STV: SageMC 16x9 Version 6.x (latest dev build)

[Addict]

Originally Posted by Brent

Al, when you are "reinstalling SageMC" you should be doing this one of two ways:

• From the STV detailed setup menu Advanced>"SageTV Application Package (.STV or .XML) File"> then enter and browse to the SageMC16x9.xml file and hit enter. This is just like you would have when you first installed SageMC the first time
• Alternatively, when you are installing an update over the current SageMC, within SageMC you can go to the settings menu of SageMC and select "Import STV" and select that SageMC16x9.xml file and hit enter.

One important thing to note is that you should be downloading the "upgrade" version of SageMC HERE - not the full install that you use for a first-time install.

I hope this helps. If not, let us know.

Hey Brent,

Bullet #1: Yep.

Bullet #2: Yep.

(both do the same)

Regarding upgrade vs. full version: That's what I had been doing (upgrading), but was having problems with the Netflix plugin. Per the recommendations (at least, how I interpreted them), I installed the full SageMC package. I figured I'd lose some settings, but not that big of a deal. Either way, I can't imagine why installing the full version instead of just the changes would do something like this?

Thoughts?

EDIT: I should note that it seems most of the pop-up windows look just fine. Everything else (seems to be theme-wise?) is a mess.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Addict

Hey Brent,

Bullet #1: Yep.

Bullet #2: Yep.

(both do the same)

yes, both do the same - I was just making sure you did load the xml correctly which you did.

Regarding upgrade vs. full version: That's what I had been doing (upgrading), but was having problems with the Netflix plugin. Per the recommendations (at least, how I interpreted them), I installed the full SageMC package. I figured I'd lose some settings, but not that big of a deal. Either way, I can't imagine why installing the full version instead of just the changes would do something like this?

I'm not sure to be honest, but I do know I've always loaded the update version and not re installed the full version on top of itself.

Any chance you have a backup of the SageTV folder from before this happened? If so you could try re-loading from that. Note: If you do this, save your current sageTV folder in another place for a backup in case things don't get better.

Hopefully someone else will chime in with some suggestions as I'm out of them. Keep me posted on your progress.

[Nick_W]

Hi,

When playing a DVD I want the FF/Rew buttons to skip the times I have defined, like in Live TV.

Instead of this it goes into FF mode, like on a VCR! I have multispeed disabled.

Is there a way to change this in SageMC (it works fine in the default STV)?

TIA,

Nick.

[Mitch G]

OK. I'm (mostly) successfully running SageTV 6.3.10 and SageMC 6.3.7.
But, I'm having trouble with the new "customizable online services" feature introduced in 6.3.9.
This feature lets you edit a file to add your own podcast feeds.
Although my custom feed is able to be accessed in the standard Sage interface, it does not show up on the SageMC interface.


Mitch

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by Mitch G

OK. I'm (mostly) successfully running SageTV 6.3.10 and SageMC 6.3.7.
But, I'm having trouble with the new "customizable online services" feature introduced in 6.3.9.
This feature lets you edit a file to add your own podcast feeds.
Although my custom feed is able to be accessed in the standard Sage interface, it does not show up on the SageMC interface.


Mitch

New features in the default STV aren't automatically added into SageMC, they need to be ported manually by someone which can take a little while.

[Mitch G]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

New features in the default STV aren't automatically added into SageMC, they need to be ported manually by someone which can take a little while.

Yeah I figured it was something like that. So, I guess my post is a feature request.

Actually, if someone pointed me to a file or two the showed a similar feature, I might be willing to take a crack at porting the change.


Mitch

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Mitch G

I'm having trouble with the new "customizable online services" feature introduced in 6.3.9.
This feature lets you edit a file to add your own podcast feeds.

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

New features in the default STV aren't automatically added into SageMC, they need to be ported manually by someone which can take a little while.

Originally Posted by Mitch G

Yeah I figured it was something like that. So, I guess my post is a feature request.

It's on the to-do list based on this post. Dirk and Mike have been pretty good about getting those features added to SageMC. I'd guess we'll see it in the next month or so at least.

[skyeclad]

Hey guys,

I had a problem over the weekend, thanks to a faulty USB header my external HDD decided to lose all my video file entries on one of my video drives. I ended up having to use a NTFS file recovery utility to retrieve the files but thankfully I didn't lose anything. Well, I put the files into another Sage video directory on a reliable disk where my other files are located and restarted SageMC. The shows automatically showed up in my recordings list with all episode guide data intact however I couldn't play the files. Instead, they automatically start with the Stop, Restart, Delete screen not an error message. I almost half expected them to say that the file wasn't there but it finds the files but it can't play them.

I try to restart them and the screen appears immediately. I then sent them to my media import directory and tried to play them there but only a few of them imported automatically. They played fine but when I manually tried to play one of the others, it again popped up the Stop, Restart, Delete screen and would not play no matter how many times I restarted.

Here's the odd thing, just to make sure the files weren't corrupted I ran them through Windows media player and they were all A-OK. What gives?

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by mkanet

Size: 31.3 KB (32,094 bytes)
Size on disk: 31.3 KB (32,094 bytes)
Date Modified: ‎Tuesday, ‎October ‎24, ‎2006, ‏‎12:57:00 AM

Yeah, that seems right

I dont have a xerces.jar anywhere on my entire filesystem.

Well according to your log file it's in your classpath:

Sun 3/2 18:35:25.650 user.dir2=C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV
Sun 3/2 18:35:25.652 classpath=C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\Sage.jar;C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\xerces.jar;C:\Program

So either it's indeed in your SageTV directory, or the entry is just a leftover in your environment settings (System properties / Advanced / Environment Variables / CLASSPATH), in which case it doesn't harm...

Dirk

[mkanet]

 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 2CE8-B6E0

 Directory of C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\JARs

03/03/2008  03:19 PM    <DIR>          .
03/03/2008  03:19 PM    <DIR>          ..
09/12/2007  08:45 PM            54,829 activation.jar
07/28/2007  02:55 AM            46,725 commons-codec-1.3.jar
05/14/2006  08:38 PM           571,259 commons-collections-3.2.jar
05/07/2006  09:22 AM           279,781 commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar
07/28/2007  02:55 AM           279,383 commons-httpclient-3.0.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM           268,794 commons-jxpath-1.1.jar
07/28/2007  02:55 AM            38,015 commons-logging-1.0.4.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM            22,327 commons-logging-api.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM            31,605 commons-logging.jar
02/22/2008  05:16 PM            17,477 df_sageutils.jar
10/04/2007  08:40 PM             2,225 df_sleep_timer.jar
12/03/2007  12:35 PM           539,093 gkusnick.sagetv.jar
03/03/2008  03:19 PM                 0 jars.txt
12/06/2006  09:18 AM           263,281 jcifs-1.1.6.jar
03/23/2005  09:45 AM            72,906 jdic.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM           106,806 jflac-1.0.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM           113,695 jl1.0.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM            10,240 jnlp.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM             9,410 jogg-0.0.7.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM            63,868 jorbis-0.0.15.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM           108,782 jsch-20040429.jar
09/12/2007  08:45 PM           358,085 log4j.jar
09/12/2007  08:45 PM           355,030 mail.jar
12/15/2007  06:27 PM            15,590 mailcheck.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM            28,171 mp3spi1.9.2.jar
05/21/2006  12:53 PM             9,604 mtsa.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM           148,179 mx4j-impl.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM           261,135 mx4j-jmx.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM           167,500 mx4j-remote.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM           491,164 mx4j-tools.jar
03/02/2008  06:38 PM    <DIR>          NetFlix
03/02/2008  06:31 PM           101,041 netflix.jar
10/20/2005  03:00 PM            28,080 nielm_getrssnews.jar
09/21/2007  09:57 AM            41,185 nielm_sageimdb.jar
10/24/2006  12:57 AM            32,094 nielm_sagemenureader.jar
02/05/2006  12:30 PM            14,637 nielm_sageutls.jar
12/21/2007  03:47 AM           374,304 nielm_sagewebserver.jar
12/21/2007  01:51 AM            52,852 nielm_sagexmlinfo.jar
07/28/2007  02:55 AM            20,542 rsslib4j-0.2.jar
02/22/2008  05:16 PM            58,264 sagemc.jar
03/29/2006  09:26 AM            89,764 sbbi-jmx-1.0.jar
05/04/2006  07:56 AM           109,503 sbbi-upnplib-1.0.3.jar
12/04/2005  02:25 PM            31,789 servlet.jar
12/09/2006  06:09 PM            51,117 slimplayer.jar
05/18/2007  10:06 AM         1,772,311 SoftSqueeze.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM           110,481 tritonus_share.jar
09/20/2006  09:10 AM            17,003 vorbisspi1.0.2.jar
              46 File(s)      7,639,926 bytes
               3 Dir(s)  177,685,045,248 bytes free

This is what's in my class path:
.;C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\ext\QTJava.zip


So.... where did it come from??? Any ideas whats wrong?

Originally Posted by flachbar

Yeah, that seems right

Well according to your log file it's in your classpath:

Sun 3/2 18:35:25.650 user.dir2=C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV
Sun 3/2 18:35:25.652 classpath=C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\Sage.jar;C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\xerces.jar;C:\Program

So either it's indeed in your SageTV directory, or the entry is just a leftover in your environment settings (System properties / Advanced / Environment Variables / CLASSPATH), in which case it doesn't harm...

Dirk

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by mkanet

[code]
This is what's in my class path:
.;C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\ext\QTJava.zip


So.... where did it come from??? Any ideas whats wrong?

This entry is fine, put there by the Java install.


You listed the files in your JARs directory, but you should look in your SageTV directory: C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\xerces.jar;

I'm not saying that this is the problem, but it might be worth a try


Dirk

[skyeclad]

Originally Posted by flachbar

Please check in your Sage property file if the path (sagemc/webtext/lynx_path or sagemc/webtext/w3m_path) is correct. It should point to the executable in your cygwin\bin directory.


Dirk

Dirk that did it for my RSS problems! Thank you. Now that I know about the Sage.Clients file, I hope to be more self-sufficient in the future.

Now if I can figure out this "corrupted HDD" saved Mpeg problem.

[mkanet]

Dirk, its not there either. In fact, its not anywhere on my C: drive. It must be a pretty old jar file. I'm not sure where it came from and why it's still in the path. I appreciate your time. I've REALLY wanted to copy the style I have on my main menu to the rest of my menus for a while now...

C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\.

Originally Posted by flachbar

This entry is fine, put there by the Java install.


You listed the files in your JARs directory, but you should look in your SageTV directory: C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\xerces.jar;

I'm not saying that this is the problem, but it might be worth a try


Dirk

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by mkanet

Dirk, its not there either. In fact, its not anywhere on my C: drive. It must be a pretty old jar file. I'm not sure where it came from and why it's still in the path. I appreciate your time. I've REALLY wanted to copy the style I have on my main menu to the rest of my menus for a while now...

C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\.

Hi Michael,

right now I don't know what else to tell you. If you are really desperate, I can only think of one other thing to try: an absolute clean start with a new SageTV install. Although the following procedure should be absolutely safe, use at you own risk:

• shut down UI and server
• make a full copy of your root SageTV directory (which contains 'Common' and 'SageTV') including all subdirectories, let's name it 'SageTV.backup'
• uninstall SageTV
• delete the old SageTV directory completely (so that no old files remain)
• install SageTV again (into the exact same path as the original installation)
• install the full SageMC download package
• copy your Sage.properties, SageClient.properties, sagemc_menu.xml, and Wiz.bin files from SageTV.backup to the new install directory. If you use a custom theme, you might want to copy this back too
• start SageTV, it will probably start up with the default STV
• load the SageMC STV
• try if cloning works
• if everything is well, you can start reinstalling your other plugins, one by one. After each install, check if the cloning functionality still works

If a clean reinstall still doesn't doesn't make a difference, or if you need to go back to the original install for any other reason, then

• shut down server and UI
• rename the new 'SageTV' root directory to something else, e.g. 'SageTV.junk'
• rename your 'SageTV.backup' back to 'SageTV'
• start server and UI, everything should be back as before. You can delete the new 'SageTV.junk' directory again

One warning: I assume you are running Vista with UAC disabled. If you have UAC enabled, then I do not know for sure if the above steps will backup all your original SageTV files, I think that in this case Vista will save some of the configuration files in a different location...

And again: use at your own risk - I am not using Vista myself, but I have done this procedure on my XP machine in the past without issues.

Dirk

[mkanet]

Dirk, there at least two other different people that have reported this same exact issue. Isn't there another way to find out what's causing the problem? Maybe there's something in common that all of us have? I could be wrong, but the suggestion you gave me is presuming that one of the imports I'm using is causing this problem. I am just using the most popular and newest imports... nothing out of the ordinary or old.

1) MovieTimes for SageMC
2) Netflix for SageMC
3) AMG for SageMC
4) Slimplayer for SageMC
5) Toolbar fox SageMC
6) Sleep Timer (This is the only relatively old one which needs updating for the latest sageMC).

If there's no good solution for us, maybe you could offer a manual way for us to copy the custom settings we have for the Main Menu for other dynamic menus. This would still be easier than reinstalling everything one by one.

Thanks again,
Michael

Originally Posted by flachbar

Hi Michael,

right now I don't know what else to tell you. If you are really desperate, I can only think of one other thing to try: an absolute clean start with a new SageTV install. Although the following procedure should be absolutely safe, use at you own risk:

• shut down UI and server
• make a full copy of your root SageTV directory (which contains 'Common' and 'SageTV') including all subdirectories, let's name it 'SageTV.backup'
• uninstall SageTV
• delete the old SageTV directory completely (so that no old files remain)
• install SageTV again (into the exact same path as the original installation)
• install the full SageMC download package
• copy your Sage.properties, SageClient.properties, sagemc_menu.xml, and Wiz.bin files from SageTV.backup to the new install directory. If you use a custom theme, you might want to copy this back too
• start SageTV, it will probably start up with the default STV
• load the SageMC STV
• try if cloning works
• if everything is well, you can start reinstalling your other plugins, one by one. After each install, check if the cloning functionality still works

If a clean reinstall still doesn't doesn't make a difference, or if you need to go back to the original install for any other reason, then

• shut down server and UI
• rename the new 'SageTV' root directory to something else, e.g. 'SageTV.junk'
• rename your 'SageTV.backup' back to 'SageTV'
• start server and UI, everything should be back as before. You can delete the new 'SageTV.junk' directory again

One warning: I assume you are running Vista with UAC disabled. If you have UAC enabled, then I do not know for sure if the above steps will backup all your original SageTV files, I think that in this case Vista will save some of the configuration files in a different location...

And again: use at your own risk - I am not using Vista myself, but I have done this procedure on my XP machine in the past without issues.

Dirk

[bialio]

Could you try installing on another computer and see if you have the same issues there? If you have another computer that can run sage (just the UI - video capabilities are not required) then you can easily test stuff.

I mean really, who only has 1 computer these days

btl.

[geogecko]

I'm only using MovieTimes and AMG, and have the same issue.

[mkanet]

Kricker, can you tell us what imports you have installed on your machine? There has to be something all of us have in common that's causing this significant feature to break.

Originally Posted by kricker

Is anyone else having problems cloning the main menu to the dynamic submenus and the reverse? It looks as some basic things clone over, but not the new advanced settings for each item on the screen.

[kricker]

I have:
google calander
SageMC AMG
Video Edit
Anit-favorites

Although I tested my cloning ability with no imports loaded.

I will test what it does if I clean out my .jar folder and only have what is intalled by SageMC. Then I will test using flachbar's method above. Gimme 1 hour to post back results.

Also, my cloning is only half broken. The basic layout is copied, but not the detailed stuff such as font sizes within each onscreen item.

[kricker]

I did not mess with any of my JAR files or install. All I did was disable the server.

I disabled Server and all cloning import/export functions work perfectly. With Sage server running and SageTV as a client, things do not work quite right as we have described earlier.

I also noticed that sizing the text with the icon menu has a strange anomaly. With Server off, the number that shows the size of the text is properly shown and changes as you increase or decrease the text size. With Server on, this does not happen. The number stays fixed as the text changes size.

After creating a export with Server off, I was able to import this when I turned server back on. But any changes I make and try to export will not work properly. I have to do all my edits with server off.