Considering switch to Dishnetwork, please help...?

[stanger89]

If it were IR, it would be easy, but the second remote is RF. I think creativity might be an understatement, might require some fancy engineering.

What I haven't been able to determine is if the second "zone" can be controlled by IR.

# TV-1 uses 3.0 IR Remote, green #1
# TV-2 uses 4.0 IR/UHF Pro Remote, blue #2

Which all I can tell for sure, is that "TV-2" can use IR.

-edit

Doesn't look good from the manual (that I finally found thanks to google).

[insomniac]

yea, doesnt look good...

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin...d.cgi?1946,1#5

Originally Posted by stanger89

If it were IR, it would be easy, but the second remote is RF. I think creativity might be an understatement, might require some fancy engineering.

What I haven't been able to determine is if the second "zone" can be controlled by IR.



Which all I can tell for sure, is that "TV-2" can use IR.

-edit

Doesn't look good from the manual (that I finally found thanks to google).

[insomniac]

I would guess that you could write a small plugin or use the existing exetuner or similar to control something like this:

PC-08 PC Commander

http://www.techcity.com.tw/2005.3/en...%20Control.htm

good luck finding specs though..

[blade]

$5 per box sounds right and is what I've read elsewhere. I did read something that stated if you're using more than 1 tuner you must keep a phone line connected or they'll charge an additional $5 per month for each tuner. The example they gave was if you had a 322 and it's not connected they'd charge an extra $5 for the 2nd tuner in the box.

From what I can gather it seems you'd be charged an extra $5 for having two 322's if they are connected to the phone line. If they weren't connected to a phone line you'd be charged $15-20 extra.

Even without a phone line connected you can still order pay per view; however, without the phone line they have no way of knowing you've ordered it so they can't bill you. That's why they want you to keep the boxes connected to the phone line. Of course the boxes have a limit on how much pay per view you can order without dialing in.

At least that's what I've read, none of it is first hand experience.

[stanger89]

I'll have to check on that surcharge for not having them connected, since won't have a landline.

Tangentially, does anyone know if the DTV D10 boxes support serial control? (They have the port)

[heffe2001]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I'll have to check on that surcharge for not having them connected, since won't have a landline.

Tangentially, does anyone know if the DTV D10 boxes support serial control? (They have the port)

http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&highlight=d10

[stanger89]

Saw that after I got my lazy but to the search page

[insomniac]

im actually in process of taking the DTV leap because ive always wondered how much faster the serial control is. Hopefully it will be a good thing

being that I do not need local channels via satellite, D10's will work just fine for me.

I believe you can also make them install an antenna to get broadcast locals ...

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by insomniac

im actually in process of taking the DTV leap because ive always wondered how much faster the serial control is. Hopefully it will be a good thing

The thing making me lean to Dish over DTV is the increased cost of DTV for what I want. DTV would be about $52-57/month depending on $ boxes, vs Dish for $36-48 depending on package.

[blade]

All I really watch is local stations and usa, sci-fi etc... I don't care about premium channels or sports. So for me the Dishnetwork's Top 60 plan would be all I'd need. It would be a good bit cheaper than going with digital cable, which is a waste because I think most of the channels I watch would still be analog. The only sticking point for me is being limited to 2 of the 4 tuners with Sage.

How would you guys compare Dishnetwork's SD content to Analog cable when both are displayed at 720p? If the dish is substantially better (as in an obvious improvement, not something you have to really examine to notice) dropping down to 2 tuners might be worth it to me.

[insomniac]

I found that in order to get the channels (normal) that i wanted, i would have to buy the top 180 package in dish, and the plus package in DTV. Both of which resulting in close pricing. For me, even though DTV may end up being a little more expensive, its well worth fast channel change w/o the use of ir emitters.

now lets just hope that serial works as well as it should!

I.

Originally Posted by stanger89

The thing making me lean to Dish over DTV is the increased cost of DTV for what I want. DTV would be about $52-57/month depending on $ boxes, vs Dish for $36-48 depending on package.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by insomniac

...the top 180 package in dish, and the plus package in DTV.

Yeah between those I'd probably go DTV to get the serial control too.

[stanger89]

Here's a question for ya (anyone).

Do you know if DirecTV charges you the $5/month/box even if you buy your own boxen?

[JUC]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Here's a question for ya (anyone).

Do you know if DirecTV charges you the $5/month/box even if you buy your own boxen?

I believe they do

[Deborah Smith]

Originally Posted by insomniac

Just stack your boxes on top of each other , slap the UIRT in front of them, and assign different remote codes to them. Thats it!

Only caveat is that its much slower than Serial control..

Hello, Would you assign the different remote codes on the Dish or in Sage or Both? I would like to try this, I have two Dish3900 sitting in the basement. Well if it works with what I have now I'll be up on the roof installing a quad LNB. Thank you for any help you can give

Debbie

[insomniac]

you need to assign a remote id on the receiver(you can find out how to do this all over the web. I honestly cant remember. Been too long), then you would use different ir files (many are already provided by myself and others in this forum). cant remember who originally made them, but their names are u1irt and u2irt. Those would be used on the respective remote id's on the receiver.

I.

Originally Posted by Deborah Smith

Hello, Would you assign the different remote codes on the Dish or in Sage or Both? I would like to try this, I have two Dish3900 sitting in the basement. Well if it works with what I have now I'll be up on the roof installing a quad LNB. Thank you for any help you can give

Debbie

[dagar]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Here's a question for ya (anyone).

Do you know if DirecTV charges you the $5/month/box even if you buy your own boxen?

FWIW, the $5/per box/per month is an 'addressing fee' (IOW, we can get money from you fee, like everyone else does). Cox charges an addressing fee per box AND a rental per box (around $15 per STB per month.)

[Deborah Smith]

Originally Posted by insomniac

you need to assign a remote id on the receiver(you can find out how to do this all over the web. I honestly cant remember. Been too long), then you would use different ir files (many are already provided by myself and others in this forum). cant remember who originally made them, but their names are u1irt and u2irt. Those would be used on the respective remote id's on the receiver.

I.

Thanks I'll give it a try. Changing the receiver I got no prob, I just wasn't sure If I needed to edit the IR files as I read in another post with z1, z2 ect. Well I give it a try without changing if it doesn't work I'll try changing. Thanks for your help

Deborah

[Opus4]

You only need to configure the USB-UIRT for zone support if you are trying to blast the same set of IR codes to multiple devices; if the devices can use completely different IR codes, then zones are not needed.

- Andy