Digiguide or other EPG

[Tarant]

Hi,

Ananova ceases listings is not good news. :-(

As others have said, I dont seem to be able to get my regions listing for BBC and ITV (Anglia etc) from tv_grab_uk_rt.

SageTV is nothing without EPG data, I`m just hoping (praying) that Frey introduce integrated EPG data for the UK soon.

Regards.

[jimbobuk]

agreed.. I just started playing with V2.. and its ok.. but i noticed programs missing.. then i notice failure to get more listings.. and now annanova is gone.. its all going downhill... just as it was getting good.. am trying Radio Times now but its clumsy.. does anyone have a config file for every sky channel of worth.. its horrible having to manually type search filters and not having a list of channels you've added so far.. also when you have a list of options come up by typing "sky" you can't say i want 04-13... i assume you can't anyways..

Anyways i think we need to contact digiguide and get them on board.. i just fear this wouldn't be an option.. I sure hope so.. there are ways for it to work with snapstream, triggering PVRs but i don't know how it would work with Sage.. it really needs to be a license based thing that Sage do with them.. thats the only way its going to happen realistically.. tho with v2 coming/testing i doubt Sage have the time to even look into this.. it is sadly now becoming that or resigning our PVRs to history whilst we wait.... CRAP!!!!!

I only hope RT stays up, the bbc have a nice bandwidth... lets hope there isn't too many of us

[msm]

Unfortunaly digiguide have no interest with working with other companies as they are developing a pvr around their software

Might be worth trying to check out a few other online listings and writting a grabber, but for the moment rt is the one to go for - just takes alot longer to get the stuff

[jimbobuk]

I dunno.. I've created a post on their forum asking about it.. it would really be nice to have.. its either that or nothing really.. i guess when radiotimes grabber gets better (as its patched atm) in the full release that'll help its just so slow at the moment.. can't we scrap some programme information and just got basic start stop, channel, programme name, episode name info.. the kind you would imagine would fit on a page with lots of programmes on to speed up the grabber..

anyways onto digiguide.. does this post show some potential in them wanting to work with people before they get their own solution online

http://forums.digiguide.com/topic.asp?id=10925

This is the post that i created

http://forums.digiguide.com/topic.asp?id=12366

[jimbobuk]

This looks a promising site though i don't know anythign about xmltv grabbers... the fact that each page has an entire days worth of programming with some comments too... where are xmltv grabbers hanging out.. how hard is it?!? I am a programmer but i dont know if i have the time to do this.. if its not too hard it may be fun..

Ohh here is the site..

http://www.mydigiguide.com/dgx/wbl.d...websitez%2ecom

[msm]

I keep hearing comments like that from Digiguide, and would welocme them supporting third party software. But, i can;t beleive people have not gone to them wiht the idea. I mean, if a comapnay like Sage basically made us pay for Digiguide (£9.00 a year is nothing) and basically acted as a conduit for the data then we would ge thte best of both worlds, Sage would probably take a large portion of the UK marketand digiguide would get more sales....

Lets hope eh

That second we page looks promising. I'm wondering whether a better approach is for the grabber to actaully save all the relevant pages and then make the grab offline - -two main advanteges been that the web page does not experience the "grabber" and we do not tie up bandwith on thesite

One to keep in mind anyway,

Matt

[leejsmith]

what if one person with a fast connecton downloaded from the web site eg radio times and created the epgdata.xml and put it into a ftp site. then only memebers of the ftp could download just the epg data.

just a thougth.

[jimbobuk]

i was thinking the same thing its just grabbers in general i guess are slightly on the dodgy side!?? as in are you stealing that info.. i dunno as its up on their site but it must have some copyrights attached to it.. so the problem with someone hosting a file is that they would be a possible target perhaps.. its a shame as we could obviously

a) remove the network hit to any site from all the grabbers
b) make it easier for most people to use

[msm]

Totally right jimbobuk. Unfortunaly, the data is copyright.XMLTV has always erred on the side of illeigiality, and if you were hosting a site with the data on in XML I suspect they weould come on you like a ton of bricks.

Matt

[danward79]

Hi

I have posted my support for the bid at digiguide, has sagetv been approached yet?

Dan

[leejsmith]

Originally posted by msm
Totally right jimbobuk. Unfortunaly, the data is copyright.XMLTV has always erred on the side of illeigiality, and if you were hosting a site with the data on in XML I suspect they weould come on you like a ton of bricks.

Matt

if you read the t/c of the mydigiguide site it says no tools are to be used to collect information from this site.

does anyone have a patched xmltv to collect the extra channles from radiotimes ? i have spent 2 days trying to get xmltv to run under cygwin and just cant get it to work.

[jimbobuk]

if you read the t/c of the mydigiguide site it says no tools are to be used to collect information from this site.

I'd not seen this... crap... though as the other comment goes its doubtful whether any grabber is actually legal...

As for the RT grabber... I'm using the latest version of the windows exe... I only tried quickly with a selection of channels that i wanted to record from the most

bbc1, 2, 3
ITV (central preferably but its not listed)
Channel 4
Channel 5
Sky One
Sky One Mix
E4
E4+1 (don't know if that was listed)

that'd be the minimal channels i could get by with to be able to record what i want to watch the most.. I did try getting sky movies 1 too but i dont think that came down properly.. i had no data when i loaded it into Sage.

[jimbobuk]

actually i just looked now and the one big problem i have at the moment is no bbc1, bbc2, itv for any other region than london.. has this been fixed with this new patch?

[jimbobuk]

Is there any form of digiguide export from within the main digiguide program.. I know its been described as not very useful info that you can get out but to be honest for now I would quite happily give up on show descriptions if it could just get the program names and times... I guess installing it to see is the only way to see

[leejsmith]

the patch gives you all 201 channles including regional bbc and itv.
you have to register with rt and ceate your lineup to store a cookie that the patch uses.

i need mtv,nick , cartoon network plus a couple of others.

[Zeno]

Could anyone possibly send me this patched version please?

[jimbobuk]

I believe the patch only works with cygwin or similar at the moment, there is no windows version is there?

[jimbobuk]

digiguide have responded back about Sage being able to write an addon for Sage to use digiguide.. not sure how much access this add on has.. if its just to schedule then its obviously no good.. if its a barebones EPG it'd be nice.. hopefully they'll reply back with more info

[msm]

It reads to me that they mean like other add-ons have been written ..i.e you use the Digiguide software as the EPG and by putting in markers etc you can cause Sage to start recording, stop recording. It would mean a large part of the Sage would not be usable (IR, possible conflict management etc), and it wouldn;t be integrated into the guide.

I had experience of this when using showshifter, one of the big reasons i moved away from that was because there was no integrated guide and you had to do things externally,

Matt

[msm]

Looks like mythTV creator? is canvasing opinion on the viability of obtaining uk data. Place your support here http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp....tv.general/744
if you are willing to pay for a service. I think an unencrypted source of data will not be allowed by the suppliers of the data, but see no reason why encrypted streams for all the PVR software in the UK can not be created by willing users.

Matt