Utility: ShowAnalyzer Beta

[geogecko]

Jere.

What preselector do you think works best, in your opinion? Mine is currently set to Manual, with a value of 33.

Jason.

[srothwell]

I'm sorry to sound like a complete moron (or maybe I'm just off my game today) but I don't see an installation instructions anywhere for installing SA (and I guess I read DirMon) to get to work with Sage.

Is there a step by step manual for getting all this to work?

thanks!

[rtengvad]

Originally Posted by Alwayslearnin

I have recently upgraded to version 0.7.11 and show analyzer stops in the middle of some shows and does not run at all against other shows.

I have to delete all of the .txt and .edl files and reset DIRMON and it will run. It usually runs fine for one day and then the next day it starts stopping again.

Any ideas? I do have a couple of the log files, but they do not seem to show any issues, at least from what I can tell.

Originally Posted by Alwayslearnin

I had been concerned with going with the Beta, but perhaps that is what I need to do as well. Thanks.

I’m afraid I’m having the same issue with the latest beta (0.8.3.55). It has been running with no problems for quite some time but, now it will not find all commercials. The txt files show "FILE PROCESSING COMPLETE" but it has not found anything or maybe only two numbers appears. If I delete the txt file to force a re-do SA correctly analysis the .mpg file.

And a few times SA has got stuck hitting 100% CPU load indefinitely

rtengvad

[Alwayslearnin]

Originally Posted by rtengvad

I’m afraid I’m having the same issue with the latest beta (0.8.3.55). It has been running with no problems for quite some time but, now it will not find all commercials. The txt files show "FILE PROCESSING COMPLETE" but it has not found anything or maybe only two numbers appears. If I delete the txt file to force a re-do SA correctly analysis the .mpg file.

And a few times SA has got stuck hitting 100% CPU load indefinitely

rtengvad

I did a complete uninstall (deleted the folder after I ran the uninstall), and then reinstalled the Beta application.

It has worked fine for me since.

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by geogecko

Jere.

What preselector do you think works best, in your opinion? Mine is currently set to Manual, with a value of 33.

Jason.

I use the Percentile preselector at a setting of 60. That lets me use the same settings on every channel. Where I am, CBS causes massive problems with the Manual preselector. Either CBS works and everything else is screwy or everything else is fine and CBS never finds anything. Of course, that was the reason for coming up with the preselector in the first place.

Jere

[Jere_Jones]

Oh, for those curious, I've just uploaded 0.8.4. As always, you can find it (and older versions) at www.dragonglobal.org/downloads.htm

The main improvements revolve around the SchoolHouse and how edge profiles are used. There is one major change: ShowAnalyzer will start a 2 week trial mode upon installation. It will work "out of the box" now. You won't have to find the third-party decoders or get a trial key. Once the trial expires, you can still ask for a trial key and it will work, so now you can use SA for up to a month. I have no idea what I was thinking, making it so hard to try SA at full potential.

Jere

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

I use the Percentile preselector at a setting of 60. That lets me use the same settings on every channel. Where I am, CBS causes massive problems with the Manual preselector. Either CBS works and everything else is screwy or everything else is fine and CBS never finds anything. Of course, that was the reason for coming up with the preselector in the first place.

Jere

Thanks. Looking forward to trying this setting instead.

[Deadbolt]

Originally Posted by geogecko

Thanks. Looking forward to trying this setting instead.

Is there a way to use different ShowAnalyzer setting for different SageTV favorites? I have different settings that are sweet for different shows...but trying to split the middle results in medeocre results. An option to do it by channel (with SageTV Webserver help) could also be very nice.

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by Deadbolt

Is there a way to use different ShowAnalyzer setting for different SageTV favorites? I have different settings that are sweet for different shows...but trying to split the middle results in medeocre results. An option to do it by channel (with SageTV Webserver help) could also be very nice.

LOL, that's what the webserver option is for!

Then check out AutoSettings and create a profile for the channels you want.

[Deadbolt]

Originally Posted by geogecko

LOL, that's what the webserver option is for!

Then check out AutoSettings and create a profile for the channels you want.

Does this allow PER FAVORITE settings (show titles) or only per channel? Per show is really what counts for me.

[blade]

Originally Posted by Deadbolt

Does this allow PER FAVORITE settings (show titles) or only per channel? Per show is really what counts for me.

Yes, it allows for per favorite.

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by Deadbolt

Does this allow PER FAVORITE settings (show titles) or only per channel? Per show is really what counts for me.

Sorry, should have read, "channels/favorites."

[Deadbolt]

Originally Posted by geogecko

Sorry, should have read, "channels/favorites."

Great! Thanks!

[Kirby]

Is the only way for a Sage client to access the .edl files and make use of them via UNC recording directories? I have 2 sources (2 R5000's) that wont work with UNC recording directories. I could use UNC paths, but then I can never watch live/time shifted R5000 recordings. What if I do one of:

1) Map my 2 recording drives to identical drive letters on the client?
2) Any way to force the client into thinking it has UNC paths, while server runs non-UNC paths?
3) Or I could push my QAM and OTA recordings to a UNC path and only SA those shows, and keep R5000 recordings to non-UNC path, and not process with SA.

What if I processed the R5000 files, and eventually moved both the mpg and edl to an UNC import directory? Will the clients then accept the edl info and make use of it?

[Kirby]

Guess I will reply to myself.

One of my recording drives was already setup as a UNC path, so I created some of the edl files for a few shows on that drive, and on the sage server's GUI, I have nice working commercial blocks. But absolutely nothing on the client. If I move the show and its edl file to a UNC import directory, then the client picks up the commercial segments.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by Kirby

One of my recording drives was already setup as a UNC path, so I created some of the edl files for a few shows on that drive, and on the sage server's GUI, I have nice working commercial blocks. But absolutely nothing on the client. If I move the show and its edl file to a UNC import directory, then the client picks up the commercial segments.

If the recording was already in that location before it became a UNC path recording dir, then the recording's path may not be in UNC format. Check the recording's Recording Detailed screen for its full path. Or, your client may not have permission to access a UNC path.

- Andy

[Opus4]

Based on a post about my comment in another thread, I thought I would add that you can rename the recording dir when making it a UNC path so that the old location isn't seen any more. Then, the recording will be found only in the new UNC path & its path will be updated in the database.

- Andy

[stanger89]

Jere,

I've got Dirmon2/SA 0.8.4 setup to scan shows as they're being recorded (vs waiting for them to finish). I'm having a problem where some (but not all) shows that are started while recording is in process, never finish. I've set the Live Detection Delay to 10s, and the Live Detection Hold Off to 10MB (which seems to have solved my problem with some detections ending prematurely).

So the problem is, SA starts a log, but never writes anything to it, and just sits at:
Current Time = 0
Current Frame = 0
Current FPS = 0
Average FPS = 0
Current Status = Scanning...

If I kill the process/stop SA, I can scan the finished file without issue.

Any ideas what I can do to either:
a) Fix it
b) Help debug it?

[geogecko]

You mean they never finish when the show finishes? The way SA operates on the files, is that it keeps processing the show until the show is finished recording, so it will almost look like it's hung up, because it's waiting on the show to be finished, before it finishes, if that makes since. It's scanning the show, then waiting, scanning, then waiting.

If you get those SA processes that never go away, even after the show is finished, and are using 0% CPU, then I've found that if you get SA setup to the way you want it, then stop the DM2 service (if that's what you are using) and use the uninstall button, then the install button, and start the service again. I've always found, that's it's always best to stop the service, and uninstall (button) when upgrading versions of SA, or changing settings. Usually this fixes the problems I've had with 0% CPU instances of SA.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by geogecko

You mean they never finish when the show finishes?

I mean it just sits there, indefinitely. I let it go 4 hours earlier today (on a 1-hour show), and I've probably had some running for days that I didn't notice.

he way SA operates on the files, is that it keeps processing the show until the show is finished recording, so it will almost look like it's hung up, because it's waiting on the show to be finished, before it finishes, if that makes since. It's scanning the show, then waiting, scanning, then waiting.

Yup, got that, and I don't expect SA to go away while a recoriding is happening, but I do expect it to do something after it's done. The proble I have is it will just sit there, 0 CPU, 0fps, 0 progress, indefinitely, until I kill the process.

And I can scan the finished file afterward, or if I kill the SA process Dirmon will start it again because it never wrote a file.

If you get those SA processes that never go away, even after the show is finished, and are using 0% CPU, then I've found that if you get SA setup to the way you want it, then stop the DM2 service (if that's what you are using) and use the uninstall button, then the install button, and start the service again. I've always found, that's it's always best to stop the service, and uninstall (button) when upgrading versions of SA, or changing settings. Usually this fixes the problems I've had with 0% CPU instances of SA.

I know I've stopped Dirmon, not sure I've tried uninstalling it. Here's a quesiton though, for your 0% SA processes, were they actually done (ie wrote a commercial/log file)? Because mine create a log file, but put nothing in it, and never get around to making any other files (txt/edl).