Utility: ShowAnalyzer Beta

[Ken C]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

No, they aren't. The default settings are the best compromise I can come up with for where ever you are.

Jere

Not quite sure what that meant, , but is there a way to obtain "better" settings or is it a matter of tweaking ?

Ken C

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by bhageman

1.) Happy to buy ShowAnalyzer to support your future development efforts, if I do, how do I install? Delete the 3rd party decoder dll files and reinstall? Or delete the whole app plus dll's?

None of the above. When you purchase SA, I will send you a key. When you get it, open SAConfig and click on the Operations menu. At the bottom you will see "Register". Click it, enter the info and you're set.

Originally Posted by bhageman

2.) I have Nielm's webserver installed and it launches at start-up, but I just moved from a static IP to a dynamic IP and haven't really bothered to use it lately, so I don't even know if it is working. Does it actually have to "work" (ie: accessible via the Internet) to get the ability to "turn off" SA on specific channels (ie: public television, etc...) or does it just need to be running. And will SA see it if it is running, or do I need to config SA?

It has to be accessable from whatever computer is running SA. If SA is being run on the same computer as SageTV, then just enter localhost as the server. To configure it, open SAConfig and take a look at the SageTV page. Enter the info and you're set.

Originally Posted by bhageman

3.) Sage plays about .5 second of commercials before skipping. No big deal, but when everything is this easy, people get nitpicky. Is there any kind of fine tuning that can be done to eliminate this either in SA or Sage? Someone else mentioned a 4 second gap or you mentioned checking logs, but I thought a half second gap might be correctable some other way.

Some STV's have the ability to "pad" the skipping. That is probably what you need to play with.

Jere

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by Ken C

Not quite sure what that meant, , but is there a way to obtain "better" settings or is it a matter of tweaking ?

Ken C

For now it is just a matter of tweaking, but I want to share my vision of the future. Imagine, if you will, a world where there is no need to mess with score modifiers, thresholds, and the like. Imagine a world where it just works. If it misses a commercial, just tell it what it miss marked (via a single keypress) and it will learn and improve.

But, for now, tweaking.

Jere

[JasonJoel]

Yup. That's what the winking smiley face is for.

Jere knows better. He can take a joke.

Jason

Originally Posted by Xsabre

Sarcasm doesn't translate well to text therefore I hope this is what it is.

[heffe2001]

Originally Posted by Blue

That's a pretty good lead-in for my question. What happens if the HTPC is rebooted while SA is processing? IIRC, SA initially creates a 0 KB .txt file, so I'm thinking that the next time DirMon scans the folder (after reboot) it won't (re)process the episode because the 0 KB .txt is present.

No worries about getting to my questions. Except for some minor issues, SA is working damn fine for me.

If you delete the incorrect txt file, it will process again next time dirmon runs (I do this from time to time on a specific show, to test SA when new versions come out).

[Ken C]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

For now it is just a matter of tweaking, but I want to share my vision of the future. Imagine, if you will, a world where there is no need to mess with score modifiers, thresholds, and the like. Imagine a world where it just works. If it misses a commercial, just tell it what it miss marked (via a single keypress) and it will learn and improve.

But, for now, tweaking.

Jere

Sounds like an old Beatles song !

Anyhow, any info on how to begin the tweaking process ?

Ken C

[Blue]

Originally Posted by heffe2001

If you delete the incorrect txt file, it will process again next time dirmon runs (I do this from time to time on a specific show, to test SA when new versions come out).

I guess what I was getting at is that the application should probably scan for these 0 KB files and reprocess the show. I've also deleted the .txt files for testing, so I know that's an option.

Not a big deal though. Our HTPC is rarely rebooted, and when it is, it's unlikely that SA will be processing.

[lovingHDTV]

I would prefer SA not delete 0kb .txt files. When SA fails to work correctly on a file, it results in a 0kb .txt file. If it just deleted the file and tried again, it would never stop running. Not a good thing, as I personally have 3 shows that cause SA to crash.

[ErsatzTom]

It could use another extension for currently processing shows rename them only when they are complete. However, unless your server is bouncing like mad it hardly seems like it will be a constant source of annoyance.

t

[heffe2001]

Originally Posted by Blue

I guess what I was getting at is that the application should probably scan for these 0 KB files and reprocess the show. I've also deleted the .txt files for testing, so I know that's an option.

If you have it rescan all the 0 kb files, then you rescan stuff you've told it to skip because of the channel/showname/etc. That would be if you're using DirMon to process. A better way, as said above me would be to use different names for the currently in progress scanning, and just pick up where it left off (if it could determine where it left off that is). For me it's not such a big deal, as the system only shuts down if there's a extended power outage. When we get moved into the new house though, I plan on adding more battery power to the system, so outages will become increasingly rare .

[abasu2003]

Jere,

just seeing where you were on the pause issue with SA. still doesn't seem to be working iwth the newest version.

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by abasu2003

just seeing where you were on the pause issue with SA. still doesn't seem to be working iwth the newest version.

Try as I might, I can't duplicate the problem. I have, however, added some log statements that will let me see the problem. That will be available in the next version, which will be released when I finish the topic of the next post.

Jere

[Jere_Jones]

A little tease:



You will be able to test new settings and see the results immediately instead of waiting for the file to rescan.

Jere

[stanger89]

Jere

[ErsatzTom]

For those of you who haven't tried ShowAnalyzer, GO DOWNLOAD IT NOW! I can't believe how well it works (and right out of the box too). I couldn't be happier with it. I already payed for it but I sent Jere some more money because it is just that good.

t

[JasonJoel]

SWEET.

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

A little tease:



You will be able to test new settings and see the results immediately instead of waiting for the file to rescan.

Jere

[bhageman]

Cayars has two settings "Commercial Skip Delay" and "Commercial Skip Offset", would these be the "padding" settings? And, if they are, do you know which one is the padding for the start of the skip and which one is the the end?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

Some STV's have the ability to "pad" the skipping. That is probably what you need to play with.
Jere

[Jere_Jones]

Commercial skip delay will "delay the skip", at which time it will skip to the end. Commercial skip offset will add or subtract that amout to all times.

If you would like to "shrink" the commercial by one second on each side, then set offset to -1000 and set delay to 2000.

Of course I could be completely off base as I am pulling this from my memory.

Jere

[bclenney]

First of all.. GREAT program! I can't believe how accurate it is right out of the box.. and really fast. I have had it skip for about 15 shows and 13 of the shows were 100% accurate. The two shows that had a problem were both episodes of Lost and both times it was the beginning sequence. Lost always does a flashback and fade to black before starting the show and it confuses the program. I was wondering if it is possible to have an alternate setup for a single show? Might be a stupid question, but there you go Again, Thanks for a wonderful program! Worth every penny!

Brian

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by bclenney

I was wondering if it is possible to have an alternate setup for a single show?

Yes, you can. Open up SAConfig and add a new profile. Call it whatever you want. Then go to the global settings. There you will see a tab called "Automatic Profile Selection". On that page you can specify which profile to use and when.

Since you want to set up a profile for the show, you can use the filename and don't need to set up nielm's webserver.

If you wanted to use a criteria other than the filename, (e.g. channel name, channel number, category, etc.) then you will need to have nielm's webserver set up and then fill-in the blanks on the SageTV page in SAConfig.

Don't forget to save!

Jere