HDTV Network Encoder v0.9.0 07-08-05 - HD Support for Sage!

[Stealth1971]

Originally Posted by flashbacck

How long does it take you guys to tune to a channel? Either from the main menu or just changing channels. I think my system is slow, but I don't know if it's my system or if that's just the way it is.

With version 0.9.0 its seems to tune faster for me now... 5-6 seconds to change channels (the time from button press to video playing)

[Stealth1971]

Originally Posted by nallen

I've been getting the following error after pressing the start button in HDNE.

2005-07-14T14:43:13 Application Started - version 0.9.0
2005-07-14T14:43:17 Starting RecordWatch thread
2005-07-14T14:43:17 HDNE Capture Plugin unabled to create and initialize

I'm using a BDA-compliant VBox DTA 151 HD Card on XP Pro. Anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

My first guess is that its not finding HDNECapture.dll or IPlugin.dll. There is a debug.txt file that gets written to in the HDNE directory. If your forward it/post it we can debug it from there.

[nallen]

This is the debug file:

2005-07-15 08:59:55,734[3444] INFO Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator- AssemblyInfo:C:\HDNE\Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.dll
2005-07-15 08:59:55,750[3444] INFO Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator- ClassName:Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.InitialContext
2005-07-15 08:59:55,750[3444] INFO Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator- BootStrapInfo:C:\HDNE\ServiceLocator.xml
2005-07-15 08:59:55,750[3444] DEBUG Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator- Discovering Package:Properties
2005-07-15 08:59:55,781[3444] INFO Venturality.HDNE.Container- Application Started - version 0.9.0
2005-07-15 08:59:58,328[3444] INFO Venturality.HDNE.Server- HDNE Server: created - Version 0.9.0
2005-07-15 08:59:58,328[3444] DEBUG Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator- Discovering Package:HDNE.Server
2005-07-15 08:59:58,375[RecordWatch Thread] INFO Venturality.HDNE.Container- Starting RecordWatch thread
2005-07-15 08:59:58,468[TCP Listener Thread] DEBUG Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator- Discovering Component:HDNE.BDACapture
2005-07-15 08:59:58,500[TCP Listener Thread] ERROR Venturality.HDNE.Server- HDNE Server: Cannot create plugin
Exception: Frameworks.Exceptions.GenericException
Message: System.String: <Option already exists.>
Source: Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider
at Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.XmlBinding.BindSingleOption(IOptions options, XmlNode optionNode, Boolean optionOverride)
at Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.XmlBinding.BindOptions(IOptions options, XmlNode xmlNode)
at Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.XmlBinding.BindComponentContext(IComponentContext componentContext, String refType)
at Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.XmlBinding.BindComponentContext(IComponentContext componentContext)
at Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.DefaultProvider.InitialContext.GetComponentContext(String componentName)
at Frameworks.IOC.ServiceLocator.ServiceLocator.Discover(String componentName)
at Venturality.HDNE.Server.Start()

2005-07-15 08:59:58,546[TCP Listener Thread] INFO Venturality.HDNE.Container- HDNE Capture Plugin unabled to create and initialize
2005-07-15 09:00:02,953[3444] INFO Venturality.HDNE.Container- HDNE Server: Shutting down

[Stealth1971]

2005-07-15 08:59:58,500[TCP Listener Thread] ERROR Venturality.HDNE.Server- HDNE Server: Cannot create plugin
Exception: Frameworks.Exceptions.GenericException
Message: System.String: <Option already exists.>

This indicates that you have have a duplicate <Option> in your ServiceLocator.Xml file i.e 2 with the same name attribute :

<Option name="dup" Value="dupvalue"/>
<Option name="dup" Value="dupvalue"/>

[jblust]

I'm beginning to suspect that my video skipping issue is due to bad reception with my A180 card. Maybe it doesn't have as good of a tuner as my MyHD card (which has no problems with the same signal). Is there any way to figure out what signal strength the A180 card is receiving/reporting? Some channels work better than others, but none are perfect. I don't know if I should try to return it and get an ATI instead.

[Stealth1971]

One of my next enhancements was to add a signal strength indicator. From the what I have read, it shouldnt be that hard.

[sigma957]

Here is a new version of the DumpPS filter that hopefully solves most of the problems people are having with it selecting the wrong subchannel. It now queries the filter graph for the active "tune request" and uses the PIDs indicated by it. This method seems to be far more reliable than the methods previously used. Let me know if this works better for people. Thanks.

[flashbacck]

Thanks sigma,
This fixed my ABC 7-3 problem.

Stealth,

I came across an unusual bug. I was playing around with HDNE, switching between two channels (13 and 5). During the course of this, the channels became switched. In other words, I was on 13, and pressed 5, enter. The screen blinked and I was still showing the show on 13, but the program info was for channel 5. This is the HDNE output:

2005-07-16T17:23:30 Application Started - version 0.9.0
2005-07-16T17:23:31 Starting RecordWatch thread
Init():Created graph object
Building Graph
Loading BDA network driver.
Finished loading BDA network driver.
Loading BDA ATSC tuner request.
Tune request for physical channel:52, major channel: -1, minor channel: -1 
Finished BDA ATSC tuner request.
Loading BDA NETWORK tuner and capture device.
Finished loading BDA NETWORK tuner and capture device.
Loading Tee Filter
Loading Demux
Finished loading Demux
Connecting Demux to Tee
Connected demux to Tee
Loading TIF

Loading Dump Filter
Requesting DumpCLSID:
{808304FC-5B88-4C2C-857F-24864BAFE971}
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: c:\MediaStorage\Temp001.mpg
Couldn't SetFileName!!!
After File Sink
Graph Created
2005-07-16T17:23:32 HDNE Capture Plugin created and initialized
2005-07-16T17:23:32 HDNE Server: Listening on port - 6980
2005-07-16T17:24:01 Net Session Msg:VERSION
2005-07-16T17:24:15 Net Session Msg:START HDNE Network Encoder TV Tuner|7|2243119710328|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\EyewitnessNews430PM-6528708-0.mpg|DVD Standard Play
Tune():Tune request for phys:53,maj:7,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:53, major channel: 7, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\EyewitnessNews430PM-6528708-0.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:24:36 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 5|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-0.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:31,maj:5,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:31, major channel: 5, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-0.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:25:12 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 7|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\EyewitnessNews430PM-6528708-1.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:53,maj:7,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:53, major channel: 7, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\EyewitnessNews430PM-6528708-1.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:25:24 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 5|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-1.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:31,maj:5,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:31, major channel: 5, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-1.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:25:45 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 11|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ILoveLucy-LucyRaisesChickens-6529378-0.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:65,maj:11,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:65, major channel: 11, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ILoveLucy-LucyRaisesChickens-6529378-0.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:26:02 Net Session Msg:STOP
2005-07-16T17:26:12 Net Session Msg:START HDNE Network Encoder TV Tuner|5|2243119945766|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-2.mpg|DVD Standard Play
Tune():Tune request for phys:31,maj:5,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:31, major channel: 5, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-2.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:27:08 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 13|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\InherittheWind-6528981-0.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:66,maj:13,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:66, major channel: 13, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\InherittheWind-6528981-0.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:27:23 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 5|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-3.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:31,maj:5,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:31, major channel: 5, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-3.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:27:47 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 13|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\InherittheWind-6528981-1.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:66,maj:13,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:66, major channel: 13, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\InherittheWind-6528981-1.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:28:00 Net Session Msg:SWITCH 5|C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-4.mpg
Tune():Tune request for phys:31,maj:5,min:1
Tune request for physical channel:31, major channel: 5, minor channel: 1 
Before File Sink
Native code - target file: C:\Program Files\Frey Technologies\SageTV\Video\ExtremeMeasures-6529255-4.mpg
After File Sink
Graph Started
2005-07-16T17:28:19 Net Session Msg:STOP

[flashbacck]

hmm...
After installing sigma's new DumpPS, I seem to be having channel tuning issues. For instance I was on channel 7-1 and I press channeldown. It then takes me to 7-3. This seems to be related to the previously mentioned channel switching problem.

[jkoutrouba]

I've run into a problem that no one else has reported. I doubt that it's really an HDNE problem, but here goes:

I just got my A180 card installed and I set everything up with HDNE. When I try to watch something, I get a Sage error "sage.PlaybackException: ERROR (-3,0x80040207): There was a problem accessing the file system for playback." This is all running in the same machine, so there are no network issues that should cause problems.

I could not find this particular error anywhere on this forum (searched everything, not just this thread. Well, OK, one person mentioned something about it once, but it wasn't consistent in his case.) It seems to be recording the programs just fine -- I can see the file created in my sage directory, and I can open it and play it with another application. It looks great, so I know I'm close. I've tried reinstalling Sage and Java (J2SE RE 5.0 Update 4).

Since I can view the file with VLC, I don't know why Sage would have problems. Any ideas?


-JK

[jkoutrouba]

Originally Posted by jkoutrouba

Since I can view the file with VLC, I don't know why Sage would have problems. Any ideas?

Hmmm... I just tried to open a file that Sage/HDNE was writing with Media Player. It complained that the file was in use. I closed it through Sage, but that did not work. I had to stop the HDNE server in order to open it. I'm sure this must be relevant somehow...

-JK

[littlerm]

Same problem here, jkoutrouba.

[flashbacck]

jkoutrouba and littlerm,
You guys installed sigma's DumpPS, right?

[jkoutrouba]

Originally Posted by flashbacck

You guys installed sigma's DumpPS, right?

I had not installed it because I was not having trouble with tuning. But I just tried it and nothing changed.


-JK

[flashbacck]

Did you edit the servicexml to use the installed DumpPS?

Version 0.9.0 Info
- The output filter from the capture filter is now configurable via the ServiceLocator.XML file; just change the DumpCLSID option to the CLSID of the filter you want to use; look at the ServiceLocator.XML file in the zip file for an example of where and how to add that option.

[littlerm]

Yes I installed the DumpPS filter and edited the servicelocator.xml and it fixed the problem. But now I get jumpy playback on some channels although SD channels are fine. Beware of using the DumpPS filter if you also have MCE2005 installed, it will disable HDTV playback in MCE. Unregistering and deleting the files will not fix the problem, I had to do a system restore to the point before DumpPS was installed.

[jkoutrouba]

Originally Posted by littlerm

But now I get jumpy playback

I had not edited servicelocator.xml. Once I did that, it started working.

I had to switch to overlay mode, though, because I also had jumpy playback. Bummer. I guess my Radeon 9600 is not going to cut it.

-JK

[jblust]

Well, I had my A180 up and running pretty well before I fried it moving it into a different machine. Now, A180's are pretty scarce at my preferred online retailers and it's looking like I'll have to pay about $25 more than I paid originally.

So, since the cost of the A180 and the ATI HDTV Wonder are now closer (about $102 shipped vs. $139 shipped), I'm thinking about just springing for the ATI. I've read a lot of negative things on avsforum.com, but it seems like most of these problems are with the ATI bundled software. Is it fairly safe to go with the HDTV Wonder if I'm only going to be using HDNE? Stealth seems to have good luck with it...

[jkoutrouba]

Originally Posted by jblust

Is it fairly safe to go with the HDTV Wonder if I'm only going to be using HDNE? Stealth seems to have good luck with it...

You definately have the advantage of using the same hardware as the developer -- if it works for anyone it will work for you, at least from a software standpoint. But why even spend an extra $30 if the cheaper card works? And you know the A180 does because it was working for you. Get another A180 and use the extra cash for half a new hard drive to store all this great high-def programming that you're going to want to record.


-JK

[jblust]

Since this thread is getting a little quiet and I'm waiting for my A180 to come, I thought I'd throw in a feature request. I'm going to be running HDNE on my Sage server, which also happens to be my file server. Even though I'm properly firewalled from the Internet, I'd be a little more comfortable if HDNE wasn't opening up a network port to the world.

Would it be possible to add a config file option to only accept connections from localhost, or from a defined IP address that's listed in the config file?