mux it as is into the encoded video. Otherwise the would have to decode the digital audio from AC3 5.1 and then re-encode it into AAC.

If they went to all that trouble to transcode the AC3 to AAC why would they then reverse the process? Muxing the original AC3 5.1 audio stream into the encoded video is easier and would not Dolby any license frequire paying ees.

S

I think you misunderstand. I'm talking about video files that have AAC 5.1 audio. On my MVP, which was hooked to my receiver via S/PDIF, SageTV would transcode AAC 5.1 to AC3 but the channels were all scrambled so it wouldn't sound right. This is the reason I stuck to keeping the original AC3 or DTS audio when converting my DVD's.

Now, if this file is a direct recording from the HD-PVR and it has AAC audio then Sage is going to have to do something about AAC 5.1 (assuming the HD-PVR doesn't downmix 5.1 to stereo) because piping it through the HD100 simply produces stereo PCM through the digital out. Transcoding it to AC3 would be the best thing to do to keep it in 5.1 all the way to the receiver.

[rwc]

I'm still confused..what do I need to do to test out the sample clip (the .TS file)?

I tried just paying it in WMP 10, and it didn't know what to do...I'm guessing I'm missing a codec? (Which ones do I need?)

thanks!

rwc

[sleonard]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

I think you misunderstand. I'm talking about video files that have AAC 5.1 audio. On my MVP, which was hooked to my receiver via S/PDIF, SageTV would transcode AAC 5.1 to AC3 but the channels were all scrambled so it wouldn't sound right. This is the reason I stuck to keeping the original AC3 or DTS audio when converting my DVD's..

OK, I think I understand now. Are you saying that you would like the Sage server to fix the transcoding of AAC to AC3 when they are streaming a file to an extender? A files such as one from a ripped and transcoded DVD?

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

Now, if this file is a direct recording from the HD-PVR and it has AAC audio then Sage is going to have to do something about AAC 5.1 (assuming the HD-PVR doesn't downmix 5.1 to stereo) because piping it through the HD100 simply produces stereo PCM through the digital out. Transcoding it to AC3 would be the best thing to do to keep it in 5.1 all the way to the receiver.

If the file is a direct recording from the HD-PVR and it has AAC audio then how could it be 5.1? The only audio input that would require encoding to AAC is the analog stereo input. Of course the stereo AAC would still need to be transcoded by the server for playback on an extender.

S

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by sleonard

OK, I think I understand now. Are you saying that you would like the Sage server to fix the transcoding of AAC to AC3 when they are streaming a file to an extender? A files such as one from a ripped and transcoded DVD?

Yes.

Originally Posted by sleonard

If the file is a direct recording from the HD-PVR and it has AAC audio then how could it be 5.1? The only audio input that would require encoding to AAC is the analog stereo input. Of course the stereo AAC would still need to be transcoded by the server for playback on an extender.

S

Since the device is not released yet this is kind of academic. I would hope that the HD-PVR would leave the original audio stream intact if it were hooked via S/PDIF. I would expect the analog stereo input to compress the audio in some way. As for myself I will be using the digital input when I get one.

AAC only needs to be transcoded if you have an MVP. The HD100 natively supports the playback of AAC whether it be stereo or 5.1. But in the case of 5.1 it will downmix it to stereo PCM for output.

[ben_95sl1]

I couldn't resist and pre-ordered, I wonder if it will show up soon AND work like it's supposed to? Finally a reason for me to go HD!

Waiting.......still Waiting.....are we there yet?

Ben

[pastafazoule]

hi i am planning on buying a Hauppauge hd pvr when it comes out,can anybody tell me if this whould work running bootcamp with windows xp or vista on my intel imac

[MrD]

That a giant heat sink on top ?

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by MrD

That a giant heat sink on top ?

No, it's a griddle.

[DOS64K]

Originally Posted by MeInMaui

No, it's a griddle.

Mmmmmmmm, Pannini's in widescreen

[Chriscic]

Originally Posted by pastafazoule

hi i am planning on buying a Hauppauge hd pvr when it comes out,can anybody tell me if this whould work running bootcamp with windows xp or vista on my intel imac

I don't see why it wouldn't.

[sage.cast.NH]

Item is available for purchase at the Hauppauge on-line store and the claimed ship date is May 1, 2008.

[dvd_maniac]

I do not think this is going to be worth much to me if I can not edit out the commercials

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by dvd_maniac

I do not think this is going to be worth much to me if I can not edit out the commercials

This has probably been mentioned already, but h.264 support is in the works for both Show Analyzer and VideoRedo.

Aloha,
Mike

[Brent]

Originally Posted by dvd_maniac

I do not think this is going to be worth much to me if I can not edit out the commercials

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing you will be able to mark commercials fine eventually. I know that it's being discussed at least. EDIT: Mike beat me to the punch (see post above this one)

You can edit h.264 files also, but not with videoredo at the moment.

[Jesse]

I am in for one as well. More if it works.

This is going to get really pricey. I cannot resonably justify the cost per tuner for this setup so I am just not going to tell her how much it all cost. Our own little version of "dont ask dont tell."

If it all works then there probably wont be any questions about cost anyway.

Speaking of it all working, how about a little re-assurance from someone at sage that it is going to work?

Jesse

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by Jesse

I am in for one as well. More if it works.

This is going to get really pricey. I cannot resonably justify the cost per tuner for this setup so I am just not going to tell her how much it all cost. Our own little version of "dont ask dont tell."

If it all works then there probably wont be any questions about cost anyway.

Speaking of it all working, how about a little re-assurance from someone at sage that it is going to work?

Jesse

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-04/...d-pvr-support/

[personalt]

This was my question too.. I am doing a directv upgrade this weekend to the dual tuner HR21. I am getting it as a free upgrade from my HR10-250 but wondering with Sage TV with or without this Hauppauge box I would be better off with two regular HD DirectTV boxes then a dual tuner directv pvr.

I assume since Sage via this Hauppauge box rides on the component outputs it cant see that second tuner anyway.. And if Iwant to replicate what the directv pvr does to record two shows I should get two basic directv HD boxes and/or get hdhomerun or similar to pick up these hd shows via over the air when I can?

Originally Posted by Shield

So here's my questions - I have 2 Dual tuner HR21-700's from Directv. I assume this would always "tie up" one of the tuners? I'm just confused if I'm recording two things at once, will it only output whatever I'm watching?
Should I just get a single tuner mpeg-4 H20 Directv box and let this Hauppage box control it?
Will there be guide data for this in Sage?