STV: SageMC 16x9 Version 6.x (latest dev build)

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by geogecko

What's required? I can try, if you like!

I'd send you an STV containing the timing code, and you'd have to run it with debug logging enabled. But if it is the same issue as with the MVP, then it's probably not the Pause() command. I measured it here on my MVP, and the Pause() takes about 5 ms, but the dialog comes up after 5 secs ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by snoopy

Ok that's enough... I know I'm off topic but all this talk of properties files is enough to drive a dog crazy! Someone please explain to me if SageMC uses Sagetv.properties sageclient.properties or what? when? how?

* moved to the relevant topic *

• using SageTV server (non-service mode): Sage.properties
• using SageTV server (service mode): the service (non-UI part) uses Sage.properties, the UI uses SageClient.properties
• using SageTV client: SageClient.properties
• using MVP/Placeshifter: using xxxx.properties in 'clients' folder

Now this can be a little more complicated since STV code can explicitly use Get/SetServerProperty to access properties in Sage.properties on the server, even if the STV is running on a client. Hence stanger89's recommendation that STVi developers should not use it, unless there is a compelling reason to do so.

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by StephaneM

Hello Dirk,

Nevertheless on SageMC can be easily added a "Dolby Digital" logo and a "16:9" logo into the program guide (other screens are not needed because the information is already listed).

Hi Stephane,

nice addition. Do you supply those icons with you XMLTV importer ? If so, what are the filenames ?

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by MeInMaui

I should be able to whip something up. I have glassy icon generation fairly streamlined now, so it shouldn't take too long. Just give me the naming convention and any suggestions on how you want it to look and I should be able to have something in a few days.

Aloha,
Mike

Hi Mike,

name should be series.png
My suggestion would be same icon just different color (maybe blue or green), but you or others may have better ideas.

Dirk

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by flachbar

I'd send you an STV containing the timing code, and you'd have to run it with debug logging enabled. But if it is the same issue as with the MVP, then it's probably not the Pause() command. I measured it here on my MVP, and the Pause() takes about 5 ms, but the dialog comes up after 5 secs ...

Dirk

Sounds good. I'll send you a PM with my e-mail.

It may take a while to get it to happen. It seems to be random. But, I'll try a few times, right after starting Sage, so hopefully, the log files won't be too long.

BTW, if using service mode, which log file do you need, sage or sageclient? Or both?

[scm]

Originally Posted by flachbar

Yep, I checked, and it has to wait until the Pause() command returns. Not sure if this can take that long, but I could provide a debug build which logs the duration of the call if someone who experiences this issue would like to try ...

Dirk

Dirk,

I'll be willing to try also. My situation is pretty constant, so I don't think it will be a problem recreating it.

What is the cause of the slow animation on the details screen? Do you have any idea? Can I turn off the animation for this screen only?

Steve

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by scm

Dirk,

I'll be willing to try also. My situation is pretty constant, so I don't think it will be a problem recreating it.

What is the cause of the slow animation on the details screen? Do you have any idea? Can I turn off the animation for this screen only?

Steve

Steve,

please PM me your email address ...

Dirk

[popechild]

Originally Posted by flachbar

Hi Mike,

name should be series.png
My suggestion would be same icon just different color (maybe blue or green), but you or others may have better ideas.

Dirk

Ooohhh, yeah, that's better than my idea (well, not the "make it awesome" idea, I still like that one!). Maybe use the same series icon but make it clear/glassy like your clear selection bars! That way when it's clear it just means that there's a series for that show, when it's red it means it'll actually record. I like!!

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by flachbar

nice addition. Do you supply those icons with you XMLTV importer ? If so, what are the filenames ?

No, I don't supply them. For now, it's more a request for comments. I put this in my setup for two days now and if you think it's useful (and other too => the main issue I see is that it's better than nothing but not perfect as for instance if only one of the airing of a movie is in Dolby all airings will be flagged as Dolby, I'll suggest something for the next beta phase of SageTV to enable storing "Misc" infos for a particular airing) you can put it in the SageMC base (Maybe with another option to either enable dolby digital and 16:9 logos).

Anyway I attached the logos I use, but maybe someone can come with something better. In the zip are included : 16:9 logo, dolby digital logo and dolby surround logo (dolby surround should be displayed if "Misc" info contains "surround").

The full list of option for sound format is :

* mono
* stereo
* dolby (though I don't know if this one is useful because it only applies in Theater, for a TV broadcast it's either stereo or surround, so you can safely ignore it)
* dolby digital
* surround

Regards,
Stéphane.

[tlimon]

Can you help me? I've searched throught this post and didn't find this problem mentioned. I load the SageMC 16x9 (albeit, in the C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\STVs directory) on my version 5.0 Client. I get menus with black backgrounds, transparent overlapping menus, and general unusability. I have a heck of a time getting to the setup menu to change it back. I've uploaded a screen shot to illustrate the problem.

ATI video Card
DVI 16x9 LCD monitor
Accelleration enabled (same prob disabled)
Transparent menus (same prob disabled)
P4 3.0 Ghz
1GB ram
SATA 160 GB drive

Can you help? I'd love to wow my family with this stv.
--tim

[ke6guj]

Originally Posted by tlimon

I have a heck of a time getting to the setup menu to change it back.

If you are having a hard time navigating to the setup menu, then don't. It would probably be easier to just shut down Sage and manually edit the sageclient.properties files to point to the original SageTV3.xml file.

The line you want would be something like this:
STV=G\:\\Program Files\\SageTV\\SageTV\\STVs\\SageTV3\\SageTV3.xml

I think I would try and set the STV back to the stock STV and then try redoing the SageMC install.

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by flachbar

Subgroups would really complicate the whole thing dramatically ... Can't you organize your videos in folders and use the File System view for that ?

Hi Dirk,

Would it be possible (read not too much work) to allow a video to be a member of multiple groups? That way a theoretical childrens' disney movie could be a member of both the 'Childrens' group and the 'Online Movies' group. As more groups are added, I sometimes forget how I originally decided to organize the videos. With multiple group membership, a video could essentially be cross-referenced in all groups in which it might logically be contained. I hope I'm making sense here. It hard to tell with the sleep deprivation.....yawn.....sorry......zzzzzzz Thanks for reading yet another one of my rambles.

Aloha,
Mike

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by tlimon

(albeit, in the C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\STVs directory)
--tim

There's your problem.

You should unzip it to:
C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\
or
C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\

However, what version of Sage are you using? I would have thought if it's 5, you should not have the Frey folder anymore... I think in order for the most recent version to work, you need a relatively new version of Sage, one that supports XML STV files.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by geogecko

I would have thought if it's 5, you should not have the Frey folder anymore...

It doesn't hurt to check the version of the one in question, of course, but while the default install dir is now "SageTV", quite a few people will always just install an upgrade on top of the previous installation & thus still have the "Frey Tech" dir name... I know I do & I certainly have the latest version installed.

Keeping the original install dir & just installing on top of it is easier than doing a compeltely new install + reconfiguring everything, or even editing an old properties file to update the dirs to point to SageTV instead of Frey.

- Andy

[scm]

Originally Posted by tlimon

Can you help me? I've searched throught this post and didn't find this problem mentioned. I load the SageMC 16x9 (albeit, in the C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\STVs directory) on my version 5.0 Client. I get menus with black backgrounds, transparent overlapping menus, and general unusability. I have a heck of a time getting to the setup menu to change it back. --tim

I've experienced the same problem. One time it happened, I found the problem was with the background image file. I have a custom image, and SageMC suddenly decided it didn't like it. Once I corrected the background image, it worked again. I have also had this break when I've entered into Studio. I didn't change a thing, but when I returned to Sage, I had the black screen issue. I had to find one of the back-up Sage.property files in my folder to cure it that time.

[tlimon]

It works after the stv reinstall on the main (server) computer. Thanks for all the replies. The directory was the issue as identified by geogecko.

Can anyone tell me if there is an STV that mimicks the original SageTV3 in functionality? My family has gotten used to the navigation of the menus via the arrow keys on my universal remote. The 16x9 relies heavily on the menu and exit buttons. I'm looking for basically a new theme. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by tlimon

My family has gotten used to the navigation of the menus via the arrow keys on my universal remote. The 16x9 relies heavily on the menu and exit buttons.

Hi tlimon,

did you use the latest STV (6.9b), and did you set the option "Left As Back" in the SageMC options ? With this enabled you can basically navigate anywhere with the arrow keys on the remote. If you still spot places where this doesnt work, just let me know and I'll fix it ...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by MeInMaui

Hi Dirk,

Would it be possible (read not too much work) to allow a video to be a member of multiple groups? That way a theoretical childrens' disney movie could be a member of both the 'Childrens' group and the 'Online Movies' group. As more groups are added, I sometimes forget how I originally decided to organize the videos. With multiple group membership, a video could essentially be cross-referenced in all groups in which it might logically be contained. I hope I'm making sense here. It hard to tell with the sleep deprivation.....yawn.....sorry......zzzzzzz Thanks for reading yet another one of my rambles.

Aloha,
Mike

Hi Mike,

although possible, this would actually require a lot of work ... First of all there is the problem that I dont have separate columns in the db record available, so that I would need to store all groups in the same column (well this wouldn't actually be too hard, I'd just have to do some string parsing on store/retrieval). The much bigger problem is that the group view is heavily using the Sage db APIs to group and sort the lists, which would not work any more with a string containing multiple groups. I would have to re-implement the grouping/sorting myself, and this involves quite a bit of work ...

But I keep this in mind for the future ...
And now get some sleep ...!

Dirk

[CPA]

A couple of weeks ago I posted a feature request for the music section. I was asking if it was possible to add an "add to que" button for the genre section. As it is currently you can send the entire catalog of multiple artists to the que, but not multiple genres. Right now you can really only listen to one genre at a time. This is a function that J River offers that, for me, would really complete the SageMC music section. Does this sound appealing to anyone else? I listen alot by genre and sometimes I don't want to just listen to jazz, i may want to listen to jazz and R&B and shuffle between the genres, etc. Is this possible? Is there a workaround? Am I missing something?

Also, It would be great if there were a "Now Playing" screen with larger album artwork and track info. I am using the winamp plugin and when i try to use the visualize button, the whole computer freezes. I know FSE and VMR9 are probably the culprit but I need these for studder free video. The thing is, i don't even want to use actual visualizations, just larger album art with artist/album/track, etc. Any ideas?

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by popechild

Ooohhh, yeah, that's better than my idea (well, not the "make it awesome" idea, I still like that one!). Maybe use the same series icon but make it clear/glassy like your clear selection bars! That way when it's clear it just means that there's a series for that show, when it's red it means it'll actually record. I like!!

Hey! Get out of my head! I was thinking the same thing. I just have to find some time to sneak onto the computer to do it.

[OT]The little time I have had over the last few days has been spent trying to get my MVP working again. I finally got it working last night, so I'm crossing my fingers that my system stays stable for a while. I'm also planning on completely restructuring my computers/network in the next week or so. I'm finally going to set up a headless server in another room and change my living room htpc to a client, as well as stepping up to a gigabit network. I've been having a number of stability issues that I think are probably temperature and/or stress related since I stepped up to 1080p. I'm hoping that separating the system into a server/client arrangement will help.[/OT]

Anyway, I will get the icons done before I start tearing apart my computers.

Aloha,
Mike